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Thread: Smuggler Request to the Devs to clarify the changes on Feign Death. What does it mean to us?

Cdapolito
Sat Feb 19, 2005 6:06 am
#261

To my poor Smuggler Cousins:


I just logged of TC-Gorath... and I can tell you that as of 7am CST 19FEB2005 you can be incapped and killed while using Feign Death (this from personal experience). I feel your pain... really I do (read my sig).




Itolia Rapo
Master Tailor, Roleplayer, and HELPER
(I'm just a glutton for punishment)


Galaxy City, Dantooine
Undergrid
Sat Feb 19, 2005 7:01 am
#262



Sengis wrote:
/clap Well done jedi and stinking bh for ruining a perfectly good smuggler skill. My hatred fro those two proffessions grows further.
Oh and by the way devs. You have once again kicked the smuggler proffession in the knackers with your pandering to the leet kiddies and griefer teengeeks who play jedis and bh.

Message Edited by Sengis on 02-19-2005 11:41 AM





That about sums it up for me too.. Well said.





Undergrid (Chimaera)
Master Smuggler / Master Pistoleer / Teras Kasi Master / Master Pilot / Rebel Colonel

Undergrid
Sat Feb 19, 2005 7:09 am
#263


Eulbobo wrote:
i don't know what to think

Are the devs just listening to whiners to change the game?

Whine a lot, get it nerfed?




Thats how its always been, whine and get what you want. Jedi whine and they get 2 revamps (after we'd been promised ours I might add), chefs whine about useless food (with reason) and they get a revamp, wookies whine about their lack of armor (again with reason) and they get armor, everyone moans about CH's and their profession gets nuked into oblivion. I could go on, but frankly its too depressing.

Smugglers take things with good will and maturity, we make suggestions, give feedback, ask questions and come up with good ideas and be positive.... Then the devs totally ignore us and go about our profession with a baseball bat.

If we want the devs to listen to use, we have to make a stink about it, as big a stink and the Jedi do when things don't go their way, as big a stink as the wookie sit in, otherwise the devs will continue to abuse our profession





Undergrid (Chimaera)
Master Smuggler / Master Pistoleer / Teras Kasi Master / Master Pilot / Rebel Colonel

Sengis
Sat Feb 19, 2005 7:13 am
#264






Undergrid wrote:




Eulbobo wrote:
i don't know what to think

Are the devs just listening to whiners to change the game?

Whine a lot, get it nerfed?






Thats how its always been, whine and get what you want. Jedi whine and they get 2 revamps (after we'd been promised ours I might add), chefs whine about useless food (with reason) and they get a revamp, wookies whine about their lack of armor (again with reason) and they get armor, everyone moans about CH's and their profession gets nuked into oblivion. I could go on, but frankly its too depressing.

Smugglers take things with good will and maturity, we make suggestions, give feedback, ask questions and come up with good ideas and be positive.... Then the devs totally ignore us and go about our profession with a baseball bat.

If we want the devs to listen to use, we have to make a stink about it, as big a stink and the Jedi do when things don't go their way, as big a stink as the wookie sit in, otherwise the devs will continue to abuse our profession





QFE i sarted saying this 6 months ago and got one starred to the ras by PoliteSmuggler Community. NOW maybe soem folks will realise that bending over only eases entry and standing up makes it harder.



ex Colonel Sengis Ghean NVA
Founder, Arroyo, Dantooine and NVA - I²D²
Master Smuggler since 01/04 | | Spice for sale PST
"When Sony and Lucas set out, we said, How can we do this and not make another EQ? We didn't want it to be all about Luke, or combat, or lock our players into a class. So we created a system that would allow players to switch professions during the game, and there would be a lot of gameplay around making that change. If you want to go from architect to scout we've created a system to make that happen."
Julio Torres
Bridgebuilder
Sat Feb 19, 2005 7:29 am
#265

Tiggs stop going around in circles trying to say what you really mean.



Feign dead is REMOVED from pvp, thats all there is to it.


Once again pvp take the front seat and put pve in the back. Smuggler didnt need this. im curious is this a prefix from the devs before they add smuggler to the Bounty hunter terminals? they been demanding that just about as long as they demanded FD to be removed from their pvp games.
Ragnaat
Sat Feb 19, 2005 7:31 am
#266



BruSwillis wrote:


Animal_Chin wrote:
"my other car is your mom"



It's "my other ride is your Mom" the quote you use doesnt make sense.




Now make like a tree and get out of here!



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-I support going slow and being careful.
focus thread (n.): there for us to focus on while they went behind our backs and did whatever they wanted to, anyway. (Source: AngusMacGregor)
gomi321
Sat Feb 19, 2005 8:19 am
#267

Since we don't smuggle why don't they just change our profession to Slicer?




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dlc3007
Sat Feb 19, 2005 8:38 am
#268

Well.... now I'm just depressed.

