Smuggler Archive

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EEMAN wrote:

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from_beyond wrote:

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EEMAN wrote:

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Orange-Lazarus wrote:

*Points out the time to Tiggs*

*Taps Foot*

*Taps Foot*

*Taps Foot*

*Taps Foot*

*See an angry mob of smugglers coming to lynch her*

*Runs off*

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I suppose thats one way of having a bunch of guys chasing after you....


*gasp* did I say that??

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Guys? What, bitter homicidal revamp hungry money grubbing drug running law avoiding idiot cannablinzing villianous jedi slaughtering scum smugglers can only be guys now?

*calls her bomb droid and sends it after EEMAN*

Eff you buddy

/det

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So you think Tiggs diggs the girls too eh? verrrrry interesting....

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Nah, the only thing Tiggs digs is her own hole in regards to the community. Deep and deeper every day.

This thread will live forever

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Fernas wrote:

Tiggs wrote

I am logging out for a bit and will check back to this thread later.

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its later.

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Yes it is later and I am playing catch up on this thread.

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from_beyond wrote:

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EEMAN wrote:

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from_beyond wrote:

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EEMAN wrote:

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Orange-Lazarus wrote:

*Points out the time to Tiggs*

*Taps Foot*

*Taps Foot*

*Taps Foot*

*Taps Foot*

*See an angry mob of smugglers coming to lynch her*

*Runs off*

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I suppose thats one way of having a bunch of guys chasing after you....


*gasp* did I say that??

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Guys? What, bitter homicidal revamp hungry money grubbing drug running law avoiding idiot cannablinzing villianous jedi slaughtering scum smugglers can only be guys now?

*calls her bomb droid and sends it after EEMAN*

Eff you buddy

/det

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So you think Tiggs diggs the girls too eh? verrrrry interesting....

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Nah, the only thing Tiggs digs is her own hole in regards to the community. Deep and deeper every day.

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I am sorry you feel that way, I do have other job duties that I have to get done.

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Tiggs wrote:

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from_beyond wrote:

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EEMAN wrote:

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from_beyond wrote:

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EEMAN wrote:

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Orange-Lazarus wrote:

*Points out the time to Tiggs*

*Taps Foot*

*Taps Foot*

*Taps Foot*

*Taps Foot*

*See an angry mob of smugglers coming to lynch her*

*Runs off*

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I suppose thats one way of having a bunch of guys chasing after you....


*gasp* did I say that??

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Guys? What, bitter homicidal revamp hungry money grubbing drug running law avoiding idiot cannablinzing villianous jedi slaughtering scum smugglers can only be guys now?

*calls her bomb droid and sends it after EEMAN*

Eff you buddy

/det

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So you think Tiggs diggs the girls too eh? verrrrry interesting....

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Nah, the only thing Tiggs digs is her own hole in regards to the community. Deep and deeper every day.

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I am sorry you feel that way, I do have other job duties that I have to get done.

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snorpy wrote:
SO once again SOE decides to jump on the Epsiode 3 badn wagon and ignore the time line. Aren't we in between Episodes 4 and 5 supposedly? I guess not. Wouldn't it make sense to listen to 2 planets that the comunity has asked for since day one? Hoth and Bespin are the nest planets in the time line. Each would grant great opurtunities for game play. But hell no... let's just biggy back on the episode 3 DVD launch...

and I ask WHY THE HELL IS OBI WAN's BLUE GLOWY GHOST HANGING OUT ON MUSTAFAR, when he is talking in Lukes head? I mean seriousy, doesn't he have more important things to think about? Such has becomign more powerful than Darth Vader can imagine by training luke from beyond the grave? I mean if he's on Mustafar, how does Luke find Yoda? Or get enough training to not get his ass handed to him on a porcelain platter by vader @ Bespin. Oh wait that's right. SOE rewrites the entire Star Wars story to fill their pockets.

