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Thread: Should I feel guilty for giving a bad slice?

Kebron
Thu Jun 24, 2004 6:28 am
#14






Bosyn-Dallas wrote:

This brings up a chuckle I had last night. I'm sitting in Spamonet with my Master tag up, I was testing to see how people would react to my new pricing structions 300cr per % when I'm in Coronet 500cr per % at all other times.


So I get a tell:


RandomGuy#1: Heycan you slice weapons?(Why do they always ask this)


Me: Sure my pricing structure is 300cr per % per item.


RG#1: How good are you? (Once again why?)


Me: I'm as good as any other Master Smuggler, I use Molecular Clamps so I guarantee 100% success rates.


RG#1: So can you guarantee me a GOOD slice.


Me: Sorry hoss, I can't guarantee anything other than I'll be successful on my slicing attempt. Everything after that is 100% random. Anyone who tells you differently is either lieing or scamming.


RG#1: Well I used to be a Master Smuggler and I knew how to guarantee my slices. Your sucha NEWB LOLOLOL


Me: *sigh* /addignore.







Reminds me of a similar situation I ran into.



Client: Can you slice my weapon for speed?


Me: I can slice yes but I can't garanty a speed slice. It's totaly random


Client: oh ok


Me: My price is 100 credits per %


Client: For a speed slice?


Me: I told you I can't garanty a speed slice, no smugglers can.


Client: oh ok


Me: So you still want a slice?


Client: Yes, speed slice please


Me: I just told you it's 100% random there's nothing I can do about that


Client: Oh ok, here's my weapon


*opens trade and gives me the weapon*


Me: ok I got it. Starting your slice


Client: Coll, speed please.


Me: what part of it's random and I can't choose didn't you get?


Client: Oh ok sorry


*I slice the weapon and get a 31% damage slice*


Me: 31% damages, that will be 3100 credits please


Client You **edit**er I said I wanted a speed slice you dumb **edit** **edit** **edit** **edit**


Me: and I kept telling you that I CAN'T CONTROL THE SLICE IT'S RANDOM!!!


Client: Well I'm not paying you **edit**. Give me my weapon back you **edit**.


Me: Sorry but you don't pay I keep it.


Client: DON'T GET XYON TO SLICE YOUR STUFF!!! HE'S A LIER' A SCAMER AND A THIEF!!!!





Xyon Calhoun Imperial Colonel, Master Smuggler, Pistoleer, TKA and Smuggler Alliance Ace Pilot on Kauri
Si-Cwan Master Nothing on Kauri (2nd account)
Sir-Apropos of-Nothing Master Musician and Swordsman (soon to be Jedi) on Kauri (3rd account)
All proud citizens of the city of Pride on Lok
-- Basically, I believe in peace and bashing two bricks together.
chown2
Thu Jun 24, 2004 7:29 am
#15



Jandel-Har wrote:
Whats a bad slice?



That's where you cut the wrong wire.




Master Chown Darkcloud Smuggler

"I have a gaderiffi and a stun but no gaffi sticks. Sorry" - Chown






Frans_Solo
Thu Jun 24, 2004 7:30 am
#16



Kebron wrote:


Bosyn-Dallas wrote:
This brings up a chuckle I had last night. I'm sitting in Spamonet with my Master tag up, I was testing to see how people would react to my new pricing structions 300cr per % when I'm in Coronet 500cr per % at all other times.
So I get a tell:
RandomGuy#1: Heycan you slice weapons?(Why do they always ask this)
Me: Sure my pricing structure is 300cr per % per item.
RG#1: How good are you? (Once again why?)
Me: I'm as good as any other Master Smuggler, I use Molecular Clamps so I guarantee 100% success rates.
RG#1: So can you guarantee me a GOOD slice.
Me: Sorry hoss, I can't guarantee anything other than I'll be successful on my slicing attempt. Everything after that is 100% random. Anyone who tells you differently is either lieing or scamming.
RG#1: Well I used to be a Master Smuggler and I knew how to guarantee my slices. Your sucha NEWB LOLOLOL
Me: *sigh* /addignore.



Reminds me of a similar situation I ran into.

Client: Can you slice my weapon for speed?

Me: I can slice yes but I can't garanty a speed slice. It's totaly random

Client: oh ok

Me: My price is 100 credits per %

Client: For a speed slice?

Me: I told you I can't garanty a speed slice, no smugglers can.

Client: oh ok

Me: So you still want a slice?

Client: Yes, speed slice please

Me: I just told you it's 100% random there's nothing I can do about that

Client: Oh ok, here's my weapon

*opens trade and gives me the weapon*

Me: ok I got it. Starting your slice

Client: Coll, speed please.

