Shipwright Archive
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silversaber wrote:
Ashet wrote:
My main issue is that they will not let us build the new spaceships. The new ships are being given out as deeds at the end of quests.With Beserker rifles or AV-21s, they gave out integral parts but still needed crafters. The way the game is headed crafters will not be needed. You run through the quest that Darth Platypus laid ouit and you have everything you need to do space mining.
From an SW point of view, the cool part of the expanion are the ships. But we are cut out of that. There is no content on the expansion for a shipwright. What content there was, the schamtics, were in my datapad before the expansion.
The screwed the Entertainers. Squad Leaders. Doctors. Image Designers. Armorsmiths. Now Shipwrights. It is clear that everything being developed is soly for the combat classes, and to me there is no reason to continue in a non combat role.
So I cancelled my Shipwright
QFE
QFE by me too.
silversaber wrote:
Thunderheart wrote:
Just an FYI for Shipwrights. Crafted Engines and Capacitors should be getting stat increases across the board in the next live update. This should make it so that crafted versions of these ship components can be crafted at a higher quality than looted components.
TH, how does that help with us Shipwrights being cut out of the loop on what is the best ships now in the game?
Also tell me, is this a for-shadow of the future? Are you Devs abandoning the "Player based Economy" concept for the game altogether?
Silversaber have you tried out the Jedi Starfigher? I will most likely never be able to sell another chassis again. It is 90K mass. Half the size of a baby chuba. Two weapons mounts. Turns and stops on a dime. Has neat flippy wings. And oh yeah... ITS FREE.
I basically am going to delete my chassis vendor and all of the chassis on it since I have to compete with stuff twice as good people get for free after completing a few very easy ground missions. (although they are hella bugged right now)
Selling components is our only hope now. My alt is crying...
silversaber wrote:Since a tier 4 ship requires 80k units of resources, that means your getting charged 1.25 cpu. Depending on what server your on, this doesn't seem to shabby to me.
Dude, seriously. I'm sorry but I gotta give you the Worst Math Ever award.
80,000 x 1.25 = 100,000. Not 1.25 million
1,250,000/80,000 = 15.625 cpu.
silversaber wrote:
RSQViper wrote:
silversaber wrote:
Thunderheart wrote:
Just an FYI for Shipwrights. Crafted Engines and Capacitors should be getting stat increases across the board in the next live update. This should make it so that crafted versions of these ship components can be crafted at a higher quality than looted components.
TH, how does that help with us Shipwrights being cut out of the loop on what is the best ships now in the game?Also tell me, is this a for-shadow of the future? Are you Devs abandoning the "Player based Economy" concept for the game altogether?
calm down. If shipwrights could make the Jedi Starfighter, ARC-170 and the new Privateer ship it would take rare looted parts. We all know how much artisans charge for stuff like that so the way it is now is fine by me.There is NO reason they couldnt have handled it the same way they handled the other desirable items in the game by issueing a limited schematic as the quest reward. It does NOT mean that it needs rare components.
It's about time we get some really cool loot rewards. Not everything cool HAS to be made by artisans.Yes it does, if this game is to continue to have a Player based Economy. Player meaning the crafters. Cut the crafters out of the equation, then this concept is BROKEN. The giving away the best ships in the game kills the upper tier chassis market for us shipwrights, and is NOT acceptable.
Iether this is a player based economy, or its isnt! There are no grey areas here.
You still make every SINGLE piece that goes INTO these ships. Every ship except for the Yacht and that ship is useless. They are now making the stuff you make better. Why are you complaining? Your stock just went UP, not down.
You can't tell me you can't make money off of the parts that go into ships. I just got done upgrading my YT with player-made items and I bought them at a pretty inexpensive price compared to most shops on my server.
Know how much I spent? Nearly a million credits, that's how much. Then I got a Y-8 (for free HA!) and you know what I have to do now? Buy more stuff for it. Stuff YOU make. If it was a ship I had to buy it would be extremely expensive and I wouldn't have it. I also wouldn't by BUYING pieces to put into it would I? No. Same goes for a lot of people. Believe it or not you may very well make more money like this since more people will be needing new parts and there are now 6 ship slots.
You can make money and the economy will continue as it always has. Stop being so greedy.
Message Edited by RSQViper on 05-07-2005 03:13 PM
RSQViper wrote:
calm down. If shipwrights could make the Jedi Starfighter, ARC-170 and the new Privateer ship it would take rare looted parts. We all know how much artisans charge for stuff like that so the way it is now is fine by me.
