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Thread: HoC SWG Chat log

TomoRainer
Sat Aug 27, 2005 12:11 am
#235

Sometimes I don't understand the levels of secrecy taken with this game. I understand the legitimate business concerns of keeping wraps on stuff from the competition, but when it becomes a legitimate concern that customers are losing faith in your business because they're uncertain about its future, it may be time to reevaluate some policies.







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from_beyond
Sat Aug 27, 2005 12:17 am
#236

Would be nice if Tiggs came back and answered some of these questions. But I guess she's too busy doing other important things that make the game better. She's certainly not just playing a pointless game of hide and seek with people over on the quest and missions forum...certainly not...




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Orange-Lazarus
Sat Aug 27, 2005 12:24 am
#237






from_beyond wrote:

Would be nice if Tiggs came back and answered some of these questions. But I guess she's too busy doing other important things that make the game better. She's certainly not just playing a pointless game of hide and seek with people over on the quest and missions forum...certainly not...





look at all her post in this thread so far there worse than mine

Message Edited by Orange-Lazarus on 08-26-2005 08:25 PM



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from_beyond
Sat Aug 27, 2005 12:26 am
#238






Orange-Lazarus wrote:


Look at all her post in this thread so far,they're worse than mine.

Message Edited by Orange-Lazarus on 08-26-2005 08:25 PM





There you go honey.




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Jawa-Sith-Lord
Sat Aug 27, 2005 12:33 am
#239


from_beyond wrote:


Orange-Lazarus wrote:

Look at all her post in this thread so far,they're worse than mine.

Message Edited by Orange-Lazarus on 08-26-2005 08:25 PM



There you go honey.





I think we should give Orange a break. It's obvious that English is not his first language. I would suspect l337. He's actually making a great effort considering that background.





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Tante
Sat Aug 27, 2005 12:34 am
#240



Orange-Lazarus wrote:


from_beyond wrote:


Orange-Lazarus wrote:

Look at all her post in this thread so far, they're worse than mine.

Message Edited by Orange-Lazarus on 08-26-2005 08:25 PM



There you go honey.


hmmm well tiggs has better grammer and spelling than me




Hmm, yes she has. You just need to throw a few commas and full stops in from time to time, helps reading your stuff a lot.
But I think that was enough about your orthographic skills. Back to topic: HoC Chat.



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Orange-Lazarus
Sat Aug 27, 2005 12:38 am
#241



Seams a bit pointless to me when the developers pick the question and yet they cannot answer most of them. Or am I reading tiggs post wrong ?




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Orange-Lazarus
Sat Aug 27, 2005 12:39 am
#242


^^ used word and eveything on that post



Orange Died 17-10-2005 May She Rest in Peace
Tante
Sat Aug 27, 2005 12:41 am
#243



Orange-Lazarus wrote:
^^ used word and eveything on that post




Hmm, already better. Would be awesome if it stayed that way



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cpz
Sat Aug 27, 2005 12:42 am
#244

Questions reposted for answering.





cpz wrote:





Tiggs wrote:





cpz wrote:


Typical



Tiggs fliles in here, answers some fluff, posts a nice big smiley, then runs off into the wilderness


How about, Tiggs, you stand up and show us your metal.



I challenge you to come here and answer the real questions your community would like to see answered. I lay the gauntlett down. Live up to your title and prove yourself to be a real Director of Community Relations, rather than the semi-skimmed diet Fluff poster some of us believe you to be.





I have not run off into the wilderness and I am here answering questions that were posted. I answer what I know is solid bring back information to the team from all communities.







Okay Tiggs


Many players feel marginalised by the direction the game has taken over the last few months. These fans are largely Original Trilogy fans who tend to migrate towards the more RP professions - Smuggler, Ranger, Squal Leader- despite not necessarily being heavy RP players. These players reject the notion of the Jedi grind as the centerpiece of the game, and favour a more canon verison of the game, with the Galactic Civil War being the centerpiece, as in the OT movies. These players believe they and their professions are being neglected by the Development Team and by the Community Relations Team, with the Jedi grind and Prequel-orientated content have the main focus, as is indicated by the ROTW and TOW expansions. These players, many of them veterans, are leaving in droves.


