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Thread: Smuggler delay

ReptileSpit
Fri Jun 04, 2004 6:01 pm
#118

From Smuggler_Caylin:


"The majority of the time, most of what I've seen coming from the developers that gets real attention are thechanges withobvious marketing value in the existing game. The latest two-publish effort involving Jedi only furthers the feeling I have that you are sorely in need of the novelty presented by playingJedi in order to sell subscriptions. It's probably worked well for a time too. Personally I feel you would have better luck at keeping subscriptions byfocusing on the mechanics of the game that make it fun first, as opposed to figuring out new particle effects.In the end, pretty graphics will not keep people playing this game and that iscurrently your most appealing aspect aside from the fact that there is the Star Wars label here. This is a beautiful game, but while it looks terrific the gameplay does not presently make me feel as if I'm part of the Star Wars universe and is without a doubt lacking in content that does so.Jedi is only fun to a select few, and you are spending a great deal of resource time and effort on it, while the mechanics of making the game fun are pushed backtime and time again. "



Dang if this doesn't absolutely nail it on the head. Especially the part about selling subscriptions.


You just know dang well SOE just can't wait to release another pretty promotional video featuring a ton of Jedi battling it out with lightsabers against AT-ATs, which don't even exist in the game at this point.


Crash752
Fri Jun 04, 2004 6:23 pm
#119

I'm still missing why Jedi are pushed ahead of everyone else. I have no problem with our delay, You should put out a good revamp, but what about everyone else? Why are 2 major publishes devoted to a Jedi revamp, when they haven't been in game as long as the rest of the professions?



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JTGAlpha
Fri Jun 04, 2004 6:27 pm
#120

I can understand Jedi getting pushed ahead. Hell I'm GLAD they're fixing Jedi right now.


"But WHY? What about US?"


True, we need love to, but the reason they're fixing Jedi now is to begin stopping that GOD AWFUL holo-grind mania which is infecting and ruining every profession in the game!


And you know what? It's working! Already the cantinas are a little cleaner less populated with a bunch of "Go-Go DanceBots."


So I'm happy as a heck they're doing Jedi now.


I'm just pissed they're not taking a couple of minutes to actually DISCUSS all these ideas we've been throwing out. Just telling us they're too long. I'm PISSED they didnt' tell us that the SE was REQUIRED for our profession. I'm PISSED that they won't clue us in to HOW we're tied to it, because it's vital information.


That's what I"m mad about. Not our profession getting pushed back, or the Jedi getting their revamp first, or even the ID's (but if you can make friggin' STYLISTS important in this game, why can't you do the same for Han Solo?).





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Kogus
Fri Jun 04, 2004 7:02 pm
#121

ugh. this is exactly the kind of behavior that made me quit. or, i would have quit, but i was tricked into buying six more months. i say tricked because i didnt order six more months, but i got it. (with expenses towards my parents' bank account)
Ly-Mantok
Fri Jun 04, 2004 7:54 pm
#122

What a crock. Smuggler revamp overdue since 9/2003 is delayed twice now and is deprioritized behind stuff like image design revamp??? No way is JTL going to be done in November with these kind of schedule shifts...and that means yet more delays for smugglers. Unbelievably poor planning.

Ivo_Kos
Fri Jun 04, 2004 7:56 pm
#123



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DarkJedi539
Fri Jun 04, 2004 8:12 pm
#124



i am not vocal on these forums for these very reasons, i have browsed the forums and i cant find any information on these fixes for any profession. the smuggler delay and the various other delays come as no surprise to me. the jedi are apparently soe's main focus yet they are rare. i have a funny feeling that the upcoming combat revamp(wich is after the jedi one:smileymad will be a flop, that it wont be what is said to be and that you will have a lot more cancelations.



No i am not a jedi yet nor do i really care to become one
Aspiring bh dabbler pistoleer
Dubolom
Fri Jun 04, 2004 8:21 pm
#125

I just can't find the original annoncement for the latest delay. Can someone point me to a link?


thanks!



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AudioOrgana
Fri Jun 04, 2004 8:24 pm
#126






Dubolom wrote:

I just can't find the original annoncement for the latest delay. Can someone point me to a link?


thanks!







It has been removed. It was a "State of the Game" post by JustG that was accidentally released and then deleted/hidden.


AO

zoynk
Fri Jun 04, 2004 8:38 pm
#127

After reading countless posts reguarding people refering to this game as a beta. After countless flames from those who see the progress and refuse to compare this game to beta days... Smuggler defines my outlook on this game and the reasons for comparing this game to a beta. Buying an expansion in order to have a functional profession? Please...



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Fritz13
Fri Jun 04, 2004 8:44 pm
#128

The text is multiple places throughout the smuggler forums. I'll find you one.

CptBluddworth
Fri Jun 04, 2004 8:46 pm
#129

I will put my 2 cents into this discussion....I have put my money where my mouth was...I got tired of their delays for the Smuggler profession....got tired of the lies that we were told...and now over a month ago my account was shut down and I am playing City of Heroes.....Now this might not be a big deal for SOE, but my $16.00 or whatever it was is being spent somewhere else.



It is funny to see that some people are still thanking the Devs for letting them know about the delay, or being so understanding that the Smugglers will just have to wait for another 2 or 3 patches before they even consider revamping Smugglers.....and it would not surprise me if some issue comes up in the new expansion that will have to be addressed...pushing the Smuggler revamp back even further then that....


Honestly I have too much pride to take this level of poor customer care.....Just remember if you wait this out much longer, and you started out as a Smuggler when this game launched...you will have paid close to $250.00 to play a flawed game...






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Fritz13
Fri Jun 04, 2004 8:53 pm
#130

I need an edit button! http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=smuggler&message.id=91954There is the link. Scroll down to read a version with enters in it.
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