Smuggler Archive
Thread: Wes..we need some damage control ASAP
Nezodon
Sun May 15, 2005 11:39 am
#27
cpz wrote:
Any change to LastDitch as a reaction to the Jedi complaints will show just how rotten a core this game has, because it will prove that the Developers do not know their own product, and that they value the Jedi above all.
We are Smugglers, we've been testing CU LD since Day One. We know our skill, and we know it's success rate. We know how damaging it is, we know the risks. We use it every day.We know this part of the game, because it is ours.
And for the Jedi to lie and exaggerate the effectiveness of LD, simply because it can [note 'can', not 'will' ] turn a fight on its head and leave them defeated absolutely sickens me.
So if SOE choose to cater tothe Jedi lies and mistruths, over our knowledge and experience, then I seriouslysuggest we, all of us, pack our bags and leave, because if that's the way this game is going to be run, the future is very, very bleak.
Just logged out of Ahazi and massive, believe me folks i mean massive, jedi battles errupting all over theed it seems looking round more jedi than any other profession right now unfortunatly this means that the devs will do what it takes to make the jedi community happy at the expense of the "normal" professions.
Jedi are a hugh problem and have been since they were implemented continualy tweaking, balancing and sorting out which has been to the neglect of other professions and im sad to say i think this will contiue, if your not jedi you working towards jedi and if your not working towards jedi get used to being left out in the cold.
Ternque01
Sun May 15, 2005 11:50 am
#28
Nezodon wrote:
cpz wrote:
Any change to LastDitch as a reaction to the Jedi complaints will show just how rotten a core this game has, because it will prove that the Developers do not know their own product, and that they value the Jedi above all.
We are Smugglers, we've been testing CU LD since Day One. We know our skill, and we know it's success rate. We know how damaging it is, we know the risks. We use it every day.We know this part of the game, because it is ours.
And for the Jedi to lie and exaggerate the effectiveness of LD, simply because it can [note 'can', not 'will' ] turn a fight on its head and leave them defeated absolutely sickens me.
So if SOE choose to cater tothe Jedi lies and mistruths, over our knowledge and experience, then I seriouslysuggest we, all of us, pack our bags and leave, because if that's the way this game is going to be run, the future is very, very bleak.
Just logged out of Ahazi and massive, believe me folks i mean massive, jedi battles errupting all over theed it seems looking round more jedi than any other profession right now unfortunatly this means that the devs will do what it takes to make the jedi community happy at the expense of the "normal" professions.
Jedi are a hugh problem and have been since they were implemented continualy tweaking, balancing and sorting out which has been to the neglect of other professions and im sad to say i think this will contiue, if your not jedi you working towards jedi and if your not working towards jedi get used to being left out in the cold.
I'm not one to promote pessimism, but I amost left this game for good after watching the GCW on Bria turn into constant Jedi battles. Jedi need to be removed from the GCW, for this game IS NOW Jedi Wars Galaxies.
xTekx
Sun May 15, 2005 1:01 pm
#29
I don't know what I'll do... I know i'll be ticked off royally and probably won't even bring myself to play the game for a while, but I do love this game. I'm just sick of the politics that occur with the devs and jedi. Jedi want means jedi get.
I do know that I will be hunting down jedi whenever I can now. Any Smuggler/BH's on Bloodfin want to team up with me, give me a call.
gassygunslinger
Sun May 15, 2005 2:04 pm
#30
You know what I think? I think they should change LD... They should make it, so that if you'rea master smuggler (non-respec'd) and you use it on a jedi, it will instantly kill them... No damage modifiers, nothing, just instant kill... And you can use it while incaped also... Then, a message should pop up on thier screen saying: "You screwed us over by nerfing Feign Death, so this is payback... B%tches..."
WillburWright
Sun May 15, 2005 3:10 pm
#31
gassygunslinger wrote:
You know what I think? I think they should change LD... They should make it, so that if you'rea master smuggler (non-respec'd) and you use it on a jedi, it will instantly kill them... No damage modifiers, nothing, just instant kill... And you can use it while incaped also... Then, a message should pop up on thier screen saying: "You screwed us over by nerfing Feign Death, so this is payback... B%tches..."
/hurrah
Bring it on. They're fighting a battle they can't win.
Orcajum
Sun May 15, 2005 3:17 pm
#32
The thing is, there's more Jedi now than just about any one profession. There's definately more of them than there are of us.