Now show us your mettle, prove yourself worthy of the Director tag you wear:



  • Have the Producers been made aware of this swell of attitude?

  • If so, what are their plans for addressing the concerns?

  • If not, why not?

Three simple questions to which I think we deserve honest and open answers.







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MISTagent01
Sat Aug 27, 2005 12:45 am
#245

Yeah, I'll repost my original post too, since we got a bit derailed there:

Tiggs:

I'd love to see an Astromech stats where you guys tell us what percentage of those 1 million copies of SWG sold are still ACTIVE subscriptions. You can sell a million copies of anything, but it's subscriptions that really tell a story.

SOE and LA are surely baffled that the most beloved franchise in the history of film isn't doing 1/8th of the business that a generic MMO like WoW is...the turnover rate is so high for this game that it's probably confused all of you...why hasn't SWG performed the way it SHOULD? The simple fact of the matter is this: you can NOT implement an Alpha class into an MMO. It never works, because over time, everyone will have attained that Alpha class (with the exception of people purposefully trying NOT to,) and the game becomes heavily unbalanced and nowhere near "fun." Yes, you looked the other way when it came to Jedi, and I have no problem with that. It's the fact that they remain an Alpha class that has sucked the heart and soul out of this game. Armorsmiths and Weaponsmiths quit everyday because there are less and less players to craft for, since Jedi don't wear craftable armor and craft their own weapons. Entertainers have left in droves because they have no place in the GCW, and have been far removed from the rest of the playerbase. Everyone else (except BH) are cancelling because for the most part, they're treated like annoying flies on a hot summer day.

If SOE and LA only realized that if they stopped directing most content towards Jedi, and subsequently spread out that extra attention to EVERY NON-JEDI profession, the entire game would flourish again. Do you realize that resources being used right now on the FRS system could be used to re-build the GCW, give smugglers smuggling, re-energize the Entertainer professions, and possibly fix so many of the bugs still plaguing crafters?

I know it's just your job to relay information...but as Community Director, you're supposed to be on OUR side, not theirs. You need to want to help us, not just relay one way and not the other.

I'm aware you have other posts to read, but if you do read this, relay it to someone that has some common sense and can do something about it. You weren't around when this game first launched, so let me paint a picture of my server for you:

Theed was a bustling commerce city...people were hawking their wares, dancing, laughing, dueling, and having a rollicking good time. Cantinas were packed with beautiful Entertainers of every race, shape and size...along with scoundrels, Stormtroopers, and drunks. People grouped up and stuck together in the wilderness, and you ALWAYS took a Scout or a Ranger with you. We lived our own Star Wars saga. We created our own personas, our own histories, and it all blended into this wonderful, magical experience that I will always remember.

That magic is gone now, but I'd pay 50 bucks a month to have it back.

/tiphat



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Theed was a bustling commerce city...people hawked their wares, danced, laughed, dueled, and had a rollicking good time. Cantinas packed with Entertainers of every race, shape and size...along with scoundrels, Stormtroopers, and drunks. People grouped up and stuck together in the wilderness, and you ALWAYS took a Scout or a Ranger with you. We lived our own Star Wars saga. We created our own personas, our own histories, and it all blended into this wonderful, magical experience that I will always remember...


That magic is gone now, but I'd pay 50 bucks a month to have it back.

Editor's Note: The author of the above post has quit giving SOE her money. She suggests you do the same, because this game will never be what you want it to be.


Alpha_Bits
Sat Aug 27, 2005 12:48 am
#246

I can't believe you guys are still talking to the orange jedi... reading his posts makes me want to chew my arm off.


I dub him... The Cheeto Jedi.


Orange, artificial and soul-less, he leaves his sickening orange taint all over the forum.



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korvass
Sat Aug 27, 2005 12:50 am
#247

Man, Cpz, I just read all those cartoons in your sig. Damn that jive cracks me up





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