Shipwright Archive
Thread: Ship pricing
Simans
Sat Oct 30, 2004 12:40 pm
#40
You can still make 500 k something per hour doing missions. Not to speak about the crafter with the hugh bank accounts I got my char up to 20 mill doing missions (some nice loot). So I don't think asking 1-5 mill for a complete schip is to much. For CPU pricing of components I'll go for 15-25 depending on the resource used and the time spent crafting. For chassis that's the same if made with high end resources if quality doesn't matter to the consumer I'll go arround 5cpu like most people indicate.
Edit: quoted wrong post
Message Edited by Simans on 10-30-2004 09:43 AM
oWsCloned
Sat Oct 30, 2004 12:56 pm
#41
I have been pricing my novice ships at 15-20k, level 1 25-35k, level 2 75k, level 3 150k. I haven't reached level 4 yet for chassis'. I can't afford to just throw away 10-20k of resources per chassis grinding, so i sell them. I have been making deals with players trying to build a customer base (I sold 2 level 3s for 100k, and a couple level 2s for 45k). The real business is goingto be in the consumables for pilots- engine, armor, chaff, weapons, etc. If I can put someone in a chassis they're gonna want to outfit it. Thats where the repeat business is going to come from. The hardest part right now is that resource sellers are gouging prices. I saw 100k of steel priced at 1.8 million today. It wasn't even that good. If I have to buy resources then I have to raise my prices to recoup my loses. I am trying to harvest as much as possible to keep prices down, but the resource demands for shipwright make it a losing battle.
GadonThek
Sat Oct 30, 2004 3:43 pm
#42
I would just like to pop in a comment from the customer's point of view.
Shipwright, just like all crafting professions, deserves to have a viable, long term, profitable business, but please, dont take it too far. Its understandable that you have a zeal for your profession, but the pricing scheme I have seen some Shipwrights putting out there is just ridiculous.
Ive come back to the game for JTL, and my old character was deleted. Although it's been fun being a "noob" again, Ill never be able to afford a ship if 6 mil for a tier two becomes the norm. Not everyone wants to pick the FOTM template and grind janta missions on Dantooine for 5 hours a day, in fact I would probably commit suicide if I even attempted it, grinding missions is one of the most horrifingly boring things to do in SWG, and for those of us that do not posses the mentality capable of constant grinding, making such large amounts of cash is next to impossible.
As I say, you deserve a viable profession, but please dont price to the top 20% of your server, that just leaves the rest of us out in the cold.
Shipwright, just like all crafting professions, deserves to have a viable, long term, profitable business, but please, dont take it too far. Its understandable that you have a zeal for your profession, but the pricing scheme I have seen some Shipwrights putting out there is just ridiculous.
Ive come back to the game for JTL, and my old character was deleted. Although it's been fun being a "noob" again, Ill never be able to afford a ship if 6 mil for a tier two becomes the norm. Not everyone wants to pick the FOTM template and grind janta missions on Dantooine for 5 hours a day, in fact I would probably commit suicide if I even attempted it, grinding missions is one of the most horrifingly boring things to do in SWG, and for those of us that do not posses the mentality capable of constant grinding, making such large amounts of cash is next to impossible.
As I say, you deserve a viable profession, but please dont price to the top 20% of your server, that just leaves the rest of us out in the cold.
moody628
Sat Oct 30, 2004 5:11 pm
#43
Vexor wrote:
I'm not in shipwright for the credits, tinkering with cars or ships, I like the "tuning" aspect of shipwright and will not be looking to be the most distiguished or richest shipwright in the galaxy, just having fun and selling HQ stuff that everyone can afford. I didn't collect resources for months to be rich... I could be rich if I just kept all thecredits and time I spent collection those resources : )
Oh, really?
Well, I'm a noob player, and I can afford a whopping 250 credits, because that's what they gave me. Please give me the WP for your vendor where I can buy a ship (and you should probably throw in an engine, while you're at it) for my 250 credits.
Sound ridiculous to you to? Well, that's what I thought when I saw it. Try this on for size, why don't you?
I'm a player who's managed to master an elite combat profession. I can spend 12k to buff out all my stats for a money session. In that time frame with a solo group, I can make $300k to $900k (depending on my profession). And I'm going to complain that you're ripping me off because you want to charge me $150k for a Tier 2 ship. It comes to 90 minutes of my time to EARN the thing, or even 30 minutes if I'm an uber combatant... and you're the one ripping me off.
Geez, Louise, folks. They're paying 1 million credits for a freakin' tube of glue!!! They can afford 6 figures for a STARSHIP!!!
