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Thread: Smuggler Request to the Devs to clarify the changes on Feign Death. What does it mean to us?

Thochkored
Sat Feb 19, 2005 12:01 am
#248

It is true that something needed to be done to fix Feigndeath in PvP combat. But when the Smuggler community worked so hard to come up with solutions, to prevent a complete nerf of their skill, and still the devsdecide to nerf it is completely unacceptable.


Those who think using FD in PvP is greifing or unfair haven't fully considered the tatics to use FD. There are plenty of reasons to use FD in a large group PvP battle, FD can be used to buy time, to get help, to prevent the lose of your buffs. However in a one on one situation, such as the Jedi v. BH situation it is pointless and I would agree that it is an unintended use of the system.


As far as the question of "What BH would hunt a Smuggler who could FD?" Well if BH's had an InvestigationSkill to detect FD, then I think many would take the chance. Plus, they are as greedy as the rest of us, if a Smuggler's bounty climbed high enough they would take it.


What complete ticks me off and causes me to blow a gasket is, that we are being nerfed because of a class which should almost be completely extinct. Lets take all of the Jedi, move them to one server and then incinerate it! I know that BH's share some of the blame in FD abuse, but at least they belong in the timeline.




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Nekra
Sat Feb 19, 2005 12:26 am
#249

/pounds desk


/shout LOUD NOISES
Iwawmi
Sat Feb 19, 2005 12:32 am
#250

how can you break smuggler anymore than it is


its virtually void of content


armor slicing should be done by armorsmiths

weapon slicing should be done by weaponsmiths

spice should be made by chefs

and nobody wants underworld


bye bye smuggler profession



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Iwawmi
Sat Feb 19, 2005 12:43 am
#251

AFTER ALL THESE GOD DAMN POSTS ASKING IF AND WHEN. ITS FINALLY BEEN TESTED ON THE TC SERVER AND YOU WILL GET INCAPPED AND DEATHBLOWN IN PVP



Iwaw'mi Riki | Pre-Cu -(when it ment something)Dark Jedi Knight
# ~ Loot Vendor Located 700m From Dantooine Mining Outpost ( -900 / 1830 ) Krayt Pearls, Grevious StarFighter (650k), AV-21's and More !! ~
R.I.P SWG - 27th April 2005
AfeeElandra
Sat Feb 19, 2005 12:53 am
#252

So, does this mean if I FD, then get incapped, I can be DB'd in PvP?



The above post wasn't clear.......





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Saabotage
Sat Feb 19, 2005 1:50 am
#253

Um, Just a thaught here!


My humble Devs!


What is the point of Feign Death of you can be put incapped by useing it? That is the sole purpose of Feign Death, is to keep you from dieing!

If the change is as read on the version thread then, it will take our ONLY USEFUL SKILL...... (WAIT FACTION IS WAY MORE USEFUL NOW!!!) One of our 2 useful skills and make it a moot ability as it won't help you at ALL!


Some how I feel as though right after Ii finished eating the carrot,I got hit with a STICK! Or a bat!


Please clarify!



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HiJiiNks
Sat Feb 19, 2005 2:08 am
#254

JIMMENY CRICKET

I might spend time a go threw the post from the DEV

saying FD is working like it should

But you BH CRYED every day about FD

and now u nerf us because your a bunch of cry baby you know there are more profession beside BH and Jedi

But us smuggler have been getting the shaft for a long time

I so sick iof the BH and jedi thing this game would be a lot better off

if BH could not take a jedi mission and maybe then all us other profession might get fixed



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PeccaviCraft
Sat Feb 19, 2005 2:48 am
#255






HiJiiNks wrote:

JIMMENY CRICKET

I might spend time a go threw the post from the DEV

saying FD is working like it should

But you BH CRYED every day about FD

and now u nerf us because your a bunch of cry baby you know there are more profession beside BH and Jedi

But us smuggler have been getting the shaft for a long time

I so sick iof the BH and jedi thing this game would be a lot better off

if BH could not take a jedi mission and maybe then all us other profession might get fixed




this is totally right ... FD is made to escape death now you break it what is the sense of having it in the game? What's the sense of letting BH hunt Jedi? Just make Jedi a Reg proff once you get to it, just with the exp penalty if you die.




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LSMSC
Sat Feb 19, 2005 4:12 am
#256

Just an Idea:

Why don´t change Feign Death, that the other player wins the Duel/PVP when you go Feign Death?

Both side could live with this. The Feign-Death-User didn´t die and the other player wins.

Would this be that bad?
Sengis
Sat Feb 19, 2005 4:33 am
#257


/clap Well done jedi and stinking bh for ruining a perfectly good smuggler skill. My hatred fro those two proffessions grows further.


Oh and by the way devs. You have once again kicked the smuggler proffession in the knackers with your pandering to the leet kiddies and griefer teengeeks who play jedis and bh.

Message Edited by Sengis on 02-19-2005 11:41 AM



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Eulbobo
Sat Feb 19, 2005 5:06 am
#258

i don't know what to think

Are the devs just listening to whiners to change the game?

Whine a lot, get it nerfed?


The bad side is that there were TONS of other solutions to "fix" Feign death...

Devs choose the worst one


Maybe the faction cap was the little lollipot to let us accept the big stick that you want to put in our bottom.....

I don't buy it



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Animal_Chin
Sat Feb 19, 2005 5:25 am
#259

Now the Devs say that FD was never intended to make you unkillable.

My Question:Is this how it is intended?

If so why do we have a skill that makes FDing more effective.


I am not pissed about the nerf, I saw it coming a mile away. I am pissed that this is a quick fix to stop Jedi and Bounty Hunters from using a skill that is not theirs. The Development team could have taken time and said "FD needs to be changed, but how can we do it so it is fair to the profession we are doing it to."



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BruSwillis
Sat Feb 19, 2005 6:02 am
#260






Animal_Chin wrote:

"my other car is your mom"






It's "my other ride is your Mom" the quote you use doesnt make sense.






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