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Thread: HoC SWG Chat log

Orange-Lazarus
Sat Aug 27, 2005 12:51 am
#248






Alpha_Bits wrote:

I can't believe you guys are still talking to the orange jedi... reading his posts makes me want to chew my arm off.


I dub him... The Cheeto Jedi.


Orange, artificial and soul-less, he leaves his sickening orange taint all over the forum.





yeh your posts are soooo much better /poke



Orange Died 17-10-2005 May She Rest in Peace
from_beyond
Sat Aug 27, 2005 12:51 am
#249






MISTagent01 wrote:
Tiggs:

I'd love to see an Astromech stats where you guys tell us what percentage of those 1 million copies of SWG sold are still ACTIVE subscriptions. You can sell a million copies of anything, but it's subscriptions that really tell a story.

SOE and LA are surely baffled that the most beloved franchise in the history of film isn't doing 1/8th of the business that a generic MMO like WoW is...the turnover rate is so high for this game that it's probably confused all of you...why hasn't SWG performed the way it SHOULD? The simple fact of the matter is this: you can NOT implement an Alpha class into an MMO. It never works, because over time, everyone will have attained that Alpha class (with the exception of people purposefully trying NOT to,) and the game becomes heavily unbalanced and nowhere near "fun." Yes, you looked the other way when it came to Jedi, and I have no problem with that. It's the fact that they remain an Alpha class that has sucked the heart and soul out of this game. Armorsmiths and Weaponsmiths quit everyday because there are less and less players to craft for, since Jedi don't wear craftable armor and craft their own weapons. Entertainers have left in droves because they have no place in the GCW, and have been far removed from the rest of the playerbase. Everyone else (except BH) are cancelling because for the most part, they're treated like annoying flies on a hot summer day.

If SOE and LA only realized that if they stopped directing most content towards Jedi, and subsequently spread out that extra attention to EVERY NON-JEDI profession, the entire game would flourish again. Do you realize that resources being used right now on the FRS system could be used to re-build the GCW, give smugglers smuggling, re-energize the Entertainer professions, and possibly fix so many of the bugs still plaguing crafters?

I know it's just your job to relay information...but as Community Director, you're supposed to be on OUR side, not theirs. You need to want to help us, not just relay one way and not the other.

I'm aware you have other posts to read, but if you do read this, relay it to someone that has some common sense and can do something about it. You weren't around when this game first launched, so let me paint a picture of my server for you:

Theed was a bustling commerce city...people were hawking their wares, dancing, laughing, dueling, and having a rollicking good time. Cantinas were packed with beautiful Entertainers of every race, shape and size...along with scoundrels, Stormtroopers, and drunks. People grouped up and stuck together in the wilderness, and you ALWAYS took a Scout or a Ranger with you. We lived our own Star Wars saga. We created our own personas, our own histories, and it all blended into this wonderful, magical experience that I will always remember.

That magic is gone now, but I'd pay 50 bucks a month to have it back.

/tiphat




QFE, btw




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KloudRunner
Sat Aug 27, 2005 7:08 am
#250






from_beyond wrote:





MISTagent01 wrote:
Ok, let's stop the fighting and get back on topic.

We hate HoC chats!





They are a pointless waste of time! We'd be better off talking to a brick wall or arguing with a jedi than try to get any useful information out of the Devs!





i once spoke with a brick wall while under magic substances. It said it didnt hold much hope for us getting smuggling. It did say that HoC chats were and invention of Alexander Grahem Bell and that he had met Jesus.....




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ClevtonRyles
Sat Aug 27, 2005 2:08 pm
#251






Fernas wrote:

Tiggs wrote


I am logging out for a bit and will check back to this thread later.


___________________________________________________



its later.







QFE



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"I didn't know how many of em it would take to kick my ass, but I knew how many they were gunna use..."
I am Jack's ignored profession.
KIA 26 AUGUST 2005 by Dev Jeedai Lovin'
Tante
Sat Aug 27, 2005 2:23 pm
#252

adv. later, latest
  1. After the expected, usual, or proper time: a train that arrived late; woke late and had to skip breakfast.


    1. At or until an advanced hour: talked late into the evening.

    2. At or into an advanced period or stage: a project undertaken late in her career.


  2. Recently: As late as last week he was still in town.




(see in dictionary.com).

