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Thread: Smuggler's role in JTL

Bzzzz
Wed Oct 13, 2004 10:37 am
#27





Diophantine wrote:








Kelko wrote:


All I can say is smuggler in JTL is keeping in line with the cuurnet state of the Smuggler profession in the ground game.




Everything the smugglers have wanted since launch without having to be a smuggler.







Actually, I interpret this more along the lines of "Privateer is to space what Smuggler is to ground. Not what Smuggler should be like, what Smuggler is like NOW."


I won't interject my own beta experiences here, I'm simply expressing how I interpreted what Kelko meant (so there's nothing to see here, NDA-Police ).




-Zz

Message Edited by Bzzzz on 10-13-2004 10:44 AM

Geevo
Wed Oct 13, 2004 12:18 pm
#28






Kelko wrote:





Geevo wrote:

Ok folks ... this may be a bit harsh, but here it goes. Your gaming experience is what you make of it.


That said, there is plenty of room for improvement and I agree things will get better as we progress through the combat and ultimately the Smuggler revamps. Find things you enjoy doing, explore ... and if you are like myself and several of my fellow Smugglers on Intrepid, we are working together to be prepared for both JtL and the Smuggler revamp.


Things we are doing:


- Planning


Upon release of JtL, we intend to take a step back from making money. We will focus our efforts working together to advance in our pilot professions.


Upon completion of Master Pilot, we will work together to get as much loot as possible and to build the best ships in the galaxy.


Upon completion of that, we will practice flying together as a squadron and focus on making money where we can until the Smuggler Revamp.


Upon the Smuggler Revamp, we will be in line to be the Smugglers that we should have been a long time ago.


Proper planning andproper execution will ensure success.




I agree with this to a point. However if someone gives you a pile of sh*t and a couple of rocks you sure as hell can't make a soufle (spl??) with these. So in reply to your comment, YesI believe in making the best of a situation, but I also believe that itdoes not mean you should just accept the situation as is.






To an extent we do accept the situation. We know that we are after JtL ... we know (about ... with no promises) when the Smuggler Revamp will be. So therefore you make the best of the situation. GM kicks butt, and I am confident in his ability to revitalize the profession. I like being a Smuggler, the negotiation ... the underworld characteristics (in theory) ... but we will have a lot of room to improve (can't really go down, can we?) ... So from now until revamp ... make the best, and do what you can to maximize the results of the revamp. Upon revamp then decide if this is really where you want to be. The other two options are either quit now ... or keep complaining which does not solve anything.


I say plan ahead ... think the best ... because I am doing what I want. Sometimes I stand around ... sometimes I slice. Heck, yesterday I gave a Smuggler $1,000,000 for the heck of it. (told him it was a loan...but I never expect to see it again). Last week I gave a noob $100k ... he was hunting alone and I remember how much it sucked. I enjoy making people happy.






Sapperlight wrote:

While I admire your optimism, Geevo, I don't share it. To be blunt, it sounds like you are going to grind pilot until the revamp comes. Sure, I'm oversimplifying, but it still involves more grinding than playing, which is not what I paid for.





I will grind pilot to an extent, but not to misery. I am actually looking forward to the veteran reward. I have already started buying things to decorate it. I want to go everywhere and explore. Sometimes it will be for missions, others it will be to just look around.


If you focus on the negative ... your experience will be negative.



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Hollow
Wed Oct 13, 2004 1:30 pm
#29






JTGAlpha wrote:

In my experience I can say that I have found the activities I would have to do to grind pilot FAR more enjoyable, fast, furious and fun than any other combat profession.







/agree


I think they are heading in the right direction with this in general. Maybe not smugglers specifically yet but they've sure laid the groundwrok for it.

Smuggler_Caylin
Wed Oct 13, 2004 2:02 pm
#30






Diophantine wrote:

Are any of you guys in JTL Beta? I think a few of the things happening there would make you quite angry. I know Smuggler_Caylin was PISSED!!!! Unless they changed that in the past week.




They haven't...



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Geevo
Wed Oct 13, 2004 2:31 pm
#31






Smuggler_Caylin wrote:





Diophantine wrote:

Are any of you guys in JTL Beta? I think a few of the things happening there would make you quite angry. I know Smuggler_Caylin was PISSED!!!! Unless they changed that in the past week.




