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Thread: Flurry Smugglers

Jandel-Har
Wed Apr 07, 2004 8:01 am
#14

Perhaps we should do like the armor and weaponsmiths have done in the past, have an in game meeting .Gather all of the smugglers together and sit down and decide what we should and shouldn't do.Come to an agreement and stick to it. Maybe even have meetings on a regular basis to keep up with current demands. Just a thought.



Just Dak - Flurry
Jarkatoo
Wed Apr 07, 2004 9:02 am
#15

how about this, Selusa since you are the one intiating this movement i vote you as our union leader. we need to get a list of all the non-holo smugglers on flurry, maybe break it down to a chapter per planet, and have 1 smuggler keep tabs on all the smugglers living on those planets. kinda like our own smuggler underground. that way we could discuss prices and keep it fairly competative. how does this sound to everyone. that way we can deal with an smuggler issues that arise.keep tabs on the holo smugglers, maybe make some ban lists. what does everyone think about it.



nnJarkatoo Karkanan nn Elder Jedi Noob Againnn
nnJark T'oo nn still hoping to smuggle somethingnn
nn "Zyylee Wookiee Extraordinare - >nn<
rexan
Wed Apr 07, 2004 9:21 am
#16


I used to charge the 100% per slice. No longer.


I am so disillusioned with people’s response to our concerns with the Imperial crackdown that I no longer feel that slicing should be easy to get. The benefits for usingillegal modifiedweapons have to have somesort of cost. Since the Crackdown doesn't provide this disadvantage, I think the smugglers should provide it. I'm now charging 10k per slice. (discounts forbulk, i.e. 50k for a suit of armor)


I want players to be inconvenced for the benefit they receive from sliced weapons. Basically StGaberial convinced me that the player community needs to respect slicing more, rather than treating it as a commodity.


http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=smuggler&message.id=70685





Rexan Ryu
Master Smuggler
Flurry Server
Shaylin
Wed Apr 07, 2004 11:00 am
#17

I recently started a second character on Flurry and am going for Master Smuggler with her. Right now she has slicing 4 and spice 4 and is looking at years of pistol xp before she hits master.



I didn't think anyone wanted a smuggler under master lvl to slice their stuff, so I have never offered. Do non masters actually get slicing business?




Cressida


Jarkatoo
Wed Apr 07, 2004 11:03 am
#18

yeah i get bussiness all the time, i just dont charge full price do to the fact i am not a master yet.



nnJarkatoo Karkanan nn Elder Jedi Noob Againnn
nnJark T'oo nn still hoping to smuggle somethingnn
nn "Zyylee Wookiee Extraordinare - >nn<
DigiDante
Wed Apr 07, 2004 11:10 am
#19

Thank you all for posting and putting your thoughts into this post so far. I wouldn't mind meeting with everyone in game sometime, but we'll have to set a date way in advance.

We could discuss prices of spice, clamps, lasers, WUK's, AUK's ( for the ones of us that manufacture to sell ) and so forth. I personally am sick of crates of spice for 3k, but hell what can we do when our spices aren't worth to much to people...

Now onto listing Smugglers. I have compiled this list from what I have gathered in this post, I know the list will grow and grow, I'll try to keep it updated. If any of you know smugglers who aren't grinding, send me an email or post here and I'll add them to the list.

Flurry Smugglers

Selusa Secundus
Timothy Karrde
Jarkatooo Karkanan
Dak Roberts
Hoss
Deadtech
Bossov ( In game name? )
Ginjiro Glades
Andreas Kallesoee
Cressida
Ciretos
Cardinal
Si' Dorden
Walter Moonrider
Kazavana
Fynn Jaren
Av'e Bratt
Rexan Ryu
Aurorem Farseer
Lovi
Guillermo Veda
Balkstar Bartoc
Dwilk

Long live the Smugglers.

These names are to be contacted in the near future to possibly set up a meeting for us all to chat.

Message Edited by DigiDante on 04-11-2004 09:20 PM



Selusa Secundus - Elder Smuggler - September 2003.
Sheeana Secundus - Respec Jedi - Elder Carbineer @ heart.
Raylonis Del'Rathin - Elder Chef, Dancer - Retired / Canceled July 2005.
Leader of the fallen Guild, Veil of Silence.

