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Thread: Do Smugglers have any control at all on if its a speed slice or DMG slice?

yimaz
Fri Jul 09, 2004 9:05 am
#27






UncleScrewtape wrote:






Smuggler_Caylin wrote:





KaernLegorah wrote:

Anybody that tells you they can reliably provide one type of slice over another, or that they can promise a high quality slice, is a flat-out, dirty, ruthless, immoral, F-ing liar (or just doesn't know anything about slicing).




I really wish I could post this as a subject title and sticky it. It would break the forum formatting though...





Before we start calling our fellow smugglers dirty, ruthless, immoral, F-ing liar's. We might just want to inform our more...experianced customers of the options they have


Any Smuggler that says they can "reliably provide one type of slice over another, or that they can promise a high quality slice" should be willing to guarentee there work. Say $250k if they fail.


I charge $150k per "guaerenteed" slice, but there are conditions. And the conditions exist becasue slicing is NOT "completely random" and you can increase your chances of deteriming the type of slice and even reasonably predict the %. I do miss because as best I can tell there is a randomness factor to the math, but in the end I make a VERY healthy profit.





OMG lets not start this again, Slicing is random, sorry it has been proven time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time again.




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SdeWndr
Fri Jul 09, 2004 9:09 am
#28

Someone please explain to me how you can guarantee your work as a slicer????? Or at least explain to me what math you use to "say" you can gurantee the work?


From what I have read over these forums and the DEV's posts (I haven't posted a lot, but I have read alot) this is impossible.



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Jandel-Har
Fri Jul 09, 2004 9:13 am
#29

Plus you justhave to have good slicing karma.



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Volksjaeger
Fri Jul 09, 2004 9:24 am
#30

S'all about the Karma.



And B.F.



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Delroh
Fri Jul 09, 2004 10:17 am
#31






MaddPlaya wrote:

All the guns were FWGs 1.9 speed 179 dmg. Getting a speed slice brings the speed to around1.5 for a 30% slice,and most the guns were 1.7 for speed sliced.


For the stupid ppl that said a speed slice is good. Thats a good gun for not being sliced if you get a speed slice it really does nothing to it bc its already really low. I can buy sucky FWGs for like 10k get a dmg slice, and its better than the 80k gun. You see the gun is worth alot bc it has better dmg then most without a slice you get a useless slice, and now the gun becomes avg bc a bad gun with a good slice would be the same.


The reason I bought alot of the FWGs is bc I should be guarnteed a couple decent dmg slices out of 14 of the same weapons being sliced.


Each of the Smugglers charged me like 50k to mess up every weapon. Now I didnt say anything mean to themI even thanked them,but I am still pissed off like 5 hrs latter. Go spend over a million credits on 14 weapons, and just hoping for a couple dmg slices which you probly have a 50% of getting on ever weapon, and then watch a smuggler slice them as you get 1/14 dmg sliced, and thats only a 20% dmg sliced, you would be ticked off to.







You are just proving more and more how dumb you really are. Hey ever think of selling those guns to a Nov Pistoleer since they need speed? Yea you may not get 80k back but you may get 60k fo rthem. And yes its possible since I have done it many times with slices people dont want.


Your guns are far from messed up but since you didnt get what YOU wanted you thought you woudl come on here Whine to us call us stupid for telling you the truth about something that some of us have been doing for over a year now........... F'ing Clown Shoes....


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ChiiTWINS
Fri Jul 09, 2004 10:34 am
#32

I thought about feeling bad for ya, Playa, but then I remembered that I'm a smuggler too.

In my humble opinion, anyone who actually bends over and lets someone charge 'em 80k for an FWG5 with THOSE stats -- doesn't deserve any pity. I don't care what your particular server's economy looks like, that's just ridiculous. Most I ever saw someone pay for an FWG5 was 45k, and that was aboslutely the best of it's type I have ever seen.


You want us to feel bad for you? Go buy a half-dozen scythes and get crap slices on them. Then we might at least pity you for blowing your cash on something that's supposed to be expensive.


And I HOPE you didn't mean you paid 50k PER SLICE.


Personally, the next baby who whines at me for getting the wrong slice and "messing up" their "awesome" (read: piece of crap) weapon is gonna get charged 5x more than usual and then get a swift kick in the rear.


Now if you'll excuse me, I've gone through about 15 VK's so far trying to get a damage slice for my alt. I've got another 5 waiting for me, and I expect 'em to all be speed. But I'm still working on it. Maybe I'll come complain about it later when they're all 13% speed or something. =P




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IndySWG
Fri Jul 09, 2004 10:37 am
#33






MaddPlaya wrote:

Go spend over a million credits on 14 weapons,



Dude you could have purchased MANY already-damage-sliced FWGs for that. If you are willing to pay that much money to get a damage sliced weapon...buy it already sliced...its the only way to ensure you get the slice you want.




