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Thread: Tell them what you want!

QuantumArtist
Sat Aug 27, 2005 10:59 pm
#27






SmugglinZane wrote:


HOLY SH!T WHAT THE F_CK ARE THESE F_CKING FORUMS FOR?!?!?!?!?!






Q to the F to the E dude!


We tried to emphasise this to SOE when GameReformer first came up. Think about it! Why are they paying for some 3rd party market research firm to ask utterly meaningless and inconclusive questions when they can hold some forums and polls right here?


Think about it! When was the last time you saw a poll here on the forums?


I'd sooner have them save the research money and pay more developers, or a few more moderators to do in-forum researching. It would be cheaper and allow them to put resources into fixing our beloved game.



QuantumArtist
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Current Player feedback activist

Awww hell! I give up!
SmugglinZane
Sun Aug 28, 2005 12:29 am
#28


HOLY SH!T WHAT THE F_CK ARE THESE F_CKING FORUMS FOR?!?!?!?!?!


Apparently SOE/LA is convinced that only people in California play this f_cking game since they only seem to be able to pull off sh!t over there. Time for yet again another stunt by them....


I've got one question though... WHEN THE HELL HAVE THEY EVER LISTENED ANYWAY?!?!?!


They've done exit polls. They've done "Top 10's" from profession correspondents. WHY THE F_CK DO THEY NEED NIELSON TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE PLAYERS OF THIS GAME HAVE BEEN TELLING THEM FOR 2 F_CKING YEARS NOW?!?!?!?!


NOT ONLY THAT, BUT ANY POLL THEY DO WILL BE SIGNIFICANTLY BIASED SINCE IT'S LOCALISED AND REQUIRES PEOPLE TO GO TO THEM!!!!!


WHY THE F_CK ARE THEY PAYING PEOPLE $100 TO TELL THEM SOMETHING THEY GET FOR FREE HERE?!?!?! WOULDN'T THAT MONEY BE BETTER SPENT ON FIXING BRIA OR PAYING SOME OVERTIME SO THEY CAN FIX THE PROFESSIONS IN GAME INSTEAD OF FOCUSING ON THE "NEXT" EXPANSION?!?!?!



PS- Sorry for the caps, but they just take their idiocy one step further everyday it seems.




"Jedi claims of being "broken" are like saying "But my TV isn't widescreen! It's broken! My TV can't show high-def pictures in 1080i, it can only do 720i! It's broken!" Meanwhile, crafters are saying "We'd really like to have a TV that's larger than 12" and gets more than 4 channels and doesn't constantly lose vertical control", and entertainers are saying "Can we get some color instead of this B&W piece of junk?" And smugglers? We're listening to radio programs of "The Shadow" and "The Abbot and Costello Comedy Hour" and hearing FDR's Fireside Chats. We don't even HAVE a damn TV, much less a broken one or a "broken" one by Jedi standards. I'd LOVE to be as "broken" as they are." - The Legendary Solo4114
EEMAN
Sun Aug 28, 2005 6:24 am
#29



Lonelan wrote:

Hah, ignorance!

Bay Area is Northern California. Anything above Six Flags we consider north. I'm bottom of the barrel, San Diego, I should know. And if I didn't have school that day and it wasn't a 8-10 hour drive, I would so be there.

Edit: I get 100 bucks AND get to flame the people to their faces? The 100'll pay for gas, the second part will pay for my time.

Message Edited by Lonelan on 08-26-2005 05:06 PM



Wait .. going from san diego to LAX via SouthWest airlines is fast and possibly cheaper than driving lol. You could fly up there and give them the address of a hotel hehe.



Omosack
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EEMAN
Sun Aug 28, 2005 6:28 am
#30



Votiva wrote:
I hate, hate, Hate, HATE driving in the south bay. But maybe I'll drive down there and see what's up.

Stupid San Jose and not having BART /shakefist


But 'Do you know the way to San Jose?' .... sorry had to get that song stuck in your head there.



Omosack
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Better Homes and Guns - in the Chilastra Galaxy

- It's time the devs end the bitter fighting by giving the community a Non Jedi server. We have a few servers with TINY populations that could be changed to this ruleset. I support this idea because it punishes noone. - You can support it too. Click Here!
EEMAN
Sun Aug 28, 2005 6:30 am
#31



SmugglinZane wrote:

HOLY SH!T WHAT THE F_CK ARE THESE F_CKING FORUMS FOR?!?!?!?!?!






UO made the same mistake over and over... hiring people to figure out what will increase their market when its pretty obvious looking at the forums. The problem is, in the past, they used the forum and got burned. At that time the forum represented only 1 type of player cross-section. I dont believe this to be the case anymore.