Khristen
Sat Oct 30, 2004 5:37 pm
#44
moody628 wrote:
Geez, Louise, folks. They're paying 1 million credits for a freakin' tube of glue!!! They can afford 6 figures for a STARSHIP!!!
5 stars for you! That's an awesome way to put it into perspective.
moody628
Sat Oct 30, 2004 5:50 pm
#45
Demio_Olaron wrote:
I think SW should try to sell for as little as they can. I'm grinding SW right now and I think we should try to help space get populated
Doh! It's as populated as it's going to get!!! EVERY pilot gets a free ship. Every last person that CAN fly a ship HAS a ship to fly.
This little detail's already been taken care of.
moody628
Sat Oct 30, 2004 5:56 pm
#46
Khristen wrote:
moody628 wrote:
Geez, Louise, folks. They're paying 1 million credits for a freakin' tube of glue!!! They can afford 6 figures for a STARSHIP!!!
5 stars for you! That's an awesome way to put it into perspective.
Thank you. 
In my experience, it's usually the power gamers who could most afford it that complain the most about the prices. (From other crafter professions... too soon to tell for SW.) There are players that I *know* have 6 million or more in their accounts that are complaining about 6k for a blueprint.
laminator0
Sat Oct 30, 2004 6:00 pm
#47
1. what stats of resources we use in starship chassis or equip? hr/ma/sr/oq/ut... look to AS or WS -they use SAME resources, and they easy pay 10-100 cpu!!! how many they need for make 1? 100-1000? i'm sorry but find (buy, extract, contract miner) 100-1000 resources per item more easy then 15000-150000!!! so i need set price higher then WS or AS and say -bring to me only 7k+ steel!
2. WS or AS can easy sell per day 1k items, even if he charge 100 credits, he got 100k... 3M per month. what about SW? no factories, no customers, no vendor register, not enoughresources for extract (sorry but 100k really not enough amount - it 1 1/2 of starship). so after day of hand-made work i must charge same 100credits? 100 resources for WS/AS and 100cr profit, and 150k resources and still 100cr profit for MSW??? make this 150k credits plz, tnx u
3. ok u can say to me - look on bazaar tier 5 ships sold by 6k creds. aye. i see this all time. when i spent millions resources (sorry i forgot -i cannot return money from MSW grindedresources -this option only for WS/AS) in 2 hours and achieve Master Shipwrighter title -i see alot noobs under my legs with /yell selling cheap starships... yes from RED resources, so after buy this customer coming to me and said =i cannot buy your blaster - not have mass on my ship. i not worry about fools what cannot kill mokks and gain 1M creds per bufftime, also i not worry about fools bought cheap and nasty fighters
what way u wanna went? cheap and nasty or best and awesome?
GadonThek
Sun Oct 31, 2004 6:53 pm
#48
"Geez, Louise, folks. They're paying 1 million credits for a freakin' tube of glue!!! They can afford 6 figures for a STARSHIP!!!"
Who the hell is "they"? I sure as hell cant afford 1 million credits for a tube of glue, hell I dont even have 100k, let alone 1 mil. Nobody I know would have an issue with 6 figures for a ship, but its not 6 figures for a ship, its 6 figures for a blueprint, which we then have to have turned into a chassis(another 6 figures) and equip(another 6, perhaps 7 figures).
500k for a ship I can fly? =
500k for a blueprint I have to spend another 1 mil to fly? =
Who the hell is "they"? I sure as hell cant afford 1 million credits for a tube of glue, hell I dont even have 100k, let alone 1 mil. Nobody I know would have an issue with 6 figures for a ship, but its not 6 figures for a ship, its 6 figures for a blueprint, which we then have to have turned into a chassis(another 6 figures) and equip(another 6, perhaps 7 figures).
500k for a ship I can fly? =
500k for a blueprint I have to spend another 1 mil to fly? =
RagNoRock5x
Sun Oct 31, 2004 9:24 pm
#49
GadonThek wrote:
"Geez, Louise, folks. They're paying 1 million credits for a freakin' tube of glue!!! They can afford 6 figures for a STARSHIP!!!"
Who the hell is "they"? I sure as hell cant afford 1 million credits for a tube of glue, hell I dont even have 100k, let alone 1 mil. Nobody I know would have an issue with 6 figures for a ship, but its not 6 figures for a ship, its 6 figures for a blueprint, which we then have to have turned into a chassis(another 6 figures) and equip(another 6, perhaps 7 figures).
500k for a ship I can fly? =
500k for a blueprint I have to spend another 1 mil to fly? =
Which is why 10CPU is good for chassis and 20 CPU for components.
Good Profit, Not to expensive.
