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Thread: Smuggler Request to the Devs to clarify the changes on Feign Death. What does it mean to us?
SB2K4
Fri Feb 18, 2005 4:10 pm
#131
Well, this is something I wasn't expecting...... that sounds about right for our wonderous devs, protect the precious jedi who has abused fd and forced this change. The same devs that promoted the Jedi fight cubbing.
The big issue here isn't the smugglers who are posting in this thread, they are the ones who pray for a change. The big issue is the 25-30% that just fade away into nothingness never to return, never a parting comment made.
I'm a very big star wars fan, always have been. I always wanted to be like Han Solo..... but the current state of this game and this professionsickens me to the core.....
BruSwillis
Fri Feb 18, 2005 4:11 pm
#132
Good to se this fixed.
NO SMUGGLER WORTH HIS OR HER SALT EVER USED THIS IN PVP ANYWAY.
WesBelden
Fri Feb 18, 2005 4:12 pm
#133
Guys, this bit me on the bum at the same time it got you; I'm trying to find things out and hopefully I'll get a response. Bare with me...
01201986
Fri Feb 18, 2005 4:13 pm
#134
I did thank you very much, and many other smugglers did too.
BruSwillis wrote:
Good to se this fixed.
NO SMUGGLER WORTH HIS OR HER SALT EVER USED THIS IN PVP ANYWAY.
Message Edited by 01201986 on 02-18-2005 06:32 PM
SmugglinZane
Fri Feb 18, 2005 4:13 pm
#135
DarkBShadow wrote:
Saabotage wrote:
So far I believe we have been nerfed the most.
i'm sorry but that will always go to CH. CH was by FAR the was the profession that was hit hardest with a nerf bat. CH went from being a fun and a great profession to being a worthless amounts of skill points and is jsut there for people who just for the hell of it want to keep the pets and not be of any use in PvP or PvE any more.
and why is everyoen saying this skill will suck in PvE now?? it wont cuz the mobs will de-aggro you when you go into FD. only thing this is affecting is PvP which was being abbused by to many non smugglers. and it is ad to see yes but something had to be done about it.
maybe instead change it that you are invulnerable for like 2 minutes or so and after that you are open for attack to get inncapped and DB. then also have liek a 1min timer on FD for you to be able to use it again. and when you go up the tree of dirty fighting make it so the timer for how long you can stay in FD as invuln to 3-4min and reduce the timer to like 30s inbetween FD.
Yeah and CH was so iconic to SW wasn't it. CH got nerfed because it was really overpowered and the game became about what pet you had. You still have your big pets that do big damage as long as you're willing to invest your points in it.
Tell me, who else has 3 of their trees mean nothing? (Yeah 3, because one only matters if you join a faction and no other profession has to deal with that either.) The only tree that now officially works is slicing, but it doesn't matter because the skill you gain in it means nothing because it's all random.
JTGAlpha
Fri Feb 18, 2005 4:13 pm
#136
Yes, but if it affects us PvE as well, then it's useless...
And FIXED? IT'S BEEN LIKE THIS SINCE LAUNCH! We've got a CURB in progress, and a profession revamp on the horizon. Why this bad fix now when there have been MANY far better solutions offered by us the community, without even a so much as , "Hey, we've got an idea."
LaughingWolf
Fri Feb 18, 2005 4:14 pm
#137
DarkBShadow wrote:and why is everyoen saying this skill will suck in PvE now?? it wont cuz the mobs will de-aggro you when you go into FD.
I think you are right, if we get incapped the mob will de-aggro. AS mentioned before, what we need to know to pass a judgment on the usefulness of FD now in PvE is this: will a DBing mob incap you then leave you alone because you are feigned, or incap and DB you? If the former, than sure, the skill is ok in PvE, even better in a way since the incap will break aggro. But if we get DBed anyway... anyway, speculations speculations. We need to test that!