Omosack
Master Weaponsmith
Master Shipwright
Better Homes and Guns - in the Chilastra Galaxy

- It's time the devs end the bitter fighting by giving the community a Non Jedi server. We have a few servers with TINY populations that could be changed to this ruleset. I support this idea because it punishes noone. - You can support it too. Click Here!
Tichal
Sun Aug 28, 2005 6:48 am
#32

all smugglers should get 50 million at master,for being left out in the dark so long



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HOTDOG
Sun Aug 28, 2005 11:29 am
#33

Um, Actually guys- this COULD be serious.


As a TV professional I can tell you that execs ears stay open once they hear the name "Nielsen" and they put big money behind whatever Nielsen tells them to do.


If the Nielsen research done onthe 31st comes back and says:


Jedi are ruinning the GCW.


We need a GCW that matters.


Smugglers need tosmuggle.



Then you can bet your ass someone is going to do something about those things.



HOWEVER


If a bunch of Jedi go and complain about how they never get any attention- then they will change their focus (yeah, that's a joke) and only do stuff for Jedi.


So it IS important and hopefully we will get some representation.



As far as the other stuff goes:


YES. They could read these forums and get, at the very least, afeel of what the major problemsin SWG are- but execs DO NOT LISTEN to people who spend their time typing rants ina forum.


It's not focused enough for them and that would involve reading which is another exec disinterest.


Supposedly, Tiggs and TH types are the ones that should be supplying execs with what we are feeling as it's being filtered through the Corros- but as far as I can tell, Corros have been severely muffled and Tiggs and TH have become pacifiers to ease the crying as LA uses SWG to promote it's latest releases.


One thing is for certain- SWG is in trouble. You do NOTpayNielsen to find out what yourcustomer base wants if your game is doing okay. Perhaps this was brought on by the many voices upset bythe announcement of TOW-Or perhaps there has been a steadily growing cancelation rate- who knows. Just hope that the people that DO go to this thing actually have the game's interest overall at heart and not just one profession's well being.









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megacrafter
Sun Aug 28, 2005 12:43 pm
#34

i would love to go ( exect i have to sepend 2 days on a plane lol ) but if i went i'd tell them how lazy SOE is and to hurry up and give us smuglers some god damed content



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QuantumArtist
Sun Aug 28, 2005 12:56 pm
#35







megacrafter wrote:
i would love to go ( exect i have to sepend 2 days on a plane lol ) but if i went i'd tell them how lazy SOE is and to hurry up and give us smuglers some god damed content






SOE has Jedi Goggles. Its like a case of beer goggles, where the ugly Jedi problem always looks so much better with the next great expansion.

Message Edited by QuantumArtist on 08-28-2005 12:56 AM



QuantumArtist
Penetant former Exploit/strategy writer
Owner of the now closed GameReformer.Com (don't make us come back!)
Current Player feedback activist

Awww hell! I give up!
Zeon_Zaku
Sun Aug 28, 2005 1:27 pm
#36

If I had the money to fly from Portland, OR to Santa Clara, CA and tell them what I thought about Smugglers and such, I would.
Okay, I actually wouldn't... but that sounded pretty noble, didn't it?



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Chemistrius
Sun Aug 28, 2005 4:25 pm
#37

Preach on brother Zane



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Zotux
Sun Aug 28, 2005 5:47 pm
#38

If you're gonna go, don't borther if you are female.


I wish I had the link, but there is a post, possibly in the comunity relations and website forum, about a female player from the bay area trying to register, she was told that they are not taking females for this?!?!?!?!?







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EEMAN
Sun Aug 28, 2005 6:04 pm
#39



Zotux wrote:

If you're gonna go, don't borther if you are female.

I wish I had the link, but there is a post, possibly in the comunity relations and website forum, about a female player from the bay area trying to register, she was told that they are not taking females for this?!?!?!?!?




perhaps because they already had enough percentage? I was at a theatre one night and neilson group came up and wanted opinions on some stuff but wouldnt talk to me.. they only wanted to survey my wife. They said they already had enough men on their list.

So if women comprise 5% of the gaming population and they are going to survey 1500 people.. its possible that they will only question 75 females?



Omosack
Master Weaponsmith
Master Shipwright
Better Homes and Guns - in the Chilastra Galaxy

- It's time the devs end the bitter fighting by giving the community a Non Jedi server. We have a few servers with TINY populations that could be changed to this ruleset. I support this idea because it punishes noone. - You can support it too. Click Here!
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