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Temujin23

Wed Jul 13, 2005 1:30 am

riotcontrol wrote:

Any links perhaps? I'd very much like to see what's being talked about here.

I'm guessing that if this ever was documented, it's now sharing an apartment somewherewith Elvis and the lost Holocron document that detailed all the exciting changes in store for the Ranger profession. Can I get some of that pie?

al-djinn'i

Master Ranger

Wake up! Time to die.

SudoBendu

Wed Jul 13, 2005 7:48 am

#15

I found this:

http://crystaltips.typepad.com/wonderland/2005/03/raphs_keynote.html

no idea how to make a clicky.

---Sudo Bendu---

Ashla Network

Freehold, Naboo

SWG murdered my muse

AngusMacGregor

Wed Jul 13, 2005 7:51 am

#16

Here.

Clicky

"C O L O N E L A N G U S" M A C G R E G O R

DEAD SMUGGLER - KILLED BY LACK OF CONTENT AND COMMUNICATION

I am Jack's ignored profession.

My account payment has been moved to a long term implementation.

SpinningCloud

Wed Jul 13, 2005 8:36 am

#17

Interesting, if not a bit random, read.

But not the doc I'm refering to. This was years ago...maybe six or seven...at a GDC. It was a PowerPoint type presentation.

Sorry I don't have time to research it atm.

Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie, Two years of "Soon"(TM), a harsh bunch of lies.
Ask me a riddle and I reply: "Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie"

Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie, Dancers can't smuggle and neither can I.
Ask me a riddle and I reply: "Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie."

Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie, Why are there Jedi, I don't know why.
Ask me a riddle and I reply: "Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie."

GanymedePharuu

Wed Jul 13, 2005 8:45 am

#18

can anyone find this Koster talk? i've been looking a bit, but i have work to do so i can't look too much.

i'd really be interested in reading it...

can anyone give a brief summary of what he was saying in it?

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Kohs V'sto
I wanted Smuggling for Christmas
but all i got was
<--- this stupid hat.
I am Jack's ignored profession.
Luke Skywalker is DEAD!

AngusMacGregor

Wed Jul 13, 2005 8:50 am

#19

I think you can find it somewhere on www.legendmud.org/raph/

My company has restricted access... so I can't look there.

"C O L O N E L A N G U S" M A C G R E G O R

DEAD SMUGGLER - KILLED BY LACK OF CONTENT AND COMMUNICATION

I am Jack's ignored profession.

My account payment has been moved to a long term implementation.

GanymedePharuu

Wed Jul 13, 2005 9:29 am

#20

i've been through that site. i didn't notice any talks or essays about how game developers should treat their customers. any idea what the talk was titled? or any key words i can google besides "raph koster"?

cccccccccccccccccccc
Kohs V'sto
I wanted Smuggling for Christmas
but all i got was
<--- this stupid hat.
I am Jack's ignored profession.
Luke Skywalker is DEAD!

AngusMacGregor

Wed Jul 13, 2005 9:31 am

#21

Dunno. I just know he kept most of his idiotic ramblings there.

"C O L O N E L A N G U S" M A C G R E G O R

DEAD SMUGGLER - KILLED BY LACK OF CONTENT AND COMMUNICATION

I am Jack's ignored profession.

My account payment has been moved to a long term implementation.

Antonnio

Wed Jul 13, 2005 9:37 am

#22

Hey Devs,

Yeah... come here a moment... yeah, closer... I need to whisper something in your ear. It won't take long... yeah.

"LET US SMUGGLE!"

Yeah, that is all.

Smuggler4LifeSmuggler4LifeSmug  |
gler4LifeSmuggler4LifeSmuggler  | Antonnio J. Rossi
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eSmuggler4LifeSmuggler4LifeSmu  | For Profit Only
ggler4LifeSmuggler4LifeSmuggle  | *   *   *
r4LifeSmuggler4LifeSmuggler4Li  |  
feSmuggler4LifeSmuggler4LifeSm  | My Holonet Page
uggler4LifeSmuggler4LifeSmuggl  |
er4LifeSmuggler4LifeSmuggler4L  | We're made to suffer. It's our lot in life.

GanymedePharuu

Wed Jul 13, 2005 9:43 am

#23

AngusMacGregor wrote:
Dunno. I just know he kept most of his idiotic ramblings there.

hehe yeah i've read most of it... i dunno, i'm sorta on the fence about raph's ideas.

i mean, he makes some valid points, but he is definitely lofty in his ideals. he also likes to talk A LOT about vague ideas, and doesn't really seem to get down to the nitty gritty of actual game design mechanics.

he's definitely a strange guy. and case in point SWG is a game that did not fulfill its potential under his watch.
whether it was his fault, or the fault of the people at Lucas Arts is unknown to me.

Message Edited by GanymedePharuu on 07-13-2005 09:44 AM

cccccccccccccccccccc
Kohs V'sto
I wanted Smuggling for Christmas
but all i got was
<--- this stupid hat.
I am Jack's ignored profession.
Luke Skywalker is DEAD!

AngusMacGregor

Wed Jul 13, 2005 9:46 am

#24

What I got out of his ramblings is this... he knows how to make a game that can make money for the Developers, but he has no clue how to make one to make loyal players happy. Subscriber turnover, in his mind, is a good thing.

I just wish that one of these days a game developer would make a game that I can enjoy, and who will actually care if I'm having a good time or not.

"C O L O N E L A N G U S" M A C G R E G O R

DEAD SMUGGLER - KILLED BY LACK OF CONTENT AND COMMUNICATION

I am Jack's ignored profession.

My account payment has been moved to a long term implementation.

SpinningCloud

Wed Jul 13, 2005 10:30 am

#25

AngusMacGregor wrote:

I just wish that one of these days a game developer would make a game that I can enjoy, and who will actually care if I'm having a good time or not.

QF-F'ing-E

Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie, Two years of "Soon"(TM), a harsh bunch of lies.
Ask me a riddle and I reply: "Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie"

Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie, Dancers can't smuggle and neither can I.
Ask me a riddle and I reply: "Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie."

Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie, Why are there Jedi, I don't know why.
Ask me a riddle and I reply: "Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie."

Starstrider6

Wed Jul 13, 2005 10:54 am

#26

GanymedePharuu wrote:
i've been through that site. i didn't notice any talks or essays about how game developers should treat their customers. any idea what the talk was titled? or any key words i can google besides "raph koster"?

From Raph? His idea of customer service is to solicit feedback on an idea, implement the worst possible (yet most easily programmed) ideas, then tell the players he did exactly what they wanted and act confused over player anger.

Do I like Raph Koster? No. If sense was TNT I don't think Raph could generate a popcorn fart. I think the man lacks the courage to stand up for good ideas (See: 1 player per account, no "alt" if your character decides to become a Jedi - a pre-beta plan as part of "Jedi control") and implements the worst possible systems (See: PvP screwups in UO and SWG).

any key words i can google besides "raph koster"?

Please, PLEASE don't leave me openings like that! I actually do like being able to post on these forums.

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