They haven't...





/comfort



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Ace Pilot of the starship Errant Venture

Light Jedi Elder
Col. Geevo Deem, The most elder Smuggler on Intrepid
Founding Mayor: Veteran's Retreat on Lok
Smuggler_Caylin
Wed Oct 13, 2004 2:32 pm
#32

You know what frosts my cocoa though? It's the fact that I can't discuss JTL issues in the c-forum as we also hold ourselves to the NDA in there. So I can't do much in there...



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IndySWG
Wed Oct 13, 2004 2:36 pm
#33






Smuggler_Caylin wrote:

You know what frosts my cocoa though? It's the fact that I can't discuss JTL issues in the c-forum as we also hold ourselves to the NDA in there. So I can't do much in there...






arent all the correspondents in JTL?



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Smuggler_Caylin
Wed Oct 13, 2004 3:13 pm
#34

The former correspondents who are there may not have signed the NDA that applies to the JTL beta... yet they have access to the c-forum, so we are prevented from talking about it there for the most part.



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GrimRebuke
Wed Oct 13, 2004 3:22 pm
#35



Smuggler_Caylin wrote:
The former correspondents who are there may not have signed the NDA that applies to the JTL beta... yet they have access to the c-forum, so we are prevented from talking about it there for the most part.





Here's an answer: make all correspondents register for JTL Beta. why you wouldn't drop all your correspondents into every beta and test center project is beyond me.
Kelko
Thu Oct 14, 2004 3:23 pm
#36






Bzzzz wrote:





Diophantine wrote:








Kelko wrote:


All I can say is smuggler in JTL is keeping in line with the cuurnet state of the Smuggler profession in the ground game.




Everything the smugglers have wanted since launch without having to be a smuggler.







Actually, I interpret this more along the lines of "Privateer is to space what Smuggler is to ground. Not what Smuggler should be like, what Smuggler is like NOW."


I won't interject my own beta experiences here, I'm simply expressing how I interpreted what Kelko meant (so there's nothing to see here, NDA-Police ).




-Zz

Message Edited by Bzzzz on 10-13-2004 10:44 AM



/Bingo!




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Bzzzz
Thu Oct 14, 2004 3:58 pm
#37







Kelko wrote:

/Bingo!






I might go so far as tointerpret from your post that Privateer is to space what Smuggler was planetside AT RELEASE, although they might have improved a great deal in the last week or so. Again, I'm purely interpreting, so I don't know if that's true based on beta or not.


Ack!! The NDA-hounds! Run for your lives!!!



-Z

Message Edited by Bzzzz on 10-14-2004 04:00 PM

WesBelden
Thu Oct 14, 2004 9:02 pm
#38








Smuggler_Caylin wrote:






Diophantine wrote:

Are any of you guys in JTL Beta? I think a few of the things happening there would make you quite angry. I know Smuggler_Caylin was PISSED!!!! Unless they changed that in the past week.




They haven't...








Yarr, har har.. er, alcahol makes me a pirate, all I need now is for a cannon to blow myleg off and to find a random eye patch.. yehhhhhs.


Er, I've been out of the loop for a wee while, any chance of a link to a post detailing what you're pissed off about? I'm in the beta, so will be able to see it.. failure to comply will result in my going to bed, followed by waking up in 2 days time and searching for the thread myself... now there's a threat for you, mwaha!


They really need to have breathaliser tests built into either the forums, or IE, before people are allowed to post. Seriously.

Message Edited by WesBelden on 10-14-2004 09:03 PM



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maxtheusher
Wed Oct 20, 2004 7:00 am
#39

I kind of forgot I made this post. GEEVO has a good point about player-made content. That's what I do in the game, I create goals for myself. I went and got all the POI badges. Then I went after all the non-profession badges. as it stands, I only have a few corvettes left. I donated 8 lootkits to my guild. I got myself a de-10, I got blacksun hacks for several guildmembers, etc. It's definitely the best way to play the game as the game currently exists, building your character in ways beyond just having a great template, and helping others while making a name for yourself amongst them.

In fact, at the moment, I don't even care so much about the combat revamp/balance thing. But it would be nice to have smuggler content upon launch of JTL. Why? because If I am a Master Pilot by then (which I'm sure I will be) then I'll have missed out on the lower level stuff.



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