MaddPlaya wrote:

The reason I bought alot of the FWGs is bc I should be guarnteed a couple decent dmg slices out of 14 of the same weapons being sliced.





..... what part of random don't people get?


(edited for type-o)

Message Edited by IndySWG on 07-09-2004 12:39 PM



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Izhozz
Fri Jul 09, 2004 10:44 am
#34

Hey MaddPlaya or whatever your "cool" name is...I bought a 2.0 speed/170 damage FWG5 for 5k when I grinded to smuggler (without buffs,mohahaha!) When I got Slicing 4,the first thing I sliced was that FWG5,and I GOT A25% D-A-M-A-G-E SliCe! Or was it 24%? Cant remember,anyway it has 214 damage now,and I payed 75k less for that one...Your fooled... You wrote MBH...? a Master BountyHunter that buys a FWG5 for 80k when its not even krayted? Sorry,but I dont really think that you are a MBH...For some reason...







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baslisks
Fri Jul 09, 2004 10:57 am
#35

Sure your a MBH. Give me a player name. I have a few expendable characters that I can delete to find people. I have found people that gaurantee slices and found them fakes. I'm a smuggler investigator.



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dorsai78664
Fri Jul 09, 2004 11:08 am
#36








MaddPlaya wrote:

All the guns were FWGs 1.9 speed 179 dmg. Getting a speed slice brings the speed to around1.5 for a 30% slice,and most the guns were 1.7 for speed sliced.


For the stupid ppl that said a speed slice is good. Thats a good gun for not being sliced if you get a speed slice it really does nothing to it bc its already really low. I can buy sucky FWGs for like 10k get a dmg slice, and its better than the 80k gun. You see the gun is worth alot bc it has better dmg then most without a slice you get a useless slice, and now the gun becomes avg bc a bad gun with a good slice would be the same.


The reason I bought alot of the FWGs is bc I should be guarnteed a couple decent dmg slices out of 14 of the same weapons being sliced.


Each of the Smugglers charged me like 50k to mess up every weapon. Now I didnt say anything mean to themI even thanked them,but I am still pissed off like 5 hrs latter. Go spend over a million credits on 14 weapons, and just hoping for a couple dmg slices which you probly have a 50% of getting on ever weapon, and then watch a smuggler slice them as you get 1/14 dmg sliced, and thats only a 20% dmg sliced, you would be ticked off to.





Sorry if this is repeating something already posted but I haven't gone through the entire thread yet.


I didn't see which profession you are but you may not realize that without SEAs, no one can fire pistol specials at the cap with a 1.5 weapon. A MBH (+80)with no other mods needs a 1.3 speed or better while a master pistoleer (+74)needs a 1.1 speed or better to be able to fire every pistol special at the cap. If your speed mod is above +85, yeah, you don't get as much out of it but if it is below +85, you are still more effective with that weapon now than you were before the slice. But regardless of your speed mod, the weapon was not ruined and is in fact better than before the slice.



But if you are going to be ticked off, you should be ticked off at the randomness of slicing in general and not at someone that has no control over the result.

Message Edited by dorsai78664 on 07-09-2004 01:12 PM




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baslisks
Fri Jul 09, 2004 11:08 am
#37

thanks for leaving your name in one of your posts Emaeka



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KJFett
Fri Jul 09, 2004 11:13 am
#38

80K for an FWG5? Bet that WS has you at the top of his friends list now!


I seldom see unsliced prenerf FWG5 1.4 spd 220max dmg go for 100K Most of them go for 50K-60K now.


I often buy ones with your stats for 6K off the bazzar.


Those smugglers felt just as bad as you did I'm sure, but there was nothing they could do. Those who say they can control the slices are never going to be believed untill they show proof. What they feel they have to gain by not doing so is beyond me (except that they can't and are just filling the forum with lies).


ExploitingSmuggler: Its so easy to get just the slice you want! BUT I'm not going to to tell cause I'm L33t!


CSR: *singing the "its so easy" song.* /ban ExploitingSmuggler



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Hotrodg
Fri Jul 09, 2004 11:31 am
#39






dorsai78664 wrote:





I didn't see which profession you are but you may not realize that without SEAs, no one can fire pistol specials at the cap with a 1.5 weapon. A MBH (+80)with no other mods needs a 1.3 speed or better while a master pistoleer (+74)needs a 1.1 speed or better to be able to fire every pistol special at the cap. If your speed mod is above +85, yeah, you don't get as much out of it but if it is below +85, you are still more effective with that weapon now than you were before the slice. But regardless of your speed mod, the weapon was not ruined and is in fact better than before the slice.



But if you are going to be ticked off, you should be ticked off at the randomness of slicing in general and not at someone that has no control over the result.

Message Edited by dorsai78664 on 07-09-2004 01:12 PM



You are right but the actual numbers needed to hit the cap are 1.0 for a pistoleer and 1.7 for the BH.




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