Smuggler Archive

/chuckle

/shakeshead

Well...i'm not disappointed, i've said it for 2 years now....I dont put much stock in SOE's promises, and I take a "I'll believe itwhen I see it" approach.

For SOE's sake, I really do hope that you are able to "keep players happy"; because honestly, once my friends go..I go, as it stands That's the only reason why I bother to log in.

This game has long since ceased to be SW; and has become a stupid little side story...in some distant parallel universe.

/shakeshead

Message Edited by VegitoX on 07-27-2005 08:53 AM

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DirtySteveStevens wrote:

Be nice if those jotos would sack up come get me

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That's the most unpirate line ever. I screwed up big time and fully accept and take the reprecussions

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Tiggs wrote:

This doesn't mean that there won't be changes to professions or other content, it just means that bigger things are pushed out and given the time to be worked on that they deserve.

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The changes needed to smuggler would have to fall into "bigger things", and we have been told COUNTLESS times now that the time to work on THAT was finally (FINALLY) being allocated - only to then each time - EACH TIME -be told it was being pushed out to once again to cater to 'the larger audience'. Each time it was said that it could now be given it the time it deserves. It's been two years - the time is deserves has come and gone ... it is now being wronged each passing day.

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Tiggs wrote:

We want to have more players for you to play with and I am sure you want that also.

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You assume to much. What I want is to stop losing players we already have. What I want is some reason to stop hovering over the cancel button MYSELF. What I want is for the smuggler - profession of Han Solo one of the most iconic Star Wars figures of all time - to be profession worth it's iconic place in the fiction. And frankly at this point I'd rather play on an empty server than a full one if it meant we could have STAR WARS professions.

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Tiggs wrote:

The entire team cares very much about you the customers and the game.

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Actions not words ... actions.

I am not surprised. The only thing I can think of that comes close to how I feel right now is reading the sports page the day after your team got shut out 41-0 the night before as you sat on the bench watching the game.

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IndySWG wrote:

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Tiggs wrote:

This doesn't mean that there won't be changes to professions or other content, it just means that bigger things are pushed out and given the time to be worked on that they deserve. Translated:if it helps Jedi, it will be imlplemeted. Other professions are a stepping stone to Jedi

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The changes needed to smuggler would have to fall into "bigger things", and we have been told COUNTLESS times now that the time to work on THAT was finally (FINALLY) being allocated - only to then each time - EACH TIME -be told it was being pushed out to once again to cater to 'the larger audience'. Each time it was said that it could now be given it the time it deserves. It's been two years - the time is deserves has come and gone ... it is now being wronged each passing day.

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Tiggs wrote:

We want to have more players for you to play with and I am sure you want that also.You lie. I played with with othe non combat profsprecu, you knew this, and it upset you.

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You assume to much. What I want is to stop losing players we already have. What I want is some reason to stop hovering over the cancel button MYSELF. What I want is for the smuggler - profession of Han Solo one of the most iconic Star Wars figures of all time - to be profession worth it's iconic place in the fiction. And frankly at this point I'd rather play on an empty server than a full one if it meant we could have STAR WARS professions.

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Tiggs wrote:

The entire team cares very much about you the customers and the game.The SOE team cares about the new Jedi, not the canon or actual SW fans that play this game

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Actions not words ... actions.

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WesBelden wrote:

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magnum1138 wrote:
Shouldn't you rather apply for the Politician Correspondent job WES??

I think some outrage from you would be in order.
You posted earlier that you know nothing about the plans.
That we don't is bad enough. But you?

We are talking about a revamp that is done already (or so they say)

You shouldnt be diplomatic.
Not now.

Respectfully
Magnum

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I've said my piece on this, loud and clear, just not in a place you can view.

Edit: Additionally, it is always my aim to be diplomatic: "Using or marked by tact and sensitivity in dealing with others", so that informed discussion can take place rather than anyone taking offence and clouding an issue. I suspect you mean that I have been spin doctoring, which I do not believe to be the case. Tiggs can only present us with the information that has been aOK'd to be past on, which seems to be very little.

I for one would not like to be in the situation she is in, receiving the brunt of our frustrations when she herself has very little to do with what gets developed and how. I'm not saying don't be pissed off, or don't be dispondent about the fact there seems to be yet another delay, just don't shoot the messenger.

Message Edited by WesBelden on 07-27-2005 02:50 AM

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Yup, nothing like a good ole swift kick in the rocks to let us know "hey, we haven't forgotten about you".

Thats how it seems to me.

Alright thats it.

I try to get away - but I just keep gettin pulled back in.

Tiggs, I am so utterly ashamed for supporting you earlier. I tried to be polite and reasonable-minded the last couple times you have addressed the communities, but I cannot do that any longer.

You are a liar. Plain and simple. I am generally not a harsh person, but the load of bullsh!t you just tried to shove down our throats is the worst thing I have ever been told as a customer of any product, or of any company.

This entire games is f*cked up. The very least you can go is push to make the professions have purpose. Jedi and Bounty Hunters are the only ones that have any real content. But theres no point in me spewing facts to you, because you won't listen anyways. This community has been screaming for attention for 2 years, and has fallen on deaf ears.

So in closing, I would like to say "thank you".

Thank you for making cancelling my subscription all that much easier. Thank you for giving mean example as to how a public relations executive should not act. Thank you for motivating me to try new products, and finally, thank you for making my gaming experiences with another company a thousand times more enjoyable than my time with SOE.

Above all else, thanks goes out to the SWG Team at both Lucas Arts and Sony Online Entertainment, for motivating me to never buy another title from either of you.

/thank;

I don't post much, simply because most people are morons, but you, Sir Wanksalot, have made many of my workdays bearable. Hope to catch you on CoH; when I give up hope on this game

Oh my! More bullcrap for me! Wow!

Veela, if you need any more addresses of gameing magazines, I track ever single one down in good ol' germany

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Tiggs wrote:

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Chemistrius wrote:
Honestly, this should come as NO surprise to any of you.

SOE has no respect for you as customers, never has and likely never will. For them to even think that they do is an insult to our intelligence.

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The entire team cares very much about you the customers and the game. The game is constantly evolving and we need to focus our energy on bug fixes and making the game more fun for a wider audience. That includes the present audience in that. We want to have more players for you to play with and I am sure you want that also. With this comes reducing the scope of our publishes so that we can make sure that publishes are cleaner. This doesn't mean that there won't be changes to professions or other content, it just means that bigger things are pushed out and given the time to be worked on that they deserve.

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"and why should smugglers actually smuggle anything? they can already make spices and they can talk to any alien in the game! also they can play dead."

After trudging through the last 8 pages a fewthoughts occurred to me:

1) People have said "Don't blame Tiggs - she's just the messenger" OK, can someone point out where the messenger came onto our forum board and said we were being delayed? Oh wait, she didn't, the realization that our development was being put to a longer development was made OUTSIDE this forum. So I don't blame Tiggs for the message but it was a slap in the face to read it in a different forum - and for THAT I'm royally steamed.

2) People getting annoyed with Wes. Well - We saw what happened with the AS correspondent lost it - I'd prefer to accept the knowledge that Wes is working behind the scenes for us and leave it at that.

3) We're being put off for Bug Fixes now? Well MAYBE IF YOU DIDN'T LET THE REPORTED BUGS GO FROM TC TO LIVE YOU WOULDN'T BE IN THIS MESS. Sorry for the shouting but when you see TC crap go live you just have to scream.

I'm also struck with the realization that everything I've read from any developer has been a lie.

I really don't like being lied to.

Maybe it's time to start considering closing my 3 accounts. Not sure yet.

Dat