Smuggler Archive

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Tiggs wrote:

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WesBelden wrote:
Questions gathered so far:

• Will Smugglers still be able to 'fast talk' their way out of situations as was previously planned?
• Not under the current design
• Will there be a space component to missions or are they 100% ground based? (the previous system indicated there would be develiveries/combat/fast talking in space and on the ground).
• Not initially
• How do we get missions? Will we see NPCs or terminals/sliced terminals or an ingenius (ooh er) combination of both? (NPCs prefered!)
• Underworld Contact NPCs that you will have to build faction with.
• If NPCs are used, will they be from the likes of Jabba, or Dave the minor minion?)
• Still in development.
• Given that Smugglers will be pursued by both BHs and Rangers, are any Smuggler evasion skills planned that might be used both in our missions and in attempts to avoid being intercepted?
• Not in the current design
• Who can we work for? (Various criminal factions/NPCs? Rebel or Imperial?)
• Still in development
• How does faction standing interact with the system (Will we gain or lose FP for those we work for?)
• As you succeed at smuggling mission, your underworld faction will increase. As you fail, you will lose Underworld standing.
• Outside of a mission setting, is there any penalty for a player carrying contraband? for example, will players carrying large amounts of contraband be unable to use public transport as with some Smuggler missions?
• Not under the current design
• What happens to contraband on a vendor at the time the patch hits?
• This has not been decided yet at this time.
• What happens to existing spice schematics?
• They will no longer work.
• Are there any changes to spice effects? (Currently Spice is not thought of as something people would seak out so readily given most types are redundant)
• Not under the current design
• What are the rules for player bounties? (will they be the same/similar to the current Jedi missions? i.e. timers, visibilty, decay all the same as Jedi?)
• Still in development
• What mission payouts will BHs receive for Smugglers and will it alter depending on our Underworld rating?
• This has not been decided yet at this time.
• Will Smugglers receive any warning through underworld contacts etc. of them being on the BH terminals?
• If we implement “BH hunting smugglers” then you will opt into the system. Only PvP missions can possibly put you on the terminals.
• Will we be able to skim money/contraband of the top of these missions?
• Still in development
• Will Smugglers be able to pay off the debt/bounty as Greedo attempted to extort from Han/Han tried to pay Jabba off with?
• Not under the current system.
• Will the cargo actually be visible in our inventory? (e.g. some form of locked container)
• Still in development
• Would said cargo itself count as contraband in a scan and would there be more serious repercussions to having it than a 500cr fine?
• Not under the current design, but possibly.
• Will a character's CL have any affect on the difficulty and/or content of a mission? (could, for example, a CL 55 Master Smuggler complete the highest level of Smuggler mission?)
• Yes
• Will the rewards of a successful Smuggling mission come in various forms (e.g. credits, spice, slice components, AAs etc.)? Some Smugglers worry that they will spend more time being spice pusher on the streets than actually Smuggling in order to make ends-meat.
• Yes, there are various forms of rewards
• Will any Smuggler profession trees (such as Underworld) be based on Smuggling XP given for completing missions?
• Still in development
• Is there scope with this system at a later date to introduce other contraband items that need to be Smuggled? (an example could be rare resources found only on a certain planet... such as what we see on Mustafar! )
• Sure, the system can support it. But not under the current design.
• Since spice crafting has been removed from the Delinquency tree, what if anything will take its place?
• No replacement has been considered at this time, but that may change.
• Once a Ranger has stolen a Smuggler's cargo, can the Smuggler still get the cargo back by killing the Ranger?
• Still in development
• When in space, will a craft's cargo hold have anything to do with what is transportable? (Smuggling crates of spice in a Z-95 or Tie-Fighter isn't exactly, well, practical, while cargo holds on POB sized ships would be able to hold far more/make more sense).
• No space interaction with this version of the system at all.

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The first thing that stands out like a sore thumb is that there's no space content, which no doubt many will be furious at because we were told for so long that we're really a space based profession etc. The wording of "Not initially" makes me hopeful that it will be done at a later date, but there's nothing else to indicate as such for now.

I just asked whether, "Not under the current design." is simply another way of saying, "Not this time around." or if items reffered to as such are still open to feedback/change. Until I get an answer though it'd be best if you just assumed "not this time around".

For the stuff that's, "still in development", say what you want to see.

Summary: "We're kind of thinking of doing something, but not really. =)"

/rolleyes

W T F ?? ??

You call those answers?

/flaberghasted

VolatileMan

Will a character's CL have any affect on the difficulty and/or content of a mission? (could, for example, a CL 55 Master Smuggler complete the highest level of Smuggler mission?)

• Yes

So which is it? Yes CL makes a difference in what level of mission a smuggler can take or Yes, a CL 55 smuggler can take the same missions as a lvl 80 smuggler? Communication from Tiggs never ceases to amaze (aka make me vomit)

Hmmm there was a lot of talk about "underworld faction". Will that be a real faction or just like the current "Nym's faction", "Jabba Faction" or "Valerian's Faction" and all those millions of differnt factions.

Tries very hard to get the image of the Jawa junk dealers that will only talk to smugglers out his mind.

Gah, say it ain't so. I really really wanted to be able to pilot a POB ship with a friend or two along in the turrets. Or even run from trouble in merely a fighter. Smuggling without a space component is only half-smuggling IMO.

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Docbengal wrote:

My favorite was this little gem of a non answer:

Will a character's CL have any affect on the difficulty and/or content of a mission? (could, for example, a CL 55 Master Smuggler complete the highest level of Smuggler mission?)

• Yes

So which is it? Yes CL makes a difference in what level of mission a smuggler can take or Yes, a CL 55 smuggler can take the same missions as a lvl 80 smuggler? Communication from Tiggs never ceases to amaze (aka make me vomit)

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That's the answer I asked for clarification on; Tiggs thinks it's a yes to both, but is checking on it now.

Wes...dude Ive always respected you and I know your working in C forum butbro come on what is this!

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EnemyOfReality wrote:
Smuggling without a space component is only half-smuggling IMO.

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There is no fully developed concept in this game at all. Even the most brilliant ones are, for some inexplicable reason, only half-done.

Wow. Just wow.

SOE, thank you for making my angst at not logging in so much easier.