Without the past, the future would never happen.
Believes in a better future for SWG.
Everytime a Rollback or Additional server thread is spawned SOE murders a kitten. Please... think of the kittens and stop this erradication.
Bossov
Wed Apr 07, 2004 12:12 pm
#20

I quit wearing my tag long ago. I got sick of meeting people to slice their "weaponS", which many times would mean a whopping 2. It just wasn't worth it any more, making chump change like that, just started doing missions if I needed some extra cash. I have never spammed around a starport either because that would be a big RP breaker for me, so there wasn't much of a way to compete with all those spammers. And there is no way in hell I'm going to match their "anything under 20% free" guarantees. There were also a few ignorant/rude customers who really turned me off to slicing for the public, and I haven't looked back since. Another thing that bothered me was putting the title up and constantly getting tells for training. I don't mind training people, but if you can't bother to type out the word "thanks" it real pisses me off. Nothing like missing your shuttle to train someone and getting a "thx" as they run away. Maybe when the holo crap is over I can safely wear the tag again and start slicing with increased prices.


As for increasing the prices I'm all for it. I think I'll do that if I ever put the title back up. In case I get random requests I might start doing the 200 creds per % or maybe even 500. Then again I hate doing math, so maybe 10k per slice isn't too bad hehe. But rememer, there are always going to be those that go against the grain and think doing 10 times the amount of work to make the same profit that they could on one job is a sound business decision. Just look at spice, I always want to kill someone for selling crates of Muon for 3k...I hope none of you guys do hehe.





Bossov Sla've
The Blonde Bomber
Ceritos
Wed Apr 07, 2004 1:32 pm
#21


I'm a master smuggler for a while now (I'm not hologrinding, and I will never hologrind), and I have no idea the exact amount I should charge for slicing. Everytime someone wants me to slice something, I always ALWAYS tell them that slice is completely random and there is no way for a smuggler to control it. I get pissed that people moan and whine when they get slice they don't want or get bad slices.

Personally, I'm opposed to quality of material and experimentation affect result of slice, I don't really want to pick up artisan and start harvesting since smugglers are not crafters, and if quality matters, some people will jack up price of resources and that will increase the price of slice, I prefer better slice results at master level, after all...master has to mean something...right? More than % increase, but far less chance of bad slices, or maybe let % of AUK and WUK matters since smuggler can't make them, and most smugglers probably buy it from other weaponsmith/armorsmith, but the % effectiveness must beshown when examined to avoid scams, trust me, i sawa BE label his additives at +87 but when examined, the actual bonus is only +78 or something.


For the moment, I'm only slicing for my armorsmith and weaponsmith friends, one pays me, and the other give me free weapon as payment

Message Edited by Ceritos on 04-07-2004 01:42 PM

MadDogdK
Wed Apr 07, 2004 2:23 pm
#22

there is no such thing as a bad slice, we make there weapon permenantly better by the % we slice if the result was not up to their expectations then bad luck we cant all win the lottery



Andreas Kallesoee Master Smuggler - Master Pistoleer of CSE
LoboBiZARro
Wed Apr 07, 2004 2:30 pm
#23

I just charge 5k/slice. When I do slice...




Norrek Guadalupe
Elder Smuggler
In service of Obsidian Alliance
- Starsider -


DigiDante
Wed Apr 07, 2004 2:30 pm
#24



MadDogdK wrote:
there is no such thing as a bad slice, we make there weapon permenantly better by the % we slice if the result was not up to their expectations then bad luck we cant all win the lottery





Not to be rude here... but you're getting off subject. How many times has what you said been stated in this post? And how many times in others... We all know this, and we all have our own opinions.



Selusa Secundus - Elder Smuggler - September 2003.
Sheeana Secundus - Respec Jedi - Elder Carbineer @ heart.
Raylonis Del'Rathin - Elder Chef, Dancer - Retired / Canceled July 2005.
Leader of the fallen Guild, Veil of Silence.

Without the past, the future would never happen.
Believes in a better future for SWG.
Everytime a Rollback or Additional server thread is spawned SOE murders a kitten. Please... think of the kittens and stop this erradication.
Cardinal4633
Wed Apr 07, 2004 2:38 pm
#25

pls add me to your list on known masters.i have been one for 5-6 months now and have no intentions of untraining any time soon.ive been very fortunate not to have had to spend much time slicing o/s starports.if given a choice i would rather seea set fee per slice be set as apposed to a % based fee.also ive been selling fp for the last couple weeks and cant believe that the standard is 115-125cr per fp for the amount ofwork that is needed to sell fp.i think this is a step in the right direction to help our profession on flurry and would be willing to abide by whatever the collective group decides.


Master Smuggler


Cardinal



Ceritos
Wed Apr 07, 2004 2:51 pm
#26

My in-game name is Ciretos, I made the typo while registering the forum.


Thanks


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