Message Edited by LaughingWolf on 02-18-2005 06:18 PM
SmugglinZane
Fri Feb 18, 2005 4:14 pm
#138
WesBelden wrote:
Guys, this bit me on the bum at the same time it got you; I'm trying to find things out and hopefully I'll get a response. Bare with me...
Yeah, I'm gonna bare my ass to them with ya! I think you meant bear bro. 
Just let us know what you can. Things ain't gonna die down here for awhile.
drjjwow
Fri Feb 18, 2005 4:15 pm
#139
lol swg,.. making this change i must say is stupid, and doesnt say much for the devs right now... if this isnt how the devs wanted it to be, then why did they let it go on this long. I'm currently a jedi and my alt is a master doc with master swords so im not effected by this change at all, however feign death "the option itself" now seems pointless to the game,.. who in their right mind would use it after this patch... NOBODY lol
if it takes this long to fix this so called bug, then i bet it will take the devs 2 years to fix other issues like CRASH TO DESKTOP, in which case im screwed....
Undergrid
Fri Feb 18, 2005 4:16 pm
#140
drjjwow wrote:lol swg,.. making this change i must say is stupid, and doesnt say much for the devs right now... if this isnt how the devs wanted it to be, then why did they let it go on this long. I'm currently a jedi and my alt is a master doc with master swords so im not effected by this change at all, however feign death "the option itself" now seems pointless to the game,.. who in their right mind would use it after this patch... NOBODY lolif it takes this long to fix this so called bug, then i bet it will take the devs 2 years to fix other issues like CRASH TO DESKTOP, in which case im screwed....
QFE.
MISTagent01
Fri Feb 18, 2005 4:18 pm
#141
Jesus H Christ people, CALM DOWN.
Seriously...it wasn't meant to be a PvP move anyway. You all need to stop acting like drama queens and focus. Bru is right, no smuggler worth their salt ever used this in PvP anyway. I know I never did. With the GCW changes coming our way, FD isn't necessary for a Smuggler to delegate faction. WE DON'T NEED IT IN PVP. Why is that so hard to realize?
Honestly, I'm not a part of the CURB, I don't have access to the Corr. boards, and I'm on the other side of my PC, happy this change is going in.
I'm TIRED of Jedi abusing one of our skills. I'm TIRED of hearing a bunch of crap about "How FD needs to be nerfed in PvP, etc etc."
It was never supposed to be used in PvP, now it's pretty much guaranteed it will never be used in PvP.
Good job devs. (no sarcasm whatsoever)
Everyone whining needs to get over the fact that something that wasn't ever intended to be usedis being taken away from us. I agree 100% that the aggro area needs to be changed, but that is an entirely different issue than what is being fixed now.
Just stop the whining. Just stop.
I'm out of here right now. I can't stand seeing the community like this, resigned to wet-toasts of human beings. /feh
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Message Edited by MISTagent01 on 02-18-2005 03:21 PM
cpz
Fri Feb 18, 2005 4:18 pm
#142
We do need to coome out of the victim mindset we appear to be in.
FD broke PvP. Fair enough, and moving it to Master wouldn't have eradicated the problem.
FD also gave us a massive advantage in PvE too, anddid need balancing.
But if they have changed it to the extent that it's yet another useless box in this profession full of useless or empty boxes, as it would be if /dbing mobs still db you,I am out.
BruSwillis
Fri Feb 18, 2005 4:21 pm
#143
01201986 wrote:
I did thank you very much, and many other smugglers did too. plz refrain from opening your mouth on a subject you obviously know nothing about
BruSwillis wrote:
Good to se this fixed.
NO SMUGGLER WORTH HIS OR HER SALT EVER USED THIS IN PVP ANYWAY.
Like I said, no Smuggler worth his or her salt.
I've been a Smuggler from the day it was brought into the game in beta when we had to have eng4 as a pre-req which is where i got into Weaponsmithing as well. So, please refrain from opening your mouth on a subject you obviously know nothing about. You were one of the ones that used the "lame button" in PvP that has brought this about so zip it and ill stand by my comments.