Resources required - Cost
Components 20 CPU
Mark I - 200 4k
Mark II - 500 10k
Mark III - 1000 20k
Mark IV - 2500 50k
Mark V - 5000 100k
Mark I - 200 4k
Mark II - 500 10k
Mark III - 1000 20k
Mark IV - 2500 50k
Mark V - 5000 100k
Chasis 10 CPU
Tier 1 - 5000 50k
Tier 2 - 15000 150k
Tier 3 - 30000 300k
Tier 4 - 60000 600k
Tier 5 - 80000 800k
Master - 130000 1.3 Million
Tier 1 - 5000 50k
Tier 2 - 15000 150k
Tier 3 - 30000 300k
Tier 4 - 60000 600k
Tier 5 - 80000 800k
Master - 130000 1.3 Million
Full Ship
Tier 1 - 80k (chassis + 10 Components - 10k)
Tier 2 - 220k (chassis + 10 Components - 30k)
Tier 3 - 450k (chassis + 10 Components - 50k)
Tier 4 - 1.0 Million (chassis + 10 Componetns - 100k)
Tier 5 - 1.6 Million (chassis + 10 Components - 200k)
Master - 2.0 Million(chassis + 10 Components - 300k)
Message Edited by RagNoRock5x on 10-31-2004 10:27 PM
Message Edited by RagNoRock5x on 10-31-2004 10:28 PM
VelexRose
Sun Oct 31, 2004 10:18 pm
#50
Multiple vendors on Starsider selling TIE Aggressors and TIE Advanced for 144k.
That's less than 1 cpu if I have my resources right.
TIE interceptors, 120k. Longbows Xwings equally priced that low.
Dessimus
Sun Oct 31, 2004 10:32 pm
#51
RagNoRock5x wrote:
GadonThek wrote:
"Geez, Louise, folks. They're paying 1 million credits for a freakin' tube of glue!!! They can afford 6 figures for a STARSHIP!!!"
Who the hell is "they"? I sure as hell cant afford 1 million credits for a tube of glue, hell I dont even have 100k, let alone 1 mil. Nobody I know would have an issue with 6 figures for a ship, but its not 6 figures for a ship, its 6 figures for a blueprint, which we then have to have turned into a chassis(another 6 figures) and equip(another 6, perhaps 7 figures).
500k for a ship I can fly? =
500k for a blueprint I have to spend another 1 mil to fly? =Which is why 10CPU is good for chassis and 20 CPU for components.Good Profit, Not to expensive.Resources required - CostComponents 20 CPU
Mark I - 200 4k
Mark II - 500 10k
Mark III - 1000 20k
Mark IV - 2500 50k
Mark V - 5000 100kChasis 10 CPU
Tier 1 - 5000 50k
Tier 2 - 15000 150k
Tier 3 - 30000 300k
Tier 4 - 60000 600k
Tier 5 - 80000 800k
Master - 130000 1.3 Million
Full Ship
Tier 1 - 80k (chassis + 10 Components - 10k)
Tier 2 - 220k (chassis + 10 Components - 30k)
Tier 3 - 450k (chassis + 10 Components - 50k)
Tier 4 - 1.0 Million (chassis + 10 Componetns - 100k)
Tier 5 - 1.6 Million (chassis + 10 Components - 200k)
Master - 2.0 Million (chassis + 10 Components - 300k)Message Edited by RagNoRock5x on 10-31-2004 10:27 PM
Message Edited by RagNoRock5x on 10-31-2004 10:28 PM
This is the exact same pricing that I have been using although I am not totally set on it yet. I was wondering what other people think about these pricing guidelines. Many people have complained that 50k is too much to pay for a newbie chassis. So I just lowered my price to 30k for tier 1 blueprints, 100k for tier 2 blueprints but again I am not set on this price yet either. While I find it perfectly acceptable to charge 50k for tier 1 and 150k for tier 2 blueprints, many people seem to object to that. I think most people don't seem to realize/care that a tier 2 blueprint requires like 15000 resources. I think that a tier 1 blueprint should cost more than a damn speeder bike, but what do I know? I AM set on 20cpu for components though. unless I really can't sell anything my component price will remain at that level. I don't think 4000 credits is unreasonable for mk1 components.
DasAdin
Sun Oct 31, 2004 10:44 pm
#52
I am ready to buy any components for 4k and turn around to sell them at 5k. Also, I sell at 10 until I get to Tier 4 where it slopes down to 8.3cpu, 5 is 8.125cpu and 6 is 8cpu. I can jujst imagine people cringing when i tell them my x-wings are 500k, but I sell them at that price so I keep it there.