It's about time we get some really cool loot rewards. Not everything cool HAS to be made by artisans.
Theres another design probelm rampent in this game. RARE LOOT DROPS. This was never supposed to be a loot game.
My whole argument is they should have made them a chassis design you peramntly learned and include the new resources as part of there crafting proccess. No loot drops. No dungeons.. just a learned schematic that required the new asteroid resources.
Pseudopd wrote:
silversaber wrote:
TH, how does that help with us Shipwrights being cut out of the loop on what is the best ships now in the game?
I wouldnt call the new ships "the best ships in the game"....
And, those ships have no componets on them. Hmmm, who will make those for me?
Baz Pseudopod
No one. You will swap your UBER looted RE'd parts and put them in your new ships. That's what most do when they get to Master Pilot.
Thunderheart wrote:
Just an FYI for Shipwrights. Crafted Engines and Capacitors should be getting stat increases across the board in the next live update. This should make it so that crafted versions of these ship components can be crafted at a higher quality than looted components.
Smokescreen I say!!!We've been asking for this since JTL beta????? Why suddenly are you all getting around to this??? To distract from the real issues bothering most of us? Come on man, you used to be a voice of the players... what happened when you got promoted?
I'll say thanks( I guess) but this really isn't at the top of the list as far as things that need addressing from these last few weeks of the nonstop slaps in the face.
Thunderheart wrote:
Just an FYI for Shipwrights. Crafted Engines and Capacitors should be getting stat increases across the board in the next live update. This should make it so that crafted versions of these ship components can be crafted at a higher quality than looted components.
RSQViper wrote:
silversaber wrote:
RSQViper wrote:
silversaber wrote:
Thunderheart wrote:
Just an FYI for Shipwrights. Crafted Engines and Capacitors should be getting stat increases across the board in the next live update. This should make it so that crafted versions of these ship components can be crafted at a higher quality than looted components.
TH, how does that help with us Shipwrights being cut out of the loop on what is the best ships now in the game?
Also tell me, is this a for-shadow of the future? Are you Devs abandoning the "Player based Economy" concept for the game altogether?
calm down. If shipwrights could make the Jedi Starfighter, ARC-170 and the new Privateer ship it would take rare looted parts. We all know how much artisans charge for stuff like that so the way it is now is fine by me.
There is NO reason they couldnt have handled it the same way they handled the other desirable items in the game by issueing a limited schematic as the quest reward. It does NOT mean that it needs rare components.
It's about time we get some really cool loot rewards. Not everything cool HAS to be made by artisans.
Yes it does, if this game is to continue to have a Player based Economy. Player meaning the crafters. Cut the crafters out of the equation, then this concept is BROKEN. The giving away the best ships in the game kills the upper tier chassis market for us shipwrights, and is NOT acceptable.
Iether this is a player based economy, or its isnt! There are no grey areas here.
You still make every SINGLE piece that goes INTO these ships. Every ship except for the Yacht and that ship is useless. They are now making the stuff you make better. Why are you complaining? Your stock just went UP, not down.
You can't tell me you can't make money off of the parts that go into ships. I just got done upgrading my YT with player-made items and I bought them at a pretty inexpensive price compared to most shops on my server.
Know how much I spent? Nearly a million credits, that's how much. Then I got a Y-8 (for free HA!) and you know what I have to do now? Buy more stuff for it. Stuff YOU make. If it was a ship I had to buy it would be extremely expensive and I wouldn't have it. I also wouldn't by BUYING pieces to put into it would I? No. Same goes for a lot of people. Believe it or not you may very well make more money like this since more people will be needing new parts and there are now 6 ship slots.
You can make money and the economy will continue as it always has. Stop being so greedy.
Message Edited by RSQViper on 05-07-2005 03:13 PM
Greedy? GREEDY? You know where you canshove that comment!
What you post here would make sense if the player made components were better than what is looted!
Message Edited by silversaber on 05-07-2005 12:42 PM
Rypht wrote:
Thunderheart wrote:
Just an FYI for Shipwrights. Crafted Engines and Capacitors should be getting stat increases across the board in the next live update. This should make it so that crafted versions of these ship components can be crafted at a higher quality than looted components.
too little too late, this has been an issue since jtl beta, 6 month turn around on asimple numbers tweak is appalling
AnzelVincir wrote:
Silversaber have you tried out the Jedi Starfigher? I will most likely never be able to sell another chassis again. It is 90K mass. Half the size of a baby chuba. Two weapons mounts. Turns and stops on a dime. Has neat flippy wings. And oh yeah... ITS FREE.