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Thread: Stupid BHs

riotcontrol
Sun Jul 03, 2005 11:37 am
#27


Dosi wrote:
Simple solution. Move last ditch to the master box. Smuggler/BH is a terrible jedi killing temp, so nobody will want to master it just for that, it's too big a waste of skill points.




I hear Jedi/normal profession hybrid templates are quite overpowered in some ways. How about moving all Jedi powers, lightsaber, healing etc. abilities to their respective Master boxes?



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ShrekECPI
Sun Jul 03, 2005 11:38 am
#28



To Jedi and Bounty Huntersthat continue to bi0tch about our specials:


My TKM was ruined because OMG I could hurt you.

My Concussion Shot was ruined because OMG you wont use a rifle.

My Feign Death was ruined because you used it to elude Bounty Hunters.


Here is an idea that Smugglersmight or might notlike:


MOVE TO THE INSTANCED CRAP THAT CAME WITH ROTW AND STAY THERE!!!!!

Now all the BH's can sit at the starport and ambush you when you try to leave the planet.

It could be a like an AfricanNature Preserve. The Jedi can't leave for fear of getting poached and the BH's will have trouble getting to you.

Problem solved......


(fence) (fence)



---edit---

fixed the spelling of one wordand added morejeedaai to nature preserve

Message Edited by ShrekECPI on 07-03-2005 03:23 PM



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Gillik
Sun Jul 03, 2005 11:45 am
#29

No MRifle/MBH and MCM/MBH are good templates for bhs to have. Their hard for jedi to fight and kill. But the bhs dont get a one hit incap while being those templates.






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Ruarc - Elder Jedi
HOTDOG
Sun Jul 03, 2005 11:54 am
#30






Gillik wrote:
No MRifle/MBH and MCM/MBH are good templates for bhs to have. Their hard for jedi to fight and kill. But the bhs dont get a one hit incap while being those templates.






And you wouldn't with MS/MBH either if you:


Pay attention to people around you- especially if there is gun fire, dueling or any kind of combat going on.


Stay away from large populated areas as it makes it harder to do #1.


Make an serious, dedicated, hardcore effort to STAY OFF THE TERMS. This will make you invulnerable to BHs. Really!



If you cannot do 1-3 above- if its just beyond your capabilities and you get incapped by some BH who slappeds an ST right next to you and got lucky enough to land LD powerful enough to take you out without incapping himself.


REPORT HIM.









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Gillik
Sun Jul 03, 2005 12:56 pm
#31

Their going to get Last Ditch nerfed soon if this keeps up. Using Last Ditch as a one hit kill on jedi first off is just cheap as hell.

Second off their going to just abuse it until the Devs have no choice but to nerf it.


Yes I know that this is more of a bh topic then a smuggler topic. But its not like any of the bhs do that care that much about disgracing another proffession. They will only keep smuggler until it gets nerfed and then go onto the next I win template.






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Reznik - Smuggler
Ruarc - Elder Jedi
Rueger_Karde
Sun Jul 03, 2005 12:59 pm
#32

LD works like 1-3 times for me. Most times I dont get the kill. I'm not a PvPer right now (will be when Jedi arn't), but it seems to me you would be screwed with the auto incap LD produces if Jedi have incap recovery and get up before you do.


Like I said though, dont know for sure.





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Skysco
Sun Jul 03, 2005 1:42 pm
#33






Gillik wrote:
No MRifle/MBH and MCM/MBH are good templates for bhs to have. Their hard for jedi to fight and kill. But the bhs dont get a one hit incap while being those templates.






You don't listen do you? The chance of this attack resulting in a one hit incap is so dang low that:


A) A smart BH won't bother using it

B) It won' t get nerfed unless you keep whining and whining and whining becouse there might be a chance you get one hit incapped

Message Edited by Skysco on 07-03-2005 10:43 PM




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come to realize each other's importance in the world,
the value of their roles in the society, that sort of thing.
So I try to have interdependence as a key feature
- people relying on each other"
Raph Koster

Gillik
Sun Jul 03, 2005 2:36 pm
#34


So a 4k damage shot cant kill you? Yeah right.