Me: what part of it's random and I can't choose didn't you get?

Client: Oh ok sorry

*I slice the weapon and get a 31% damage slice*

Me: 31% damages, that will be 3100 credits please

Client You **edit**er I said I wanted a speed slice you dumb **edit** **edit** **edit** **edit**

Me: and I kept telling you that I CAN'T CONTROL THE SLICE IT'S RANDOM!!!

Client: Well I'm not paying you **edit**. Give me my weapon back you **edit**.

Me: Sorry but you don't pay I keep it.

Client: DON'T GET XYON TO SLICE YOUR STUFF!!! HE'S A LIER' A SCAMER AND A THIEF!!!!







Just a sidenote, I noticed alot of Kauri smugglers still charging the old rate of 100cr per %. Why? Everything else has gone up in the game, why are yall still giving away slices for such a minimal profit? I charge 5k per slice now and still get alot of business.

We should unionize!



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Bosyn-Dallas
Thu Jun 24, 2004 7:36 am
#17








Just a sidenote, I noticed alot of Kauri smugglers still charging the old rate of 100cr per %. Why? Everything else has gone up in the game, why are yall still giving away slices for such a minimal profit? I charge 5k per slice now and still get alot of business.

We should unionize!





LOL


Honestly this is a broken record. What I do on tempest is make sure everyone knows about the discussions here on the board and let them make their own decision. I still make GOBloads of credits with my pricing structure, I just don't want to see anyone screw themselves.



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JediArashi
Thu Jun 24, 2004 7:58 am
#18

I think you got your answer OB540, don't sweat it!


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Bloodfin



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Kebron
Thu Jun 24, 2004 8:02 am
#19






Frans_Solo wrote:





Kebron wrote:





Bosyn-Dallas wrote:

This brings up a chuckle I had last night. I'm sitting in Spamonet with my Master tag up, I was testing to see how people would react to my new pricing structions 300cr per % when I'm in Coronet 500cr per % at all other times.


So I get a tell:


RandomGuy#1: Heycan you slice weapons?(Why do they always ask this)


Me: Sure my pricing structure is 300cr per % per item.


RG#1: How good are you? (Once again why?)


Me: I'm as good as any other Master Smuggler, I use Molecular Clamps so I guarantee 100% success rates.


RG#1: So can you guarantee me a GOOD slice.


Me: Sorry hoss, I can't guarantee anything other than I'll be successful on my slicing attempt. Everything after that is 100% random. Anyone who tells you differently is either lieing or scamming.


RG#1: Well I used to be a Master Smuggler and I knew how to guarantee my slices. Your sucha NEWB LOLOLOL


Me: *sigh* /addignore.







Reminds me of a similar situation I ran into.



Client: Can you slice my weapon for speed?


Me: I can slice yes but I can't garanty a speed slice. It's totaly random


Client: oh ok


Me: My price is 100 credits per %


Client: For a speed slice?


Me: I told you I can't garanty a speed slice, no smugglers can.


Client: oh ok


Me: So you still want a slice?


Client: Yes, speed slice please


Me: I just told you it's 100% random there's nothing I can do about that


Client: Oh ok, here's my weapon


*opens trade and gives me the weapon*


Me: ok I got it. Starting your slice


Client: Coll, speed please.


Me: what part of it's random and I can't choose didn't you get?


Client: Oh ok sorry


*I slice the weapon and get a 31% damage slice*


Me: 31% damages, that will be 3100 credits please


Client You **edit**er I said I wanted a speed slice you dumb **edit** **edit** **edit** **edit**


Me: and I kept telling you that I CAN'T CONTROL THE SLICE IT'S RANDOM!!!


Client: Well I'm not paying you **edit**. Give me my weapon back you **edit**.


Me: Sorry but you don't pay I keep it.


Client: DON'T GET XYON TO SLICE YOUR STUFF!!! HE'S A LIER' A SCAMER AND A THIEF!!!!










Just a sidenote, I noticed alot of Kauri smugglers still charging the old rate of 100cr per %. Why? Everything else has gone up in the game, why are yall still giving away slices for such a minimal profit? I charge 5k per slice now and still get alot of business.

We should unionize!





I still charge 100 credits per % because I'm not in it for the money and to me it seems like a fair price. I will always be a smuggler and I will always slice at 100 credits per %


I will never tell anyone how to price their slices tho. I personaly believe that everyone has a right to price their services as they see fit. I will also never compete with a smuggler. Meaning if there is a smuggler advertizing a price high than mine I will not start spaming that I slice cheaper over him. I will simply find another spot.