Read it Tiggs. Try to look up "soon"



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EEMAN
Sat Aug 27, 2005 7:06 pm
#253



Orange-Lazarus wrote:

*Points out the time to Tiggs*

*Taps Foot*

*Taps Foot*

*Taps Foot*

*Taps Foot*

*See an angry mob of smugglers coming to lynch her*

*Runs off*




I suppose thats one way of having a bunch of guys chasing after you....


*gasp* did I say that??



Omosack
Master Weaponsmith
Master Shipwright
Better Homes and Guns - in the Chilastra Galaxy

- It's time the devs end the bitter fighting by giving the community a Non Jedi server. We have a few servers with TINY populations that could be changed to this ruleset. I support this idea because it punishes noone. - You can support it too. Click Here!
Vendrin
Sat Aug 27, 2005 8:46 pm
#254

I was suprised a dev actually even bothered to post here, though I don't expect another one from tiggs now. Their is just no way she can respond and come off looking anything but an idiot.
from_beyond
Sat Aug 27, 2005 10:45 pm
#255



EEMAN wrote:


Orange-Lazarus wrote:

*Points out the time to Tiggs*

*Taps Foot*

*Taps Foot*

*Taps Foot*

*Taps Foot*

*See an angry mob of smugglers coming to lynch her*

*Runs off*




I suppose thats one way of having a bunch of guys chasing after you....


*gasp* did I say that??




Guys? What, bitter homicidal revamp hungry money grubbing drug running law avoiding idiot cannablinzing villianous jedi slaughtering scum smugglers can only be guys now?

*calls her bomb droid and sends it after EEMAN*

Eff you buddy

/det




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Rhyeal
Sun Aug 28, 2005 12:27 am
#256






Tiggs wrote:






Rhu wrote:






Tiggs wrote:
Nope it is all done for free.




So it is just being used as another marketing outlet for canned replies to predictable questions on narrow topics, then?


At least that's how I read all the, "We can't answer, but believe me, you can't wait!" replies. :/



Edit: What I was hoping that the HoC chats were were an opportunity to discuss and understand the nature and direction of the present and future of the game.

Message Edited by Rhu on 08-25-200505:13 PM






HoC chats are an opportunity to discuss the topic at hand. Last night's chat discussion was based upon the new expansion announcement and experience changes from last week.


We can only answer questions that pretain to those chat discussions. Players submit the questions to question takers and they are forwarded on to us during the chat. There will always be certain topics we can't discuss due to trade secrets so to speak.






Im betting someone already said this, but I just have to. I am really angry being a Ranger myself (I know about the no attention issues). From the LAUNCHPAD:





Stratics is pleased to announce a House of Commons chat with the developers of Star Wars Galaxies on Wednesday, August 24th! It will be at 5pm PDT / 8pm EDT in the #StraticsHoC channel on Stratics IRC.


Wednesday's topic's are: Star Wars Galaxies: Trials of Obi-Wan (TOW) and a discussion about current and upcoming content publishes and updates.. [double period in original]






Wait a minute! Did Tiggs just LIE to us directly? DId they changethe topic of the chat w/o informing the players? Well, ok, lets have a debate on politics. But I wont tell you that I changed the debate to be on religion 2 seconds before we start, ok? Wow, just stop the lying and cover-ups. Give us straight answers or go run for public office.





Rhyeal Shadowblade :: Egone Thale :::: Riflemen :: Rangers :::: Ranger is a Lifestyle, Live it!
"No, I'm not a combat profession, I don't do that anymore."
Wraith-X
Sun Aug 28, 2005 12:35 am
#257


Free-form open HOC chats are nothing of the sort, they're more of a...


underhanded attempt at faking, (yes I mean faking and a sad attempt it is)


communication with the player base, when you already have a method you


keep forgetting to use!!!



You set up the correspondents as a way to still communicate from a distance,


only you seem to be keeping them in the dark and feeding them... well,


under the circumstances I won't say what their being fed.



Shoveling the contents of these HOC chats into the forums expecting us take it like


obsequious little lap dogs with your cutsey little comments about how "Suprised and


excited" we're all going to be is so far beyond naive its unbelievable.



As you must be aware, the end result is that you come off at best as treating players as


nonexistant and at worst as though you actively want the majority of players to


drop the game entirely for something better.