What we need, more than presenting the evidence we have to counter Jedi-powergamer lies (there are respectable Jedi who play the profession as it should be), more thanhow many Jedi can be killed, more than even protecting LD or FD from future nerfs, is a united front.
It's time Smugglers and Bounty Hunters, Weaponsmiths and Creature Handlers,Carbineers and Pikemen, every otherprofessional forum in this game makes it abundantly clear to thedevs that any Jedi-induced nerf uponone profession will be seen as a Jedi-induced nerf on every profession. Because while thesubscriptions of all theJedi players are significant, the subscriptions of everyone else is even more significant toSOEs bottom line.
There's got to be more players out there interested in keeping this game Star Warsy and fun for every profession, than there are Jedi just out to be uber. Time to start building up that political clout we deserve with the other professions and cashing it i to bring this game back to how it should always have been.
Pday
Sun May 15, 2005 7:33 pm
#34
Here's the thing, im a jedi. Wheni saw the whine threads, i contacted a smuggler and had the person last ditch me a bunch of times with low health, and most of the time the smuggler got the incap not me. and even if there is incap recovery food.
daywynd
Sun May 15, 2005 10:37 pm
#35
Its pretty tough to actually get LD to work... itsrisky too. I rather like it that way. Other players may feel a bit tense when fighting a smuggler, wondering if the shady char might actually pullit off. I like it that way too. The not knowing.
Because eventually smugglers are going to have to face a battle-hardened, jedi-killing bounty hunter and we need a few tricks up our sleeve. ... I hope thats whats going to happen. 
I'm looking forward to a life on the run.
Taln2
Sun May 15, 2005 11:15 pm
#36
Orcajum wrote:
The thing is, there's more Jedi now than just about any one profession. There's definately more of them than there are of us.
What we need, more than presenting the evidence we have to counter Jedi-powergamer lies (there are respectable Jedi who play the profession as it should be), more thanhow many Jedi can be killed, more than even protecting LD or FD from future nerfs, is a united front.
It's time Smugglers and Bounty Hunters, Weaponsmiths and Creature Handlers,Carbineers and Pikemen, every otherprofessional forum in this game makes it abundantly clear to thedevs that any Jedi-induced nerf uponone profession will be seen as a Jedi-induced nerf on every profession. Because while thesubscriptions of all theJedi players are significant, the subscriptions of everyone else is even more significant toSOEs bottom line.
There's got to be more players out there interested in keeping this game Star Warsy and fun for every profession, than there are Jedi just out to be uber. Time to start building up that political clout we deserve with the other professions and cashing it i to bring this game back to how it should always have been.
I don't do this very often: QFE.
I, too, will be extremely pissed off if any non-Jedi profession receives a nerf due to Jedi whining.
Tante
Mon May 16, 2005 4:21 am
#37
It's time Smugglers and Bounty Hunters, Weaponsmiths and Creature Handlers, Carbineers and Pikemen, every other professional forum in this game makes it abundantly clear to the devs that any Jedi-induced nerf upon one profession will be seen as a Jedi-induced nerf on every profession. Because while the subscriptions of all the Jedi players are significant, the subscriptions of everyone else is even more significant to SOEs bottom line.
(Orcajum in the Smuggler forums)
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This is gonna be added to my sig I guess.
(Orcajum in the Smuggler forums)
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This is gonna be added to my sig I guess.
Woe_icoby
Mon May 16, 2005 5:23 am
#38
Orcajum wrote:The thing is, there's more Jedi now than just about any one profession. There's definately more of them than there are of us.What we need, more than presenting the evidence we have to counter Jedi-powergamer lies (there are respectable Jedi who play the profession as it should be), more than how many Jedi can be killed, more than even protecting LD or FD from future nerfs, is a united front.It's time Smugglers and Bounty Hunters, Weaponsmiths and Creature Handlers, Carbineers and Pikemen, every other professional forum in this game makes it abundantly clear to the devs that any Jedi-induced nerf upon one profession will be seen as a Jedi-induced nerf on every profession. Because while the subscriptions of all the Jedi players are significant, the subscriptions of everyone else is even more significant to SOEs bottom line.There's got to be more players out there interested in keeping this game Star Warsy and fun for every profession, than there are Jedi just out to be uber. Time to start building up that political clout we deserve with the other professions and cashing it i to bring this game back to how it should always have been.
/salute
JTGAlpha
Mon May 16, 2005 1:31 pm
#39
Easy kids. Let's stay constructive and on task. Wes is gonna check it out. We're starting to get shrill. Let Wes give us some bad news before we boil tar and pluck chickens.