Smuggler Archive

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WesBelden wrote:

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Docbengal wrote:

My favorite was this little gem of a non answer:

Will a character's CL have any affect on the difficulty and/or content of a mission? (could, for example, a CL 55 Master Smuggler complete the highest level of Smuggler mission?)

• Yes

So which is it? Yes CL makes a difference in what level of mission a smuggler can take or Yes, a CL 55 smuggler can take the same missions as a lvl 80 smuggler? Communication from Tiggs never ceases to amaze (aka make me vomit)

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That's the answer I asked for clarification on; Tiggs thinks it's a yes to both, but is checking on it now.

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As long as you're in a dialogue, could you ask for clarification on the famous "only the NPC lines have to be written" lie?

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yimaz wrote:

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riotcontrol wrote:

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EnemyOfReality wrote:
Smuggling without a space component is only half-smuggling IMO.

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There is no fully developed concept in this game at all. Even the most brilliant ones are, for some inexplicable reason, only half-done.

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yep I agree 100% POB ships are worthless and even more so to Smugglers, what is the point to even having a ship if your a smuggler? It seems logical to me that a Smuggler would need a ship in order to freakin smuggle. But I guess SOE feels the need to keep putting 1/2 arsed code together for this game

Message Edited by yimaz on 10-11-2005 05:59 PM

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Absolutely. If you read any of the novels it's perfectly clear that a Smuggler's ship is his/her lively hood. They all take great pride in their ships. Even if you don't look at the EU, just look at Han for crying out loud.

Hey, anyone remember when I said we'd be getting dressed up delivery missions?

Glad to see I'm wrong... OH WAIT.

Well, Guess I'll be the one to look on teh bright-side.

Sure, about two out of al those questions atuall got answers, but at least they were acknowledged.. and that means they at least can see where we want these to go, so since most of those questions are "Still in development" maybe they'll get the hint and Develope it in the way we would like it.

Thats about the best way I can look at it.

and also.. NO SPACE SMUGGLING??!?! **modbot**?! Didn't they tell us at launch that smuggler wouldn't come into its own until they had ships? (even though we didn't), and now we get a smuggling system that doesnt include them? COME ON!!!!

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Keck_is_banned wrote:
Hey, anyone remember when I said we'd be getting dressed up delivery missions?

Glad to see I'm wrong... OH WAIT.

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Yeah, just like those other people that said I was wrong, and that "this time" was "different".

Spare me the happy song and dance.

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SBRD0C wrote:
Didn't they tell us at launch that smuggler wouldn't come into its own until they had ships? (even though we didn't), and now we get a smuggling system that doesnt include them? COME ON!!!!

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Indeed, that's quite cute too.

I just want to echo the rest in feeling that there should be some space involved in smuggling. It was long said that smuggler wouldn't realize it's potential until after JTL, and then we were forgotten about. I'd also hope that this would give us another use for the cargo holds that are currently worthless if you don't space mine.

On the other hand, I like the sound of the underworld part. I'm guessing the "yes" answer to the CL question means that the missions will vary depending on your CL, like BH missions. I just hope that the level 80 Master smuggler missions present some sort of a challenge, unlike the faction NPC's in the cities. I'd also like to see the difficulty scale if you are grouped. How cool would it be to be running smuggling missions in spacewith a small crew in your POB ship, and having them work together with you when you get jumped on the ground? Kind of like the Talus Station mission, but much better withground parts as well. The random intercepts in space would have to be tiered with the pilot (or maybe 1 teir under), otherwise it just wouldn't be any challenge. Although if a BH / ranger comes for you and you get locked in a PvP fight, they'd have to lock therest of thegroupout of it so you don't end up with a severly one-sided fight.

I also hope they give us an oppourtunity to see the cargo / skim off the top, with a random chance of the person that recieves noticing it or not. If they don't notice... everything is cool. If they do, all of the sudden you are jumped by their henchmen and lose a large chunk of faction. Then you'd have to work to get in their good graces again before you could work for them.

