Smuggler Archive
Thread: Smuggler Request to the Devs to clarify the changes on Feign Death. What does it mean to us?
TimSpork
Fri Feb 18, 2005 9:39 pm
#235
Wolveryne40 wrote:
Tiggs wrote:
Smuggler peoples,
This was a fix for "bug" that was/is happening. My apologies for the one-liner but it is a bit busy around here and I was trying to get you the information and juggle other things at the same time. At any rate, right now (on live) you can not be incapacitated while feigning. This is not as designed. We fixed this so that a person can be incapacitated while feigning.
So why then was it not fixed two years ago? or, at least, mentioned that it was a "bug"? Funny, how that never was mentioned this ennnnnnnnnntire time.
Are you all finally admitting, even thou it was argued against by the devs, that this game was/is still in a beta stage and that in fact
you all really do not have a clue one on how to fix the smugglers or the rest of this game to act like star wars and not making it copy EQ2 which seems to be the case with the new UI templates?
what dev can argue the fact that smugglers are correct and have indeed been ignored, that quoted statement would say you betcha since it has been a "bug" from day one now, and if it was a "bug"? why did we alter the "bug" so that FD worked differntly down the road. why not simply fix said "bug" back when it was messed with about, what? a year ago now.
Strikes me funny how FD was altered roughly a year ago and now to justify it being altered again it is now officialy termed a "bug"
Amazing how these things work, isnt it?
QFE
*edit* Just realised I'll have to change my Sig, now that something else doesn't frealling work.
Message Edited by TimSpork on 02-18-2005 10:41 PM
Wolveryne40
Fri Feb 18, 2005 9:45 pm
#236
Arcan wrote:JustG wrote:The intention is that you can be deathblowed while feign-death(ed). If not this is essentially an invuln button for PvP.If we can now be DB'ed while in FD, then what the hell is FD for?The whole point of FD was to APPEAR DEAD !!!!I cannot shoot/kick/poke a corpse in game once they are dead, so logically, if FD was to appear dead then a DB would be impossible.Just got one thing for the Devs to do, go and read the description for Feign Death in the DF tree, then tell me again that this was a longstanding bug.It is interesting to note that FD was NEVER listed as a bug until it started to get abused by BH and Jedi.BAH !
Q F E !
eeseigeameo
Fri Feb 18, 2005 9:47 pm
#237
Wolveryne40 wrote:
Arcan wrote:JustG wrote:The intention is that you can be deathblowed while feign-death(ed). If not this is essentially an invuln button for PvP.If we can now be DB'ed while in FD, then what the hell is FD for?The whole point of FD was to APPEAR DEAD !!!!I cannot shoot/kick/poke a corpse in game once they are dead, so logically, if FD was to appear dead then a DB would be impossible.Just got one thing for the Devs to do, go and read the description for Feign Death in the DF tree, then tell me again that this was a longstanding bug.It is interesting to note that FD was NEVER listed as a bug until it started to get abused by BH and Jedi.BAH !
Q F E !
The fact remains it was classified as a bug, and they are removing it because, if nothing else, they dont like it. Get over it, it still works for PVE just like JustG said. Dunno how so many people can be complete IDIOTS and miss such a blatent explanation *sigh* none of you have any room to talk about the devs.
Wolveryne40
Fri Feb 18, 2005 9:53 pm
#238
JustG wrote:The intention is that you can be deathblowed while feign-death(ed). If not this is essentially an invuln button for PvP.This has been a long-standing bug that was fixed because of the impending GCW changes.
HMMM where does it say that it works for pve exactly? again if it was such a loooong standing bug.. why then was it simply altered not a year ago and not instead fixed plus if its a "BUG" why would it still work for pve?.. thats what we would like to know. Even us non smugglers are getting tired of watching them get screwed over.
Wolveryne40
Fri Feb 18, 2005 10:03 pm
#239
eeseigeameo wrote:
Wolveryne40 wrote:
Arcan wrote:JustG wrote:The intention is that you can be deathblowed while feign-death(ed). If not this is essentially an invuln button for PvP.If we can now be DB'ed while in FD, then what the hell is FD for?The whole point of FD was to APPEAR DEAD !!!!I cannot shoot/kick/poke a corpse in game once they are dead, so logically, if FD was to appear dead then a DB would be impossible.Just got one thing for the Devs to do, go and read the description for Feign Death in the DF tree, then tell me again that this was a longstanding bug.It is interesting to note that FD was NEVER listed as a bug until it started to get abused by BH and Jedi.BAH !
