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Thread: In light of recent events, I propose a Suicide Pact. (Not real suicide, it's a metaphor)

maxtheusher
Thu Jul 14, 2005 9:58 am
#1



So, we're moving up to 7 day bans now for them not liking us...

I have a proposal.

If Smuggling, when/if it does come, isn't anything close to what we as players want out of it, we give them 24 HOURS to acknowledge that it is a problem, and after they acknowledge it, ONE WEEK to produce results.

If they fail to do either of these things, I propose we ALL (we can't do it if there's scabs) stage a massive protest in the smuggler forums, AND in game, to the point we all get banned in both arenas.

(now personally, if smuggling is screwed up I'm probably going to consider retiring keck anyway, so it's not a huge sacrifice for me )

But, the large, sudden loss of players should say something to the Devs, and we all know that massive bannings for no GOOD reason catch the critical eye of of the press.

So to sum up, Smuggler gets completely ruined. The Devs refuse to do anything about it in a timely fashion. For me, at least, the game is COMPLETELY not worth my time any more. I protest, get banned, and if enough people do the same, we draw attention to ourselves.

Worst thing that could happen? You retire a toon, and either turn to a new account, an alt, or leave the game entirely. Best thing that could happen, they do something positive in response to widespread criticism against them.



thought I'd add this: If we can track down some more infamous types, get some of the 4 horsemen etc. to reactivate their accounts, just to do this, then we could move the symbolism from, "angst-ridden", up to "tragic."


Edited for strictness

Message Edited by maxtheusher on 07-14-2005 01:11 PM



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richsharpe
Thu Jul 14, 2005 10:02 am
#2






maxtheusher wrote:
So, we're moving up to 7 day bans now for them not liking us...

I have a proposal.

If Smuggling, when/if it does come, isn't anything close to what we as players want out of it, we give them one Week (there's that 7 days again) to acknowledge that it is a problem, and after they acknowledge it, one month to produce results.

If they fail to do either of these things, I propose we ALL (we can't do it if there's scabs) stage a massive protest in the smuggler forums, AND in game, to the point we all get banned in both arenas.

(now personally, if smuggling is screwed up I'm probably going to consider retiring keck anyway, so it's not a huge sacrifice for me )

But, the large, sudden loss of players should say something to the Devs, and we all know that massive bannings for no GOOD reason catch the critical eye of of the press.

So to sum up, Smuggler gets completely ruined. The Devs refuse to do anything about it in a timely fashion. For me, at least, the game is COMPLETELY not worth my time any more. I protest, get banned, and if enough people do the same, we draw attention to ourselves.

Worst thing that could happen? You retire a toon, and either turn to a new account, an alt, or leave the game entirely. Best thing that could happen, they do something positive in response to widespread criticism against them.





Too Late I've already started beacuse they ban us for asking for simple info.


SCREW YOU DEVS GIVE US OUR REVAMP YOU BACK-STABBING TWO FACED LIEING JERKS. FACING ME LIKE A MAN AND NOT A COWARD WHO BANS SOMEONE FOR "TROLLING" IN A FORUM THAT I'VE NEVER POSTED IN BEFORE!!!



/rant off


Lets see how long this account gets banned.





Rich "Captian Obvious" Sharpe
I am Jack's Ingored Profession
... has been Banned for 7 days with AngusMacGregor from the forums for wanting our profession to work.
Antonnio
Thu Jul 14, 2005 10:04 am
#3

I would cancel my account. Think about what would happen if every smuggler quite the game.



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uggler4LifeSmuggler4LifeSmuggl |
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richsharpe
Thu Jul 14, 2005 10:06 am
#4






Antonnio wrote:
I would cancel my account. Think about what would happen if every smuggler quite the game.




What all 5 of us?



Rich "Captian Obvious" Sharpe
I am Jack's Ingored Profession
... has been Banned for 7 days with AngusMacGregor from the forums for wanting our profession to work.
maxtheusher
Thu Jul 14, 2005 10:08 am
#5



Antonnio wrote:
I would cancel my account. Think about what would happen if every smuggler quite the game.




This would be the equivalent of cancelling, only much more visible.



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SpinningCloud
Thu Jul 14, 2005 10:09 am
#6






maxtheusher wrote:


So, we're moving up to 7 day bans now for them not liking us...