What's this fu*k!ng sh!t......???????????

Common Wes. This is a joke right??

all the cool stuff, that we asked for, all the cool stuff that we was told we will get itmany times before, as I remember, before JTL, that they told us, they will wait until JTL 4 a revamp because the smuggler revamp need space missions. So all this was again a lie? They asked us for feedback about Greenmarine thread, we have thousand ideas that are working or can work with the current system and all we get is: Not under the current design???!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! u got be Kidding?!!!!!!!!!

Damn why did I reactivate my account?!!!

Never before in all in my life, I was so angry before!!! I swear never!!!

SOE u don't know how lucky u are, that I live here in germany?!!! u are very lucky!!!!!

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WesBelden wrote:

Since spice crafting has been removed from the Delinquency tree, what if anything will take its place?

• No replacement has been considered at this time, but that may change.

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So are we going to have 3 trees?
Some tree with no abilities/skills/bonuses?

What the hell is wrong with you people?

That cancel button is looking better by the day.
First the root changes and now this.

Well, look at the bright side. We did at least get some answers.

We hate them and it bodes ill for any revamp we could possibly receive pre-apocalypse but at least we can set our expectation level appropriatly.

Essentially meaning it sounds like you haven't listened to use for the last few years. GreenMarines ideas were trashed and there is a seeming inability to deliver on what was promised aside from content for Jedi.

I sure wish GreenMarine Hadn't Quit... He had such good Ideas

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Stawei_Idow wrote:

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WesBelden wrote:

Since spice crafting has been removed from the Delinquency tree, what if anything will take its place?

• No replacement has been considered at this time, but that may change.

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So are we going to have 3 trees?
Some tree with no abilities/skills/bonuses?

What the hell is wrong with you people?

That cancel button is looking better by the day.
First the root changes and now this.

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Wes can u pls take a look again, from who u got thos answer? maybe he or she was drunk... or isn't a Dev

what doese this mean No replacement has been considered at this time? will have a comple tree with absolut no use since craft spice will be removed? an u call this a revamp?!!!!

Will Smugglers still be able to 'fast talk' their way out of situations as was previously planned?

• Not under the current design

Will there be a space component to missions or are they 100% ground based? (the previous system indicated there would be develiveries/combat/fast talking in space and on the ground).

• Not initially

againthis has been given repeatedly as reason for not working on/implementing a Smuggling system prior to the release of JTL, and now we want get it u are so a fu*king liers

Given that Smugglers will be pursued by both BHs and Rangers, are any Smuggler evasion skills planned that might be used both in our missions and in attempts to avoid being intercepted?

• Not in the current design

same as the first what will get before this, what can we do to avoid BH terminals. and here also we was many times before promissid that we will get this. hell I want a BH to track me even i f they kill me each time, this will not only make a good Star wars feelig like I'm a famous smuggler no!! this will also gives content for BH or Rangers!!!

Outside of a mission setting, is there any penalty for a player carrying contraband? for example, will players carrying large amounts of contraband be unable to use public transport as with some Smuggler missions?

• Not under the current design

Waht will smuggle than? or what is muggling for u the normaldelivery mission with some mobs waiting for us at place B??? no thanx we don't wnat that kind of missions, better we get nothing than this crap

Will the cargo actually be visible in our inventory? (e.g. some form of locked container)

• Still in development

Would said cargo itself count as contraband in a scan and would there be more serious repercussions to having it than a 500cr fine?

• Not under the current design, but possibly.

u better add this but for me I can live without them, but again this was in the past in the in concept thread...

Is there scope with this system at a later date to introduce other contraband items that need to be Smuggled? (an example could be rare resources found only on a certain planet... such as what we see on Mustafar! )

• Sure, the system can support it. But not under the current design.

like i said before we don't wand delivery missions from A to B like they are in the game now.

we want to smuggle really something, something that is illegal. pls take a look athe Thousand post if u r out of ideas.