Smuggler Archive
Thread: Concussion shot vs Stopping Shot?
LTZweigg wrote:
Well yes, but Smugglers are supposed to be a crowd-control profession. Not every ability works well in every situation. You've pointed out the Concussion shot has no use in a one-on-one fight and that's true. But it was never intended for that purpose.
I can say that the snow chains for my tires serve no purpose during the summer other than to eat up my driveway and play havok with my gas mileage. See what I mean?
I also wouldn't use an AOE on a group of non-aggro mobs if I only wanted to pull one at a time. If you want to have some abilities that will let you solo more effectively, you just need to rethink your template. It's not like the change to Concussion Shot is a sudden thing. We've known it been coming since FF.
so then the tactic would only be usefull if you are a commando(when it should have a big stand-alone usefullness) with their AOE-weapons. You can't fanshot and conc. shot at the same time : )
I agree, it a good attack, seemingly much better than a simple root. But it will actually make fights much more boring and useless on multiple vs 1(ie group vs Krayt) as you attack with it, breaks unstantly on your friends attack[waste of combat round]. At least with roots, stong NPCs had the chance of breaking it and charging you. And a note for PvP(expecially jedi) it would essentially make them way to long.
You shoot your Conc. shot to mez them
You heal yourself
You shoot them with some ability(assume Reckless Shot as its smuggler)
MaitaXibo wrote:
THey say they are asking but I gaurantee it will all go up as Pub 19 next week with the current crap that according to the boards in the smuggler and in testing area at least 75% of the current smugglers hate.
I think you might be on glue here pal... granted the new slicing is being hotly debated but there is NO WAY 75% of smugglers hate the new concussion idea, its one of the best changes they have made and is what the special was always intended to do. get a grip anger and fear lead to the dark side..
Ok what did u people not get about the fact taht unless ur a smugler comando the changes will make u totaly suck
u WILL get ur @$$ handed to u by everyone and everything and u will never win in pvp NO ONE will want u in a group
and u will TOTALY SUCKTILL THE END OF DAYS
all i can say is THANK GOD I SAVED MY TOKEN RESPEC
if this crap goes though and they beat the heck outa concusion shot with the nerf bat im outieand so are MOST smuglers lol
just wait till all the people that whined about concusion shot cant get spice faction or gaming tables n e more then we'll see who gets the last laugh cuz im not waisint that many sp on a worthless profession
lspiderl wrote:
Ok what did u people not get about the fact taht unless ur a smugler comando the changes will make u totaly suck
u WILL get ur @$$ handed to u by everyone and everything and u will never win in pvp NO ONE will want u in a group
and u will TOTALY SUCKTILL THE END OF DAYS
all i can say is THANK GOD I SAVED MY TOKEN RESPEC
if this crap goes though and they beat the heck outa concusion shot with the nerf bat im outieand so are MOST smuglers lol
just wait till all the people that whined about concusion shot cant get spice faction or gaming tables n e more then we'll see who gets the last laugh cuz im not waisint that many sp on a worthless profession
LOL. This is a joke, right?
lspiderl wrote:
Ok what did u people not get about the fact taht unless ur a smugler comando the changes will make u totaly suck
u WILL get ur @$$ handed to u by everyone and everything and u will never win in pvp NO ONE will want u in a group
and u will TOTALY SUCKTILL THE END OF DAYS
all i can say is THANK GOD I SAVED MY TOKEN RESPEC
if this crap goes though and they beat the heck outa concusion shot with the nerf bat im outieand so are MOST smuglers lol
just wait till all the people that whined about concusion shot cant get spice faction or gaming tables n e more then we'll see who gets the last laugh cuz im not waisint that many sp on a worthless profession
Would it be unSmuggler of me to tell this jerkoff to get the fcuk out of my profession?
why dont u kiss off man u think the nerfing there proposing to concusion shot will accualy be GOOD for smuglers then your just deslusional
and as for it being YOUR profesion i didnt see your name listed on the profesion boxes and i sure didnt see you listed as a coder or program or dev for soe so why dont you take your uneducated flaming somewhere else
and i truely hope your on my server so taht when they nerf concussion shot and i change profs i can come by and pwn u in a deul and laugh the whole time while u try to use your now worthless concusion shot to do something about it
lspiderl wrote:
why dont u kiss off man u think the nerfing there proposing to concusion shot will accualy be GOOD for smuglers then your just deslusional
and as for it being YOUR profesion i didnt see your name listed on the profesion boxes and i sure didnt see you listed as a coder or program or dev for soe so why dont you take your uneducated flaming somewhere else
and i truely hope your on my server so taht when they nerf concussion shot and i change profs i can come by and pwn u in a deul and laugh the whole time while u try to use your now worthless concusion shot to do something about it
Zorron wrote:
Blixtev, if you think people use daze attacks primarily so they can back out and rest up, you are living in tra-la-la-land. Chained together with other attacks, they are used to kill opponents who are unable to fight back or heal themselves. You call this balance?
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Blixtev wrote:
Zorron wrote:
Blixtev, if you think people use daze attacks primarily so they can back out and rest up, you are living in tra-la-la-land. Chained together with other attacks, they are used to kill opponents who are unable to fight back or heal themselves. You call this balance?
Didn't make in time for Pub 19 but Daze effects will not be able to be chained in the future. Similar to how you can't chain knockdowns one after the other there will be a timer on the target that prevents chain Dazing. This should be out in time for Pub 20 or 21.
PUB 20 or 21? This realy needs to be fixed now. If you can't put in the anti-chaining effects, the leave Daze out until the next publish
Blixtev wrote:
Zorron wrote:
Blixtev, if you think people use daze attacks primarily so they can back out and rest up, you are living in tra-la-la-land. Chained together with other attacks, they are used to kill opponents who are unable to fight back or heal themselves. You call this balance?
Didn't make in time for Pub 19 but Daze effects will not be able to be chained in the future. Similar to how you can't chain knockdowns one after the other there will be a timer on the target that prevents chain Dazing. This should be out in time for Pub 20 or 21.
i hope this goes for root/snare/paralyze and whatever i might have forgotten
as of now, 2-3riflemen can easily take you out without getting scratched themself, doesn´t sound like balance to me
Blixtev wrote:
Zorron wrote:
Blixtev, if you think people use daze attacks primarily so they can back out and rest up, you are living in tra-la-la-land. Chained together with other attacks, they are used to kill opponents who are unable to fight back or heal themselves. You call this balance?
Didn't make in time for Pub 19 but Daze effects will not be able to be chained in the future. Similar to how you can't chain knockdowns one after the other there will be a timer on the target that prevents chain Dazing. This should be out in time for Pub 20 or 21.
Remove Dave until you can get it right. We do not need the game broke even morefor a month or two waiiting on a publish for something that should have been fixed before pushing live. Having Daze where it can chained forever is game breaking. If you cant do it right, dont do it.