I have a proposal.

If Smuggling, when/if it does come, isn't anything close to what we as players want out of it, we give them one Week (there's that 7 days again) to acknowledge that it is a problem, and after they acknowledge it, one month to produce results.

If they fail to do either of these things, I propose we ALL (we can't do it if there's scabs) stage a massive protest in the smuggler forums, AND in game, to the point we all get banned in both arenas.

(now personally, if smuggling is screwed up I'm probably going to consider retiring keck anyway, so it's not a huge sacrifice for me )

But, the large, sudden loss of players should say something to the Devs, and we all know that massive bannings for no GOOD reason catch the critical eye of of the press.

So to sum up, Smuggler gets completely ruined. The Devs refuse to do anything about it in a timely fashion. For me, at least, the game is COMPLETELY not worth my time any more. I protest, get banned, and if enough people do the same, we draw attention to ourselves.

Worst thing that could happen? You retire a toon, and either turn to a new account, an alt, or leave the game entirely. Best thing that could happen, they do something positive in response to widespread criticism against them.


thought I'd add this: If we can track down some more infamous types, get some of the 4 horsemen etc. to reactivate their accounts, just to do this, then we could move the symbolism from, "angst-ridden", up to "tragic."


Message Edited by maxtheusher on 07-14-2005 01:05 PM




Why give them more than 24 hours?


We've given them TWO FREAKING YEARS, they don't deserve EVEN another 24 hours. And they start banning our senior members? Screwe them.






Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie, Two years of "Soon"(TM), a harsh bunch of lies.
Ask me a riddle and I reply: "Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie"

Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie, Dancers can't smuggle and neither can I.
Ask me a riddle and I reply: "Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie."

Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie, Why are there Jedi, I don't know why.
Ask me a riddle and I reply: "Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie."

maxtheusher
Thu Jul 14, 2005 10:10 am
#7



SpinningCloud wrote:


maxtheusher wrote:

So, we're moving up to 7 day bans now for them not liking us...

I have a proposal.

If Smuggling, when/if it does come, isn't anything close to what we as players want out of it, we give them one Week (there's that 7 days again) to acknowledge that it is a problem, and after they acknowledge it, one month to produce results.

If they fail to do either of these things, I propose we ALL (we can't do it if there's scabs) stage a massive protest in the smuggler forums, AND in game, to the point we all get banned in both arenas.

(now personally, if smuggling is screwed up I'm probably going to consider retiring keck anyway, so it's not a huge sacrifice for me )

But, the large, sudden loss of players should say something to the Devs, and we all know that massive bannings for no GOOD reason catch the critical eye of of the press.

So to sum up, Smuggler gets completely ruined. The Devs refuse to do anything about it in a timely fashion. For me, at least, the game is COMPLETELY not worth my time any more. I protest, get banned, and if enough people do the same, we draw attention to ourselves.

Worst thing that could happen? You retire a toon, and either turn to a new account, an alt, or leave the game entirely. Best thing that could happen, they do something positive in response to widespread criticism against them.

thought I'd add this: If we can track down some more infamous types, get some of the 4 horsemen etc. to reactivate their accounts, just to do this, then we could move the symbolism from, "angst-ridden", up to "tragic."

Message Edited by maxtheusher on 07-14-2005 01:05 PM


Why give them more than 24 hours?

We've given them TWO FREAKING YEARS, they don't deserve EVEN another 24 hours. And they start banning our senior members? Screwe them.






Good point. I'll change this a bit.



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Antonnio
Thu Jul 14, 2005 10:11 am
#8

There is a difference. Protesting gets you suspended, in which you still end up paying them their monthly fees, but you cannot play.

Quiting the game cuts off your monthly fees. Meaning they are not making money from you anymore.

The devs have stated before that protesting in game would be grounds for punishment. And we just saw how asking innocent questions in the forums is grounds for punishment too.

I am just saying that I have waited a long time for this smuggling content. If I don't get it, I will find another game and company I can pay to provide me with some entertainment. Perhaps a company focused on giving an equal playing ground to all their professions.

