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DigiDante
Tue Apr 06, 2004 4:11 pm
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I'm curious what you all think about the current up in smuggler prices on other servers.

I have been an avid user of the 100 cr per % pricing.

Recently I've been charging 3-5k a slice. I believe slicing is taken way to lightly on Flurry. I love the slicing jobs in bulk and all, great money but I think it is being taken advantage of. Sliced vendors here and there, everyone always gets everything sliced, and they pay about what you pay for a small crate of powerups.

I'm with the idea of charging 10k a slice on small jobs, but I don't want to be the only smuggler doing it.

I'm requesting Flurry Smugglers to please post your thoughts here.

Message Edited by DigiDante on 04-12-2004 10:09 AM



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haun
Tue Apr 06, 2004 4:20 pm
#2

well as far as the game goes a good slice is more important than anything else in PVP - save maybe good armor. and we all know how much armor costs.



slicing is a long term affair and increases your performance for months - it's worth more than a few k here and there.



i don't like paying more money for things but i agree it's out of whack with the rest of the economy - but the rest of the economy is just out of whack due to duping, holocrons, and greedy armorsmiths.





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mjaesdtia
Tue Apr 06, 2004 4:38 pm
#3

hey selusa, my name is HOSS and i've been on flurry since launch, thats my main toon there but recently i started a 2nd account on flurry and making him a smuggler weaponsmith,name is lisro darklight, i'm 4/4/4/3 now and will master soon

i have sliced a few things already for some friends but didn't get nice slice i wanted so i try not to where my slicer tag to much yet

because i don't really want to disappoint people with bad slices


but from what i understand slicing results are random and even oq of our tools don't make a diff.correct me if i'm wrong.

since this is the case i'd hate to draw a bad slice on someones uber armor or weapon with no control and hear the whining afterwards becuase they spent alot on it,i think thats why people like to by the already sliced stuff because they know what there getting


but i agree that an awesome slice in invalueable, i just wish the devs can do something better for us at master to have higher chances of a nice slice and make the better quality tools make a diff.


i'm still learning this proff. so i hope to see some enjoyment out of it





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Spyderian
Tue Apr 06, 2004 4:56 pm
#4

I am not a Smuggler, but I will give my 82 cents on this situation. Slicing IS the most important player mod in the game (with the exception of Doctor Buffs). I honestly think the smugglers should be charging 1K per point sliced. (maybe less for bulk jobs). I know many players will give a ton of money to a smuggler for a sick slice on a powerful weapon - I remember my smuggler friend being paid 150K for a 35% damage slice on a Krayte Scatter. but overall you guys should band together and charge more - and 100credits per faction point isn't enough either - I used to sell for 125credits minimum. Selling faction points is one of the most boring things you can do in SWG - you should make a ton of money doing it.


So to paraphrase - Charge way more - you guys are underappreciated, underpayed, and hell -- YOU SHOULD BE PISSED THAT THEY WHIMPED PANIC SHOT -- (make them all pay )


Thats all





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Pahdbacca
Tue Apr 06, 2004 5:06 pm
#5

Good idea but I'm kinda with spyderian. We should increase slice prices but can't sharge 10k for a 15%speed slice on an FWG.


I'll keep an eye on this thread.


BTW, I don't really slice for the public anymore, just slice for the smiths and they generally pay me more than the 100 credits per.





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Deadtech
Tue Apr 06, 2004 5:33 pm
#6

I've been slicing for about a month now and I agree that 100 creds per % is a bit low. I can make more creds doing missions. So to change this and try to make a living at slicing I've been day by day increasing my 100 creds per % to 150 creds to 200 creds to 350 creds to 500 creds. When someone is desperate to go hunt and you're the only one around witha master tag they won't argue. So now ifI hit that sweet 35% damage slice I get 17500. And don't let me tell you what I can get for a full suit of composite. Now I think the goal of increasing a slice cost should go up to 1k per % but always remember there will be a non-union smuggler out there that will charge less. Most likely a grinder. I seem to be able to hold taht 500 but we should all band together and bring it up to 1k.


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DigiDante
Tue Apr 06, 2004 6:20 pm
#7

I agree charging 10k for a crappy slice is bad, heck Ill sometimes not charge someone if I get a bad slice.

It is all up to the slicer ya see....

My real question is " What is everyone charging, and what would we all be willing to settle for? "



Deadtech wrote:

Now I think the goal of increasing a slice cost should go up to 1k per % but always remember there will be a non-union smuggler out there that will charge less. Most likely a grinder. I seem to be able to hold taht 500 but we should all band together and bring it up to 1k.

Deadtech
Master Smuggler and spice pusher





500 cr / % would be sweet... but it would be hella expensive for a buncha high end slices It would mean that it would draw us business from people with littler amounts of money. They only have enough money for 3/5 slices, so they go out run more missions come back, and we try our hand at it again. I like that aspect.



Spyderian wrote:

So to paraphrase - Charge way more - you guys are underappreciated, underpayed, and hell -- YOU SHOULD BE PISSED THAT THEY WHIMPED PANIC SHOT -- (make them all pay )

Thats all






That made me laugh a long time

Message Edited by DigiDante on 04-06-2004 06:28 PM



Selusa Secundus - Elder Smuggler - September 2003.
Sheeana Secundus - Respec Jedi - Elder Carbineer @ heart.
Raylonis Del'Rathin - Elder Chef, Dancer - Retired / Canceled July 2005.
Leader of the fallen Guild, Veil of Silence.

