Smuggler Archive

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Blixtev wrote:

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maxtheusher wrote:
Yea, what about Commandos? They're going to be very unwanted.

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Does fixing new Proton Rifles help with being wanted in groups with Smugglers?

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Dunno, are they going to become a little more available? the Protone Carbine is a cakewalk to get, the Rifle...........eh, not quite so easy.

I'm aSmuggler/Commando ....heck even I don't want me in the group sometimes.

Message Edited by JaekeW on 06-23-2005 06:14 PM

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ThetaDaAriga wrote:

i guess iam too stupid to understand this. lets make it a yes or no question:

i use concussion shot and the mob gets hit after the daze + root effect sticked.

will the daze break and the root still stick? yes or no.

will both break? yes or no.

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You use concussion shot and the mob gets hit after the daze + root effect stuck. The Daze breaks, and the root still sticks.

Answer your question?

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ThetaDaAriga wrote:

i guess iam too stupid to understand this. lets make it a yes or no question:

i use concussion shot and the mob gets hit after the daze + root effect sticked.

will the daze break and the root still stick? yes or no.

will both break? yes or no.

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Ha ha ha.

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Blixtev wrote:

The ability to shut an opponent down so they cant heal, cant attack, while you back out and rest up, heal etc is very powerful. I am concerned about the duration of this ability and will watch to see if it is used for good, or for awesome.

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HAHAhahahahaha.. ok, you're definitely my favorite Dev.

-Zz

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Blixtev wrote:

I am concerned about the duration of this ability and will watch to see if it is used for good, or for awesome.

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Thanks for the info, Blixtev!

While you're in there screwing with Smuggler moves so they do what they are supposed to, where's the Knockdown that comes with Low Blow?

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HOTDOG wrote:

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ThetaDaAriga wrote:

i guess iam too stupid to understand this. lets make it a yes or no question:

i use concussion shot and the mob gets hit after the daze + root effect sticked.

will the daze break and the root still stick? yes or no.

will both break? yes or no.

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Ha ha ha.

will the daze break and the root still stick? yes or no.

will both break? yes or no.

The way I understand it now- this is how it is- however I would MUCH prefer the root stayed after the daze.

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BlixTev *just* posted in this thread:

"All roots do not break on damage, any effect with a Daze in it will break the entire effect on damage. Concussion shot is a shot to fully lock something down (Root + Daze). Panic shot is just a Daze, it has no movement modifier, you can move but not do anything."

See the part "All roots do not break on damage" ? That means that concussion shot, with its daze AND root, will have the daze portion break on damage, but *not* the root.

Also, he said that Panic Shot was a daze, which allows you to *move* but do no action. So Panic Shot will let people run around, they just can't do anything until it either wears off, or someone damages them.

With Concussion Shot, the target cannot move OR take any action, but if they are damaged, they'll be able to take action but still *not* move.

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MaxSteele wrote:

"All roots do not break on damage, any effect with a Daze in it will break the entire effect on damage. Concussion shot is a shot to fully lock something down (Root + Daze). Panic shot is just a Daze, it has no movement modifier, you can move but not do anything."

See the part "All roots do not break on damage" ? That means that concussion shot, with its daze AND root, will have the daze portion break on damage, but *not* the root.

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I'm pretty sure you misread him, Max. If any effect has a Daze element, then damage will break the entire effect. Ie, the Daze *and* the Root.

-Zz

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MaxSteele wrote:

BlixTev *just* posted in this thread:

"All roots do not break on damage, any effect with a Daze in it will break the entire effect on damage. Concussion shot is a shot to fully lock something down (Root + Daze). Panic shot is just a Daze, it has no movement modifier, you can move but not do anything."

See the part "All roots do not break on damage" ? That means that concussion shot, with its daze AND root, will have the daze portion break on damage, but *not* the root.

Also, he said that Panic Shot was a daze, which allows you to *move* but do no action. So Panic Shot will let people run around, they just can't do anything until it either wears off, or someone damages them.

With Concussion Shot, the target cannot move OR take any action, but if they are damaged, they'll be able to take action but still *not* move.

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now i got it hehe ... as a 5 year eq player there is a misunderstanding what a daze or mezz should do. a mezz like i used to know automatically roots the target in place. i never heard of a mezz that allows you to run around before so i assumed it would work like the mezz i knew. lets see how usefull panic shot is.

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Blixtev wrote:

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maxtheusher wrote:
Yea, what about Commandos? They're going to be very unwanted.

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Does fixing new Proton Rifles help with being wanted in groups with Smugglers?

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OMG Proton Rifle fix?? You would be my new hero! Just make sure it is non-AoE.

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Bzzzz wrote:

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MaxSteele wrote:

"All roots do not break on damage, any effect with a Daze in it will break the entire effect on damage. Concussion shot is a shot to fully lock something down (Root + Daze). Panic shot is just a Daze, it has no movement modifier, you can move but not do anything."

See the part "All roots do not break on damage" ? That means that concussion shot, with its daze AND root, will have the daze portion break on damage, but *not* the root.

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I'm pretty sure you misread him, Max. If any effect has a Daze element, then damage will break the entire effect. Ie, the Daze *and* the Root.

-Zz

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Wrong wrong wrong. He said right there: "All roots do not break on damage".

Concussion Shot has a daze AND a root. The root will *not* break on damage. The daze will. When he said "any effect with a Daze in it will break the entire effect on damage", the "effect" portion of that sentence is referring to the effects of Daze, not Root.

Repeat for emphasis, "All roots do not break on damage."

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ThetaDaAriga wrote:

i guess iam too stupid to understand this. lets make it a yes or no question:

i use concussion shot and the mob gets hit after the daze + root effect sticked.

will the daze break and the root still stick? yes or no.

will both break? yes or no.

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Will the daze break and the root still stick? yes or NO.

Will both break? yes or no.

They are not sperate effects, it is all tied up in the same effect, if one breaks you lose the entire effect.

Lead Designer
Star Wars Galaxies

EDIT - Oops! Blixstrongbad beat me to the punch. This wasn't supposed to sound like an "I told you so" message, I was just clarifying what I thought he'd said earlier.

-Zz

Message Edited by Bzzzz on 06-23-2005 07:10 PM