Now see with Hoth we could have gotten a GCW boost... could have even maybe been a GCW expansion. Many things could be added, espionage, crafting, and destroy missions, from Vader, Leia, and others. Rebels could try to craft better components for the shields around the power generator, or better capacitors for stronger weapons. The espionage, and destroy missions are kind of self explainatory, finding out where the enemy is located and then blowing it up.

With Bespin, you could get some cool adventure quests through cloud city. Crafters, would get the ability to mine gas from the gas mines for special new schematics and components. Player could get quests from Lando to help his cloud city prosper. Could even write in a sub story about a rival trying to sabotage his mine.

Also there could easily be included into both ideas a chance for smugglers, to oh I don't know, ACTUALLY SMUGGLE! Smuggle shipments from one mine to a seller, or smuggle weapons in and out of enemy camps.

it seems obvious to me, that SOE has no clue where they want this game to go, and that they only care about making a quick buck, and they don't care if they destroy parts of Star Wars in the process.

I am very disapointed, as I was actually starting to enjoy the game again. But right now, this expansion to me is well for lack of a better term... BANTHA POODOO!!! I really hope they offer more than running quests for a Main Character that is in a spot, that it makes no sense for him to be in. But this to me seems like it's going to make or break SWG, I for one hope the DEV's come up with somehting and let us know what it is soon, but I will not be getting this expansion until I know that there's something i am going to like, so far, from what I've seen... We can't tell you but you're going to love it... isn't cutting it, and it's a total BS answer... SO you know what SOE, i can't tell you I am going to buy this, but you may not like it!


just my 2 cents.

/end rant

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I will pass on your ideas for future expansions however this is decided upon by people higher on the food chain them me. Regarding the Smuggler upgrade it will come.

not all of us feel that way tiggs, but yes the chat was a bit dissapointing, dev's keep saying its not all about jedi there is still other things like 40 diverse missions. ok does that mean it takes a special smuggler skill to perform these missions? if not then its a publish for jedi and general populations. but the lack of any definitive answers on what other content is going to be added is unreal, if you arnt ready to tell us the entire thing why tell us anything at all?

For me the chat was a dissapointment, and it is a bit dissapointing that sometimes information isn't always relayed to the community regarding status on profession features, answers to community questions, etc.

However, I personally think Tiggs is one of the best community relations folks out there (certainly my favorite), and is doing a great job

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StarNick wrote:
For me the chat was a dissapointment, and it is a bit dissapointing that sometimes information isn't always relayed to the community regarding status on profession features, answers to community questions, etc.

However, I personally think Tiggs is one of the best community relations folks out there (certainly my favorite), and is doing a great job

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well said,

thats why your blue and im not

i mean seriously the whole chat seemed like a waste of space and time. you might as well introduced yourselfs and had one of the devs say "before anyone ask any questions.....the answer is we can cant talk about it at this time or we working on it (not really but it gives those suckers hope while we get thier money).Next time when you have another one of these chats you actually share some info most of the ppl DIDNT already know or when you release a expansion that isnt a obvious marketing ploy for episode 3 movie or episode 3 dvd.1 expansion for episode 3 was bad enough give us hoth or bespin or even corecant and actually advance the timeline and continue with the GCW like the main game was based on.

edited part: oh yeah and give the smugglers the love they deserve and let them actually smuggle.

Axeo Cook

Message Edited by AxeoCook23 on 08-29-2005 10:50 PM

Once again I am late to the thread but did read the majority of it (skimmed thru the last 2-3 pages). I share the "enthusiasm" of many posters in this thread.

Thetragedy of constant miscommunicationby the PRpeople, the frequently ignored (no matter how repeated they are) requests, the painfully apparant lack of focusand direction that SOE's management has (which is ironically hilarious becausethe double-sided talking is meant to draw attention away from the fact), and general unworthiness of the game have broken my Star Wars spirit.