Without the past, the future would never happen.
Believes in a better future for SWG.
Everytime a Rollback or Additional server thread is spawned SOE murders a kitten. Please... think of the kittens and stop this erradication.
Jandel-Har
Tue Apr 06, 2004 6:48 pm
#8


I have stopped slicing for the general public, because it has gotten out of hand. I feel more like a weapon upgrade-smith rather than a smuggler. I am thinking of taking it back up however charging 10k per item, no bulk discount. As far as giving a"bad" slice for free, there is no such thing as a bad slice, it is still better than it was when you gave it to me. Anyone else care to join me? If we all work together on this we can put slicing backwhere it belongs , in the alleys and dark corners of cantinas , and away from the starport and the prying eyes of the Empire.


Ok so I get a little worked up about this subject, but I feel we are getting taken advantage of If you slice a 100k weapon(no weapon is worth that in my book) it becomes worth 50k to 100k more and you got paid 2500 credits for it. It's not out of greed, I have plenty of cash.


Almost forgot , with the holocraps going away it should do away with all but who really wnat to be smugglers.

Message Edited by Jandel-Har on 04-06-2004 07:25 PM



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DigiDante
Tue Apr 06, 2004 8:06 pm
#9



Jandel-Har wrote:

I have stopped slicing for the general public, because it has gotten out of hand. I feel more like a weapon upgrade-smith rather than a smuggler. I am thinking of taking it back up however charging 10k per item, no bulk discount. As far as giving a"bad" slice for free, there is no such thing as a bad slice, it is still better than it was when you gave it to me. Anyone else care to join me? If we all work together on this we can put slicing backwhere it belongs , in the alleys and dark corners of cantinas , and away from the starport and the prying eyes of the Empire.

Ok so I get a little worked up about this subject, but I feel we are getting taken advantage of If you slice a 100k weapon(no weapon is worth that in my book) it becomes worth 50k to 100k more and you got paid 2500 credits for it. It's not out of greed, I have plenty of cash.

Almost forgot , with the holocraps going away it should do away with all but who really wnat to be smugglers.

Message Edited by Jandel-Har on 04-06-2004 07:25 PM






You and I are thinking on the same train here.

However, about the "bad slice" I feel bad myself for an 11-15% slice, and give those away for free because I feel bad.

But yes, We need to all discuss and put in what we think we should do..

I'm up for the 10k a slice.



Selusa Secundus - Elder Smuggler - September 2003.
Sheeana Secundus - Respec Jedi - Elder Carbineer @ heart.
Raylonis Del'Rathin - Elder Chef, Dancer - Retired / Canceled July 2005.
Leader of the fallen Guild, Veil of Silence.

Without the past, the future would never happen.
Believes in a better future for SWG.
Everytime a Rollback or Additional server thread is spawned SOE murders a kitten. Please... think of the kittens and stop this erradication.
Korebendallas
Tue Apr 06, 2004 9:36 pm
#10

Before I utterly destroyed and deleted my smuggler *Koreben Dallas* I was charging 500 credits per slice because I got tired of doing it for the uninformed public. I would CONSTANTLY get tells with questions like *but dude I want it for damage and encum blah blah blah* Typical crap...so I just stopped. People still paid though..I was just tired of waiting and waiting for smugglers to get fixed. I made most of my cash selling cheap spice. Chrage as high as you want honestly. Money is such a ridiculous commodity anyone can dole out the bills for a slice.
TyrShadowrunner
Tue Apr 06, 2004 10:30 pm
#11


I'm not a smuggler, but I've been running around with this damned Wookie armor for nearly a week with no Masters in sight. I've come across a few who are afk, a couple who just LD's and one who was in a rush. You guys are hard to find so yeah I think its a great idea to charge more and run around with the Master Tag on. I would recommend some type of charging scale dependent on how good the slice is. Maybe anything under 20% charge the same as before (100 credits per %), 20-25% 7 or 8k?, 25-30% 9 or 10k? Anything above 30% 15k. Obviously, these numbers can be worked a little bit to whatever you guys want, but I'd recommend something like this to avoid the whining of bad slices. Heck i'd pay top dollar for a 30+ slice which btw no one has been able to do for me yet.

The only thing that worries me is getting a slice that I don't really want. Like, getting a vibroknuck sliced for speed, armor getting sliced for effect when its already high enough. Or any of these variations, I would be alittle bummed if I got a 1.9 speed vibroknuck sliced for 31% speed and have to pay the 10-15k.

Now, I see that you compared slicing with buffs and it is only fairthat we charge more because the customers know what they will recieve now. With Smugglers it is still a roll of the dice. I was a smuggler way before I was a Doc and the reason I switched was partly due to the crappy randomness of slicing. It didn't matter if you were a Master or a Novice. The only thing that changed while going up the tree is your maximum slice. I know its frustrating, but get the Smuggler correspondent to try to get it put on the list of things to look at.Stranger things have happened! (Wookie Armor:smileywink



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HappyDictates
Wed Apr 07, 2004 2:26 am
#12

i agree that the price per slice is a bit low. i have stopped carrying around slicing equipment on me because the time it takes me to meet the customer and tell them the slice numbers isnt worth it anymore. i only do bulk slicing now (usually no less than 100 items) for 2k a slice. still fairly low, but it pays the bills and gets me the occasional really nice set of armor

but like i said, the price of casual street slicing is too low for my time. until i see an increase in what people will pay, i will not carry around slicing equipment and will have to continually reply with my "/r sorry, i dont carry slicing equipment."



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MadDogdK
Wed Apr 07, 2004 5:23 am
#13

hmmm better bump my prices to 5K pr slice and make some kind of packege deal on armor that is a bit more expencive



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