Smuggler Archive
Thread: Wes..we need some damage control ASAP
my point wasn't to tell them to remove the heal really either, just that blind calls for nerfs are silly and can go in all directions. personally I think docs should get more of a bump on the heal per sec side... yah you can sting some heals together, but its spaced out small-ish and slow... that and with the screwy hate system it pulls more aggro then even that much healing is worth.
GanymedePharuu wrote:
help us Wes! you're our only hope...
well that and exacting the Revenge of the Smuggler!
(that's the alternate Episode III, where, rather than Anakin killing all the Jedi,Han Solo teams up with Boba Fett and they go on a Jedi killing rampage)
Woot, Han and Boba would kick some major butt if they worked together!
)and hopefully we'll get a favourable response. I'll mention the concern shown that they may pander to the masses (namely the Jedi community) and I'll also reitterate the feeling that we're sub par ability wise.Wes,
If they change Last Ditch in ANY WAY to cater to these few Jedi that are complaining about it- Then they seriously need to answer some questions why they would do so.
Last Ditch has changed from the heavy damage spam-a-lot shot that it was into what it is supposed to be: A last ditch effort to come away from the fight. As I said in another post:
"THINK ABOUT THIS PLEASE....
You are losing a fight, badly. You use last ditch. By doing so you incap yourself but your enemy sustains 1500 pts. of damage?
DOES THIS MAKE ANY SENSE TO YOU?
Last Ditch is SUPPOSED to incap your opponent (or come damn close to it)."
Why would you change it so that its just a heavy damage shot again when it works EXACTLY as it's described?
This is not a "gamebreaking" situation either, as there are people (Jedi and Smugglers included) that have posted ways to prevent your opponent from getting off a Last Ditch Shot. Are the Devs going to cater to people who refuse to use tactics when using tactics is what the CU is all about?
In that earlier mentioned post I also wrote:
"I gamble by using LD:
IF I am time it right. (too early and I do next to no damage and lose all my HAM, too late and I am incapped)
IF I am able to hit you. (modifiers against it hitting- plus all my opponents defenses)
IF I am lucky enough to do enough damage to incap you. (you could have buffs- healing- food defenses-Creams allow for short incaps for 22m)
IF I am lucky enough not to get incapped (10% chance).
THEN- I get to go DB YOU instead of you DBing me.
and you want to nerf this? HOW!!?"
So tell me exactly HOW they want to nerf this ability. You might as well get rid of it.
Why would they even move it? It's still obtainable by BHs no matter where it is on our tree AND I find it hard to believe they would even consider raising the prereq's for BH when the CU was about making combat profs equal.
What kills me the most is: when the Jedi figured out Master Defender was the end all- and started respec'ing to it in droves the rest of the playerbase that has to deal with Jedi in PvP didn't say a thing. We all started working on strategies in order to combat the MDefenders.
WE GAVE THEM STRATEGIES TO AVOID GETTING LAST DITCHED!
We told them to keep us KD'd.
We told them to use incap reducing foods.
We told them to use their abilities to Cloak, Avoid Incap, Force Run.
We told them to simply leave the fight as they would have to be winning for us to even use Last Ditch effectively.
and what did they say? "We prefer not to. Enjoy the nerf"
Honestly, if they do anything to Last Ditch in order to pander to these few Jedi, I'll know exactly which side of the toast is buttered and I will NOT sit idly by and pay to play this game to get treated as such. Something will be done-
have the devs go to a closed TC server, set up a few Master smugglers, and a few jedi k-nights... have them watch the duels... have them do it "naked" (standard armor vs jedi powers), throw a few LDs, then do it like it would happen on a live server, both parties full to the gills on food, and PSGs and what not.. let them see how last ditch is just that.. an all or nothing shot. see how many times a jedi, that uses their skills effectively, can dodge,blow off, or even dare i say it.. Run?!? away from the fight...
and see how many times the smuggler gets up from LD incapping himself.