The chat just made me feel bad. It reminded me of everything that was and is wrong with SWG.I was on a tight rope after the "slicing fix" publish (good ole 18). Ifiguredout of fairness I would wait around a few months and hear the development team out. After all, design and development is not an instantaneous process; it takes time.

Unfortunately, you've all failed beyond my wildest expectations. I am truly in shock. I can't help it but feel like a sucker (again) for believing that great things were in store for the game and me as well. What makes me feel evenworse is that I'm not even sure I can take another Star Wars product seriously after bearing witness to the ultimate cash-cow milking of the franchise. At this rate, I can only pray that Empire at War does the universe justice (it's my last, desperate hope).

Someone high up seems to think the consumers are idiots that will buy anything with a Star Wars logo on it. They're probably right (look no further than yours truly!). But, for an MMORPG, there's a lot more than simply a logo - there's an environment anda virtual life, and it's all comprised of a community of REAL individuals (stakeholders!) withREAL passion for Star Wars. Why this simple concept is beyond reach is truly astounding to me.

At any rate, I'm not quite sure how or why you guys (and gal) at SOE/LA have managed it, but all of you - the Devs, the Management, AND the PR guys (and gal), have pretty much choked the Star Wars life out of me and extinguished all sentimental feeling I had for this game. And possibly even Star Wars in the process. Good job.

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MISTagent01 wrote:
Yeah, I'll repost my original post too, since we got a bit derailed there:

Tiggs:

I'd love to see an Astromech stats where you guys tell us what percentage of those 1 million copies of SWG sold are still ACTIVE subscriptions. You can sell a million copies of anything, but it's subscriptions that really tell a story.

SOE and LA are surely baffled that the most beloved franchise in the history of film isn't doing 1/8th of the business that a generic MMO like WoW is...the turnover rate is so high for this game that it's probably confused all of you...why hasn't SWG performed the way it SHOULD? The simple fact of the matter is this: you can NOT implement an Alpha class into an MMO. It never works, because over time, everyone will have attained that Alpha class (with the exception of people purposefully trying NOT to,) and the game becomes heavily unbalanced and nowhere near "fun." Yes, you looked the other way when it came to Jedi, and I have no problem with that. It's the fact that they remain an Alpha class that has sucked the heart and soul out of this game. Armorsmiths and Weaponsmiths quit everyday because there are less and less players to craft for, since Jedi don't wear craftable armor and craft their own weapons. Entertainers have left in droves because they have no place in the GCW, and have been far removed from the rest of the playerbase. Everyone else (except BH) are cancelling because for the most part, they're treated like annoying flies on a hot summer day.

If SOE and LA only realized that if they stopped directing most content towards Jedi, and subsequently spread out that extra attention to EVERY NON-JEDI profession, the entire game would flourish again. Do you realize that resources being used right now on the FRS system could be used to re-build the GCW, give smugglers smuggling, re-energize the Entertainer professions, and possibly fix so many of the bugs still plaguing crafters?

I know it's just your job to relay information...but as Community Director, you're supposed to be on OUR side, not theirs. You need to want to help us, not just relay one way and not the other.

I'm aware you have other posts to read, but if you do read this, relay it to someone that has some common sense and can do something about it. You weren't around when this game first launched, so let me paint a picture of my server for you:

Theed was a bustling commerce city...people were hawking their wares, dancing, laughing, dueling, and having a rollicking good time. Cantinas were packed with beautiful Entertainers of every race, shape and size...along with scoundrels, Stormtroopers, and drunks. People grouped up and stuck together in the wilderness, and you ALWAYS took a Scout or a Ranger with you. We lived our own Star Wars saga. We created our own personas, our own histories, and it all blended into this wonderful, magical experience that I will always remember.

That magic is gone now, but I'd pay 50 bucks a month to have it back.

/tiphat

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Your post has been read and passed on. I would like to add that I represent the Communities views all the time. It is my and TH's jobs to let the team know how you will react to changes. Sometimes changes need to go in that the team feels will help the games long term goals even if the community doesn't agree.