Q F E !
The fact remains it was classified as a bug, and they are removing it because, if nothing else, they dont like it. Get over it, it still works for PVE just like JustG said. Dunno how so many people can be complete IDIOTS and miss such a blatent explanation *sigh* none of you have any room to talk about the devs.
Simply because it can move on to other professions Mr. TKM one day it might be mine they decided to whack, whatever you do remember they did it cause they dont like it when yours feels the pain of nerf after nerf.
Anjou
Fri Feb 18, 2005 10:10 pm
#240
Wonderful. Thank you whiney BH's and crybaby Jedi for ruining our profession even more.
If FD was this bad of a problem, why not move it to the master box so we'd get SOMETHING for mastering smuggler.
So I guess when you discover that PSG's that are put into anti-decay kits get sliced and Jedi start to cry about that you'll nerf slicing.
novafluxx
Fri Feb 18, 2005 10:42 pm
#241
I'm sure we'll get an even better explanation, with more details tomorrow. Lets just relax and see...wait tomorrows Saturday...dangit!
I'm sure we'll get an even better explanation, with more details Monday. Lets just relax as we only have what they've said, nothing more. Lets not jump to conclustions.
I'm sure we'll get an even better explanation, with more details Monday. Lets just relax as we only have what they've said, nothing more. Lets not jump to conclustions.
mrmanta
Fri Feb 18, 2005 10:43 pm
#242
novafluxx wrote:
I'm sure we'll get an even better explanation, with more details tomorrow. Lets just relax and see...wait tomorrows Saturday...dangit!
I'm sure we'll get an even better explanation, with more details Monday. Lets just relax as we only have what they've said, nothing more. Lets not jump to conclustions.
Looking at their track record I guess I'm gonna have to sort of......disagree with you there
NickHeel
Fri Feb 18, 2005 10:49 pm
#243
mrmanta wrote:
novafluxx wrote:
I'm sure we'll get an even better explanation, with more details tomorrow. Lets just relax and see...wait tomorrows Saturday...dangit!
I'm sure we'll get an even better explanation, with more details Monday. Lets just relax as we only have what they've said, nothing more. Lets not jump to conclustions.
Looking at their track record I guess I'm gonna have to sort of......disagree with you there
I don't think the Devs got the memo about their TPS reports or how it sends this community/beaten dog into madness when they do this sort of thing. Hopefully, they'll need some people to come in on Saturday....and then again on Sunday to fix this the right way. About 9.....mmm'kay? Thanks. *sips coffee*
mrmanta
Fri Feb 18, 2005 10:54 pm
#244
So....TH....what would you say you do here? /confused face
NickHeel wrote:
mrmanta wrote:
novafluxx wrote:
I'm sure we'll get an even better explanation, with more details tomorrow. Lets just relax and see...wait tomorrows Saturday...dangit!
I'm sure we'll get an even better explanation, with more details Monday. Lets just relax as we only have what they've said, nothing more. Lets not jump to conclustions.
Looking at their track record I guess I'm gonna have to sort of......disagree with you there
I don't think the Devs got the memo about their TPS reports or how it sends this community/beaten dog into madness when they do this sort of thing. Hopefully, they'll need some people to come in on Saturday....and then again on Sunday to fix this the right way. About 9.....mmm'kay? Thanks. *sips coffee*
ViperOSU
Fri Feb 18, 2005 11:06 pm
#245
All I can say is, that if I were still a maste smuggler, I would have quit today.
NalaniKonomohu
Fri Feb 18, 2005 11:26 pm
#246
Was the programming too difficult to move a Smuggler skill to the master box? I feel so awful for my smuggler buddies Another thing, I looted a -1 Use Action Poison CDEF Pistol yesterday lol. /shrug
Standardlager
Sat Feb 19, 2005 12:00 am
#247
This game is all about Bounty Hunters and Jedi now.
The Devs care not for anyone else.
BH's complain about Jedi using FD and they get it altered. Jedi do their fight clubs and they get away with it because SOE is too scared to take a stand against them in fear of losing subscriptions. If anything goes wrong with either of these 2 professions the Devs jump right out there to fix it. No other proffession gets the pampering that they get. A perfect example of this is Squad Leader.
It is a pitty that Smuggler never was made out to be what it should have been. The Devs have no creativity or guts.
This game is gettin LAME.