EDIT: I will just say this now. When I heard that Jedi were coming into this game, which I knew about in the early stages, I was worried. I knew that Jedi would eventually be overpopulated and everyone would be buying this game to be one. I KNEW that professions that were not Jedi would be ignored to serve the better interests of all the people who want to be Jedi. After all, How many new players want to be a Smuggler in the long run, and how many want to be Jedi in the long run?

We should have known we would never get smuggling content, especially after we waited 2 years with empty promises, and we still don't have it. Sure they gave us this smuggling system, but it wasn't what we asked for... it wasn't what we were promised. I recall dozens of posts from Developers stating that they had high hopes for smuggler. Right now the only high hopes for smuggler I see is them banning our senior members.

I had to get this off my chest.

Message Edited by Antonnio on 07-14-2005 10:16 AM



Smuggler4LifeSmuggler4LifeSmug  |
gler4LifeSmuggler4LifeSmuggler | Antonnio J. Rossi
4LifeSmuggler4LifeSmuggler4Lif | Captain of the Lone Wolf
eSmuggler4LifeSmuggler4LifeSmu | For Profit Only
ggler4LifeSmuggler4LifeSmuggle | * * *
r4LifeSmuggler4LifeSmuggler4Li |
feSmuggler4LifeSmuggler4LifeSm | My Holonet Page
uggler4LifeSmuggler4LifeSmuggl |
er4LifeSmuggler4LifeSmuggler4L | We're made to suffer. It's our lot in life.
TatharLB
Thu Jul 14, 2005 10:18 am
#9

WoW is looking better and better every minute. Even EQ2 is better than this and I leftit to come back to SWG!


*sigh*


To be fair I did come in, in the middle of all this crap too. I don't know what it has been like for the past year since I left SWG the first time.
GanymedePharuu
Thu Jul 14, 2005 10:18 am
#10

i say, if this Smuggling system isn't up to snuff, then we all go out with a BANG

we protest in game, on the forums, and then when they ban us, we quit. and never look back.



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Antonnio
Thu Jul 14, 2005 10:22 am
#11

I would go to City of Heros and become Smuggler Revamp Man.



Smuggler4LifeSmuggler4LifeSmug  |
gler4LifeSmuggler4LifeSmuggler | Antonnio J. Rossi
4LifeSmuggler4LifeSmuggler4Lif | Captain of the Lone Wolf
eSmuggler4LifeSmuggler4LifeSmu | For Profit Only
ggler4LifeSmuggler4LifeSmuggle | * * *
r4LifeSmuggler4LifeSmuggler4Li |
feSmuggler4LifeSmuggler4LifeSm | My Holonet Page
uggler4LifeSmuggler4LifeSmuggl |
er4LifeSmuggler4LifeSmuggler4L | We're made to suffer. It's our lot in life.
maxtheusher
Thu Jul 14, 2005 10:25 am
#12



Antonnio wrote:
There is a difference. Protesting gets you suspended, in which you still end up paying them their monthly fees, but you cannot play.

Quiting the game cuts off your monthly fees. Meaning they are not making money from you anymore.

The devs have stated before that protesting in game would be grounds for punishment. And we just saw how asking innocent questions in the forums is grounds for punishment too.

I am just saying that I have waited a long time for this smuggling content. If I don't get it, I will find another game and company I can pay to provide me with some entertainment. Perhaps a company focused on giving an equal playing ground to all their professions.

EDIT: I will just say this now. When I heard that Jedi were coming into this game, which I knew about in the early stages, I was worried. I knew that Jedi would eventually be overpopulated and everyone would be buying this game to be one. I KNEW that professions that were not Jedi would be ignored to serve the better interests of all the people who want to be Jedi. After all, How many new players want to be a Smuggler in the long run, and how many want to be Jedi in the long run?

We should have known we would never get smuggling content, especially after we waited 2 years with empty promises, and we still don't have it. Sure they gave us this smuggling system, but it wasn't what we asked for... it wasn't what we were promised. I recall dozens of posts from Developers stating that they had high hopes for smuggler. Right now the only high hopes for smuggler I see is them banning our senior members.

I had to get this off my chest.

Message Edited by Antonnio on 07-14-2005 10:16 AM




The point is, BEFORE we all quit we make a statement.



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SmugglerPie
Thu Jul 14, 2005 10:27 am
#13

Hey... no Smuggler suicides over "Colonel" Angus, please.



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