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Reznik - Smuggler
Ruarc - Elder Jedi
HOTDOG
Sun Jul 03, 2005 2:54 pm
#35

UGH!


GIVE IT UP ALREADY-


Here is the deal behind last ditch.


It is SUPPOSED to incap or come damn close to incapping the target. "That's what it does. That's all it does!"- sorry I couldn't help that.


If it's guaranteed NOT to incap the target then it is USELESS. It might as well be ADV. Critical or Sniping Shot.


When a Smuggler is down to his last bone- Last Ditch is supposed to be his last chance (hence the name) at turning a fight around in his favor. Seeing as all of his HAM bars are down to 50 and below pts when he does it- incapping the target is the point.


This is why it comes with HUGE -accuracy mods- the whole incapping yourself thing- the necessity of having low Health to do it right- etc. etc.


Even if the devs were going to nerf LD- HOW WOULD THEY DO IT? It's the most unadvantageous shot there is.


Once a week- some dumbass Jedi gets hit with it 'cause he's just standing around swinging his glowstick with a macro as if he is just like any other player in game and BOOM- it sinks in-


He can't kill me!? I'm a Jedi! I didn't even get to fight back! I was just minding my business grinding and he killed me in one shot! I never had a chance! I'm a freakin' JEDI, man.


Then you come here looking for us to say- yeah, we are too powerful. Using a shot that makes you incap yourself 4 out of 5 times is waaaaaaaay overpowered.



Just stop already.



Suck it up and LEARN from the experience (whether it happened to you or not) pay attention to what is going on around you when you are playing your Jedi. Use the defenses at your disposal or expect to get killed.


IT'S THAT SIMPLE.








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Ekul05
Sun Jul 03, 2005 3:16 pm
#36


First of all...this is a troll and a whine, and while I dont believe in feeding trolls, this one is such a joke.



I'm a MBH/MS, and I love the combo. However, I'm not an idiot. Why do I say that ? Simple...only an IDIOT would lead with an attack that has a 33% chance of success to begin with. Who on earth would lead an attack with something that could incap them, and get them killed 2 out of 3 times they tried it ?



I wont argue that it could be successful. It certainly could. However if I was either a jedi, or someone aspiring to be one, I'd be more worried about some of the obvious class imbalances within jedi than this. If you complain about something that fails against you 2 out of 3 times, then you've got some issues. Why not take some time and make some educated, and intelligent posts in the Jedi forums, about fixing Jedi, rather than crying wolf over here.



Have a pie on your way out.....

Skysco
Sun Jul 03, 2005 3:17 pm
#37






Gillik wrote:


So a 4k damage shot cant kill you? Yeah right.





I didn't say it can't kill you... Of course it can... If and only IF it hits. But appearantly you are so convinced about the uberness of LD I won't waste anymore time this topic. You just stay affraid of any Smuggler you see.. It might just be a mean Bouty Hunter with the almighty Last Ditch....




"I have tried to design so people who wouldn't normally hang out together
come to realize each other's importance in the world,
the value of their roles in the society, that sort of thing.
So I try to have interdependence as a key feature
- people relying on each other"
Raph Koster

DarthAzure
Sun Jul 03, 2005 3:24 pm
#38



Gillik wrote:

No I posted this here cause BHs are abusing the hell out of this attack. Last Ditch is not supposed to be used as a first strike.

And also cause you all dont start yelling its not fair if they nerf Last Ditch. So you all know who to blame for it getting nerfed.

Message Edited by Gillik on 07-03-2005 10:39 AM





umm.. its not being used at a first striake.. that is impossible



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Ekul05
Sun Jul 03, 2005 3:35 pm
#39






Gillik wrote:


And also cause you all dont start yelling its not fair if they nerf Last Ditch. So you all know who to blame for it getting nerfed.



Message Edited by Gillik on 07-03-2005 10:39 AM





Yeah...typical, blame the Jedi for continued whining, crying, and feelings of disapointment when they dont get everything handed to them on a silver platter.....


Why blame anyone but them ?
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