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Thread: In light of recent events, I propose a Suicide Pact. (Not real suicide, it's a metaphor)

maxtheusher
Thu Jul 14, 2005 10:29 am
#14

This isn't over you--I mean... him.

It's over smuggling.



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GanymedePharuu
Thu Jul 14, 2005 10:32 am
#15



riotcontrol wrote:
I somehow doubt the hypothetical protest would be any larger than the CURB protests, and you know how much good those did.




he's right, sorta... but the CU actually improved the game.

we're gonna protest over a lack of improving the game. and we should include the entertainers, rangers, squad leaders, and all other nerfed/neglegted proffesions in our fight.



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but all i got was
<--- this stupid hat.

I am Jack's ignored profession.
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SpinningCloud
Thu Jul 14, 2005 10:34 am
#16






TatharLB wrote:

WoW is looking better and better every minute. Even EQ2 is better than this and I leftit to come back to SWG!


*sigh*


To be fair I did come in, in the middle of all this crap too. I don't know what it has been like for the past year since I left SWG the first time.





EQ is still their product. I will NEVER buy another Sony product. I can fulfill my needs from their competitors just fine.




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Ask me a riddle and I reply: "Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie"

Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie, Dancers can't smuggle and neither can I.
Ask me a riddle and I reply: "Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie."

Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie, Why are there Jedi, I don't know why.
Ask me a riddle and I reply: "Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie."

GanymedePharuu
Thu Jul 14, 2005 10:37 am
#17



SpinningCloud wrote:


TatharLB wrote:
WoW is looking better and better every minute. Even EQ2 is better than this and I leftit to come back to SWG!
*sigh*
To be fair I did come in, in the middle of all this crap too. I don't know what it has been like for the past year since I left SWG the first time.



EQ is still their product. I will NEVER buy another Sony product. I can fulfill my needs from their competitors just fine.





so let's talk about our other options in the MMORPG genre...

there's WoW... i don't like swords and orc very much, especially when it looks all cartoony.
there's CoH... i don't want to wear tights. and the game just sounds limited.

there's MxO... i heard it's kinda lame. and they killed off Morpheus already?

what else is there out there?



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Kohs V'sto
I wanted Smuggling for Christmas
but all i got was
<--- this stupid hat.

I am Jack's ignored profession.
Luke Skywalker is DEAD!
maxtheusher
Thu Jul 14, 2005 10:37 am
#18



SpinningCloud wrote:


TatharLB wrote:
WoW is looking better and better every minute. Even EQ2 is better than this and I leftit to come back to SWG!
*sigh*
To be fair I did come in, in the middle of all this crap too. I don't know what it has been like for the past year since I left SWG the first time.



EQ is still their product. I will NEVER buy another Sony product. I can fulfill my needs from their competitors just fine.





If I'm not playing SWG, I'll be sure to get through to everyone, let em know what WoW server I'm playing on.

Never thought I'd say that...



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maxtheusher
Thu Jul 14, 2005 10:38 am
#19

Oh yea, and I'll be playing rogue in that game



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Antonnio
Thu Jul 14, 2005 10:41 am
#20

Perhaps we will all meet again... In City of Heroes!

/shudders

I cannot believe I am thinking like this. I would hate to leave SWG, but if I don't see why I should stay.



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Gaitan
Thu Jul 14, 2005 10:42 am
#21






maxtheusher wrote:



So, we're moving up to 7 day bans now for them not liking us...

I have a proposal.

If Smuggling, when/if it does come, isn't anything close to what we as players want out of it, we give them 24 HOURS to acknowledge that it is a problem, and after they acknowledge it, ONE WEEK to produce results.

If they fail to do either of these things, I propose we ALL (we can't do it if there's scabs) stage a massive protest in the smuggler forums, AND in game, to the point we all get banned in both arenas.

(now personally, if smuggling is screwed up I'm probably going to consider retiring keck anyway, so it's not a huge sacrifice for me )

But, the large, sudden loss of players should say something to the Devs, and we all know that massive bannings for no GOOD reason catch the critical eye of of the press.

So to sum up, Smuggler gets completely ruined. The Devs refuse to do anything about it in a timely fashion. For me, at least, the game is COMPLETELY not worth my time any more. I protest, get banned, and if enough people do the same, we draw attention to ourselves.

Worst thing that could happen? You retire a toon, and either turn to a new account, an alt, or leave the game entirely. Best thing that could happen, they do something positive in response to widespread criticism against them.



thought I'd add this: If we can track down some more infamous types, get some of the 4 horsemen etc. to reactivate their accounts, just to do this, then we could move the symbolism from, "angst-ridden", up to "tragic."