Xyon Calhoun Imperial Colonel, Master Smuggler, Pistoleer, TKA and Smuggler Alliance Ace Pilot on Kauri
Si-Cwan Master Nothing on Kauri (2nd account)
Sir-Apropos of-Nothing Master Musician and Swordsman (soon to be Jedi) on Kauri (3rd account)
All proud citizens of the city of Pride on Lok
-- Basically, I believe in peace and bashing two bricks together.
Kebron
Thu Jun 24, 2004 8:04 am
#20






chown2 wrote:





Jandel-Har wrote:

Whats a bad slice?





That's where you cut the wrong wire.






No a bad slice is when you get a slice with a low %. Like a 15% slice.



Some Smugglers will slice for free is the slice is bellow 20%. I don't. I don't control the slice results so why should I be the one punished if the % is low? You want a slice then you should know that it may not come out as good as you wanted and you should accept it and pay if it does.




Xyon Calhoun Imperial Colonel, Master Smuggler, Pistoleer, TKA and Smuggler Alliance Ace Pilot on Kauri
Si-Cwan Master Nothing on Kauri (2nd account)
Sir-Apropos of-Nothing Master Musician and Swordsman (soon to be Jedi) on Kauri (3rd account)
All proud citizens of the city of Pride on Lok
-- Basically, I believe in peace and bashing two bricks together.
Drango
Thu Jun 24, 2004 8:29 am
#21

Bah, just tell them 30% damage every time you get a damage slice.. No one ever double checks your statement. That would be bad now wouldn't it. Distrust of slicers could possible bring attention to the Devs that the slicing model needs to be altered.



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Jandel-Har
Thu Jun 24, 2004 9:18 am
#22






Kebron wrote:





chown2 wrote:





Jandel-Har wrote:

Whats a bad slice?





That's where you cut the wrong wire.






No a bad slice is when you get a slice with a low %. Like a 15% slice.



Some Smugglers will slice for free is the slice is bellow 20%. I don't. I don't control the slice results so why should I be the one punished if the % is low? You want a slice then you should know that it may not come out as good as you wanted and you should accept it and pay if it does.







!5% hell even 11% is better than when you started.



Just Dak - Flurry
chown2
Thu Jun 24, 2004 9:38 am
#23



Jandel-Har wrote:


Kebron wrote:


chown2 wrote:


Jandel-Har wrote:
Whats a bad slice?



That's where you cut the wrong wire.


No a bad slice is when you get a slice with a low %. Like a 15% slice.

Some Smugglers will slice for free is the slice is bellow 20%. I don't. I don't control the slice results so why should I be the one punished if the % is low? You want a slice then you should know that it may not come out as good as you wanted and you should accept it and pay if it does.




!5% hell even 11% is better than when you started.


Exactly my point. If/when you cut the wrong wire, then you should feel guilty.




Master Chown Darkcloud Smuggler

"I have a gaderiffi and a stun but no gaffi sticks. Sorry" - Chown






GarfBiocap
Thu Jun 24, 2004 11:26 am
#24






OB540 wrote:

For some reason, most the the "uber" stuff I slice is terrible!

Most of the Scythes and krayt weapons I slice get like 17-20% speed!


There really should be a low-cap for these exceptional items, I even have people that wont look to me for slicing now.


When I slice crates of weapons ( like 150 items at once ) the average is 25-28%, I think ive only sliced a krayt weapon 25% damage once.


Is it normal to get a low slice on a super weapon?





I sliced 3 enhanced VKs last night, they had a +20, +26 and +26 vibro motor on them.


VK w/ +20 - 25% spd = 1.6 speed 35-165 dmg


VK w/ +26 - 26% dmg = 45-215 dmg


VK w/ +26 - 23% dmg = 44-210 dmg


I think these are good slices, and funny that the two high dmg vibro motors got dmg slices also.


Jivock (Garf's Alt)










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Zinje, Dantooine
JTGAlpha
Thu Jun 24, 2004 1:18 pm
#25

I just shrug and remind them that it's random. **edit** all you want. I've got your gun.



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quietboy
Thu Jun 24, 2004 2:30 pm
#26

just sliced someone suit of armor earlier today. All 9 pieces ended up getting encumberence slices!? Ranging from 28-42%!! Guy had the gall to complain, albiet half-heartedly, that he was hoping for an effectiveness slice!? Had to shake my head at that one, why can't people just be happy with whatever improvements we give their guns/armor?? I wasn't too mad though. After calculating the total price (250 cr per %), he owed me 102,000 credits. Not bad for 3 minutes of work huh?



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