Apparently we smugglers need to work on our Uber, 1eet, fight-club, 12-year-old "I wanna be better than you" attitudes. If we acted more like the pathetic BH/Jedi babies, maybe we'd move forward rather than back.


Of course, I've yet to see anyone RP a Jedi or BH... maybe that's just not supposed to be part of the game.




Imperial Col. Croda L'to

Jedi kiss their sisters -- repeatedly.



Zombie_Arsani wrote: Quiet jedi, grownups are talking.
Tynvyr
Sat Feb 19, 2005 8:54 am
#269

*turns on Rush - Vapor Trail and turns the Volume up*


Smuggler are the Underdogs. Thanks for reminding. At least there is a very small hope, this isn't the prelude for the Smuggler Revamp. If they think of that at all ...



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Try again. Fail again. Fail better. (S. Beckett)

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Sengis
Sat Feb 19, 2005 9:19 am
#270






dlc3007 wrote:

Well.... now I'm just depressed.

Apparently we smugglers need to work on our Uber, 1eet, fight-club, 12-year-old "I wanna be better than you" attitudes. If we acted more like the pathetic BH/Jedi babies, maybe we'd move forward rather than back.


Of course, I've yet to see anyone RP a Jedi or BH... maybe that's just not supposed to be part of the game.





actualyl i know someof both, But you know why you dont see rp jedi? Cos they hide,an stay of terminals, adn do not f the game up from everyone else.




ex Colonel Sengis Ghean NVA
Founder, Arroyo, Dantooine and NVA - I²D²
Master Smuggler since 01/04 | | Spice for sale PST
"When Sony and Lucas set out, we said, How can we do this and not make another EQ? We didn't want it to be all about Luke, or combat, or lock our players into a class. So we created a system that would allow players to switch professions during the game, and there would be a lot of gameplay around making that change. If you want to go from architect to scout we've created a system to make that happen."
Julio Torres
SmugglinZane
Sat Feb 19, 2005 9:25 am
#271






Standardlager wrote:

This game is all about Bounty Hunters and Jedi now.


The Devs care not for anyone else.


BH's complain about Jedi using FD and they get it altered. Jedi do their fight clubs and they get away with it because SOE is too scared to take a stand against them in fear of losing subscriptions. If anything goes wrong with either of these 2 professions the Devs jump right out there to fix it. No other proffession gets the pampering that they get. A perfect example of this is Squad Leader.


It is a pitty that Smuggler never was made out to be what it should have been. The Devs have no creativity or guts.


This game is gettin LAME.







I'm fairly sure now that the reason they went ahead and sanctioned fight clubs was to balance the Jedi complaints that they fully expected to come about with the FD change. They just didn't care what happened with the Smugglers.



"Jedi claims of being "broken" are like saying "But my TV isn't widescreen! It's broken! My TV can't show high-def pictures in 1080i, it can only do 720i! It's broken!" Meanwhile, crafters are saying "We'd really like to have a TV that's larger than 12" and gets more than 4 channels and doesn't constantly lose vertical control", and entertainers are saying "Can we get some color instead of this B&W piece of junk?" And smugglers? We're listening to radio programs of "The Shadow" and "The Abbot and Costello Comedy Hour" and hearing FDR's Fireside Chats. We don't even HAVE a damn TV, much less a broken one or a "broken" one by Jedi standards. I'd LOVE to be as "broken" as they are." - The Legendary Solo4114
dlc3007
Sat Feb 19, 2005 9:39 am
#272

I will blame Jedi and BH for Feign Death being nerfed to the point of uselessness. Both of these professions are, to me, equal in their abuse of and complaints about our skill. BH and Jedi have shown themselves, as a group, to have total disregard for any other profession or players in the game. Why do I say this? Two words:


Fight Club.


Not only are they willing to exploit and abuse other profession’s skills, but they are willing to pervert one of the central themes of the game: BH v. Jedi. They have shown themselves perfectly willing to work with their sworn enemies when it suits them, but still whine and moan when one of our skills can be misused by/against them.


Until these 133t little babies grow up and start playing the game rather than as a means to wave their ____s around, I’ll have no respect for either profession. If you belong to one of these professions and don’t like what I have to say, then so something about it: ban the fight clubs and start RPing – and do something about the others in your profession.



Imperial Col. Croda L'to

Jedi kiss their sisters -- repeatedly.



Zombie_Arsani wrote: Quiet jedi, grownups are talking.
dlc3007
Sat Feb 19, 2005 10:05 am
#273

Nice one-star.... I'm having trouble guessing.... BH or Jedi? Not much difference really. Both are ruining the game.



Imperial Col. Croda L'to

Jedi kiss their sisters -- repeatedly.



Zombie_Arsani wrote: Quiet jedi, grownups are talking.
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