Lately its caused so much background bile I can barely bring myself to visit the game,


and I feel even less like visiting the forumns, as things go on I'm tempted to cancel.





I aim to misbehave!
EEMAN
Sun Aug 28, 2005 6:18 am
#258



from_beyond wrote:


EEMAN wrote:


Orange-Lazarus wrote:

*Points out the time to Tiggs*

*Taps Foot*

*Taps Foot*

*Taps Foot*

*Taps Foot*

*See an angry mob of smugglers coming to lynch her*

*Runs off*




I suppose thats one way of having a bunch of guys chasing after you....


*gasp* did I say that??




Guys? What, bitter homicidal revamp hungry money grubbing drug running law avoiding idiot cannablinzing villianous jedi slaughtering scum smugglers can only be guys now?

*calls her bomb droid and sends it after EEMAN*

Eff you buddy

/det


So you think Tiggs diggs the girls too eh? verrrrry interesting....



Omosack
Master Weaponsmith
Master Shipwright
Better Homes and Guns - in the Chilastra Galaxy

- It's time the devs end the bitter fighting by giving the community a Non Jedi server. We have a few servers with TINY populations that could be changed to this ruleset. I support this idea because it punishes noone. - You can support it too. Click Here!
yimaz
Sun Aug 28, 2005 7:57 am
#259






Orange-Lazarus wrote:








i count 25 SWG serverswow has over100US servers alone so draw your own conclusions - hate to break it to ya but read a review ortwo, over all market share for MMO's has star wars at 8% that's a giant failure for a game as big as this. Draw your own conclusions...


ok this is the point JEDI IS NO LONGER AN ALPHA CLASS pre pub 9 yes pre cu yes now we are out healed, damage and out tanked the only thing jedi can do is run fast and live while incaped (AI) thats it jedi suck in all other areas - lol all of my friends are jedi and while they are not as powerful as before they are still powerful and can take most if not all other player professions. It's an ALPHA class and while it's not as uber as you might want it to be it's still uber. Simple fact.


explane how jedi get all the love while everyone else suffers ?? - how long have you been in game? Many patchs have been (for good or bad) directed at Jedi and or Bounty Hunter (because ofBountys) for well over a year. Come on bro read old patch notesyou have been in game log enough to know it's true.If you can see that then your blind.


agree my server is nearly empty a hand full of dancer in coro theed is total empty - the game is not about Star Was now it's about Jedi and you might not like hearing that but it's a sad fact. Im not flamin ya, your a jedi and that's fine but you need to accept that EVERYONE is or will be jedi and ALL other professions have been and are dieing because of it. Don't take my word for it you see it yourself...where is everyone on your server huh?








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Ternque01
Sun Aug 28, 2005 8:34 am
#260






yimaz wrote:






Orange-Lazarus wrote:








i count 25 SWG serverswow has over100US servers alone so draw your own conclusions - hate to break it to ya but read a review ortwo, over all market share for MMO's has star wars at 8% that's a giant failure for a game as big as this. Draw your own conclusions...


ok this is the point JEDI IS NO LONGER AN ALPHA CLASS pre pub 9 yes pre cu yes now we are out healed, damage and out tanked the only thing jedi can do is run fast and live while incaped (AI) thats it jedi suck in all other areas - lol all of my friends are jedi and while they are not as powerful as before they are still powerful and can take most if not all other player professions. It's an ALPHA class and while it's not as uber as you might want it to be it's still uber. Simple fact.


explane how jedi get all the love while everyone else suffers ?? - how long have you been in game? Many patchs have been (for good or bad) directed at Jedi and or Bounty Hunter (because ofBountys) for well over a year. Come on bro read old patch notesyou have been in game log enough to know it's true.If you can see that then your blind.


agree my server is nearly empty a hand full of dancer in coro theed is total empty - the game is not about Star Was now it's about Jedi and you might not like hearing that but it's a sad fact. Im not flamin ya, your a jedi and that's fine but you need to accept that EVERYONE is or will be jedi and ALL other professions have been and are dieing because of it. Don't take my word for it you see it yourself...where is everyone on your server huh?










Spoken like the truth, yimaz.



Axob Freelight
The non-Jedi are extinct. Their fire has gone out of the universe.
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