Edited for strictness


Message Edited by maxtheusher on 07-14-2005 01:11 PM





I'm surprised that for all the writing people do on these forums no one has hit upon the tried and true method of getting results.



Letter writing.



Sure, cancel your accounts and hit them in the pocketbook. In addition, send letters to the corporate offices of Lucas Arts and Sony Online, explaining that you canceled your account(s) and why, and that you have no intention of buying any product from them again as long as their Customer support and treatment remains so poor.


Also, send letters - LOTS of them - to game magazines, emails to the online sites, etc. Give details why you're not playing a game like SWG any more. Get the negative publicity rolling and force the corporate heads to start taking notice of what the kids in the computer room are doing.


Anyone with any knowledge of marketing will tell you that if you like a product, you will give word of mouth advertising to 5 people. Don't like it? You'll tell 20.


Get the facts about how posters like Angus got banned for asking for something that has been promised for years. Put SOE and most of all the people running this forum on the defensive. Make them feel the pain.






Gaitan
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Antonnio
Thu Jul 14, 2005 10:45 am
#22

Letter writing is a good idea Gaitan.



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riotcontrol
Thu Jul 14, 2005 10:58 am
#23



GanymedePharuu wrote:


SpinningCloud wrote:


TatharLB wrote:
WoW is looking better and better every minute. Even EQ2 is better than this and I left it to come back to SWG!
*sigh*
To be fair I did come in, in the middle of all this crap too. I don't know what it has been like for the past year since I left SWG the first time.



EQ is still their product. I will NEVER buy another Sony product. I can fulfill my needs from their competitors just fine.





so let's talk about our other options in the MMORPG genre...

there's WoW... i don't like swords and orc very much, especially when it looks all cartoony.
there's CoH... i don't want to wear tights. and the game just sounds limited.

there's MxO... i heard it's kinda lame. and they killed off Morpheus already?

what else is there out there?




EVE?



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GanymedePharuu
Thu Jul 14, 2005 11:01 am
#24



riotcontrol wrote:


GanymedePharuu wrote:


SpinningCloud wrote:


TatharLB wrote:
WoW is looking better and better every minute. Even EQ2 is better than this and I left it to come back to SWG!
*sigh*
To be fair I did come in, in the middle of all this crap too. I don't know what it has been like for the past year since I left SWG the first time.



EQ is still their product. I will NEVER buy another Sony product. I can fulfill my needs from their competitors just fine.





so let's talk about our other options in the MMORPG genre...

there's WoW... i don't like swords and orc very much, especially when it looks all cartoony.
there's CoH... i don't want to wear tights. and the game just sounds limited.

there's MxO... i heard it's kinda lame. and they killed off Morpheus already?

what else is there out there?




EVE?




Eve actually sounds fun... is it still up and running? and is it still populated?



cccccccccccccccccccc
Kohs V'sto
I wanted Smuggling for Christmas
but all i got was
<--- this stupid hat.

I am Jack's ignored profession.
Luke Skywalker is DEAD!
maxtheusher
Thu Jul 14, 2005 11:06 am
#25



riotcontrol wrote:


GanymedePharuu wrote:


SpinningCloud wrote:


TatharLB wrote:
WoW is looking better and better every minute. Even EQ2 is better than this and I left it to come back to SWG!
*sigh*
To be fair I did come in, in the middle of all this crap too. I don't know what it has been like for the past year since I left SWG the first time.



EQ is still their product. I will NEVER buy another Sony product. I can fulfill my needs from their competitors just fine.





so let's talk about our other options in the MMORPG genre...

there's WoW... i don't like swords and orc very much, especially when it looks all cartoony.
there's CoH... i don't want to wear tights. and the game just sounds limited.

there's MxO... i heard it's kinda lame. and they killed off Morpheus already?

what else is there out there?




EVE?




/sigh
it's gonna be WoW for me. They have a REAL Rogue class, with REAL Rogue skills. The non-combat stuff isn't as deep as SWG, sure, nothing is though, and as SWG has proven time and again, I can make my own damn non-combat content.



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ner0sputnik
Thu Jul 14, 2005 11:11 am
#26

That's a good idea. Instead of us all getting up in arms in a forum (where it's easy to dismiss or delete or ban us) we write as consumers to the corporation. Maybe if we banded all of the smugglers together and started writing letters to the company and then to every trade magazine as an organization, people would start giving a crap.

We could be the United Smuggler's Alliance or something. Draft up letters so as not to sound like upset juveniles and send them out en masse. Let them know why we're boycotting the game, etc... Bad press has a way of really getting a company's attention.



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Former Master Smuggler
I support player bounties. Put me on the terminals!
(But let me earn it by Smuggling)

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