Shipwright Archive
Thread: SHIPWRIGHTS NEED FACTORIES!
pneumonic81
Tue Oct 26, 2004 10:38 am
#27
i didnt cry, i made an observation. franky i dont think i need to be judged by u sir. i have been quite patient in dealing with you. i have nto been rude and all i get in return for my comment is rudeness on your part. if you dont agree with my opinion state your reason, and thats fine ill be happy to have a civil discussion. but if your gonna flame me for my opinion then with all due respect please do me a favor and go to another thead.
Zaket
Tue Oct 26, 2004 10:42 am
#28
Sammeria wrote:
I mean what other crafting profession can't you make factory runs.
Bio-Engineers.
They're similar to shipwrights in that they can only make subcomponents (tissues) in factories and those subcomponents are not even for their use, but for Tailors and Chefs. They're also a lot worse off when it comes to resources in that a large part of their subcomponent resources are animal based (meat, milk, mollusc) and has to be harvested by hand. All the DNA for their main source of income (BE pets) has to be hand harvested by the BE and is generally dangerous work.
Imagine how you would feel if you had to hand sample resources and each time you did there was a fair chance you would die. 
Edit: for spelling
Message Edited by Zaket on 10-26-2004 10:43 AM
Estan
Tue Oct 26, 2004 11:05 am
#29
pneumonic81 wrote:
i didnt cry, i made an observation. franky i dont think i need to be judged by u sir. i have been quite patient in dealing with you. i have nto been rude and all i get in return for my comment is rudeness on your part. if you dont agree with my opinion state your reason, and thats fine ill be happy to have a civil discussion. but if your gonna flame me for my opinion then with all due respect please do me a favor and go to another thead.
You want to know whats funny is,I seen u in beta, you were active in the beta boards. Why bring this over here, this topic was played out. You know this.
Just by the title of it and the first post, its a cry. If you did not want to be taken as a cry then you might of worked it different.
Maybe something like this "lets sound off on the factory for ship parts idea, think it will change?"
Look bro I'm not trying to flam you, and if you take it that way, I can not change that. The fact is its a done subject.
ZenDragonMLS
Tue Oct 26, 2004 11:09 am
#30
The decision is currently made. It may change in the future when we have more experience with the shipwright business. It won't change soon.
You two might want to either agree to disagree and/or take your quarrel to private messages - it isn't adding much to the subject.
You two might want to either agree to disagree and/or take your quarrel to private messages - it isn't adding much to the subject.
Sammeria
Tue Oct 26, 2004 11:14 am
#31
But chef's and taylor's can both use the tissues in factory runs.
Zaket wrote:
Sammeria wrote:
I mean what other crafting profession can't you make factory runs.
Bio-Engineers.
They're similar to shipwrights in that they can only make subcomponents (tissues) in factories and those subcomponents are not even for their use, but for Tailors and Chefs. They're also a lot worse off when it comes to resources in that a large part of their subcomponent resources are animal based (meat, milk, mollusc) and has to be harvested by hand. All the DNA for their main source of income (BE pets) has to be hand harvested by the BE and is generally dangerous work.
Imagine how you would feel if you had to hand sample resources and each time you did there was a fair chance you would die.
pneumonic81
Tue Oct 26, 2004 11:37 am
#32
Sammeria wrote:
But chef's and taylor's can both use the tissues in factory runs.
Zaket wrote:
Sammeria wrote:
I mean what other crafting profession can't you make factory runs.
Bio-Engineers.
They're similar to shipwrights in that they can only make subcomponents (tissues) in factories and those subcomponents are not even for their use, but for Tailors and Chefs. They're also a lot worse off when it comes to resources in that a large part of their subcomponent resources are animal based (meat, milk, mollusc) and has to be harvested by hand. All the DNA for their main source of income (BE pets) has to be hand harvested by the BE and is generally dangerous work.
Imagine how you would feel if you had to hand sample resources and each time you did there was a fair chance you would die.
atleast we can run sub components, thats something.
fatgato
Tue Oct 26, 2004 1:16 pm
#33
pneumonic81 wrote:
Sammeria wrote:
But chef's and taylor's can both use the tissues in factory runs.
Zaket wrote:
Sammeria wrote:
I mean what other crafting profession can't you make factory runs.
Bio-Engineers.
They're similar to shipwrights in that they can only make subcomponents (tissues) in factories and those subcomponents are not even for their use, but for Tailors and Chefs. They're also a lot worse off when it comes to resources in that a large part of their subcomponent resources are animal based (meat, milk, mollusc) and has to be harvested by hand. All the DNA for their main source of income (BE pets) has to be hand harvested by the BE and is generally dangerous work.
Imagine how you would feel if you had to hand sample resources and each time you did there was a fair chance you would die.
atleast we can run sub components, thats something.
I disagree completley, I think we need it for everything but the chassis.
pneumonic81
Tue Oct 26, 2004 1:29 pm
#34
well i woudlnt liek to have that too. especially for bulk compoentns. however it has been noted we wont be getting it. still some interest in this thread and perhaps the devs might see it and consider our request.
fatgato wrote:
I disagree completley, I think we need it for everything but the chassis.
Tanmorgulion
Tue Oct 26, 2004 3:33 pm
#35
This topic was beat to death in the beta and the devs never replied. Well they did once and they pretty much told us to fuc|< off. That was well over a month ago and haven't heard anything more on the topic from a red name since.
ChaosKittyExtreme
Tue Oct 26, 2004 4:22 pm
#36
/dissagree
I like the thought of hand crafting each part.
Jordan_Karr
Tue Oct 26, 2004 6:15 pm
#37
Hand crafting will quickly cut out those who are doing it just to try and make a massive profit and those who are doing it for the fun and full experiance...
By having to hand craft you solve several problems...
Lot Trades
- this way 30 factories are not churnning out millions worth of equipment and ships
Forces Customer interaction not this blind hit a vendor and instent satisfaction!
Shipwrights are the CUSTOM "CHOPPER/CAR" Guys of SWG... not Mass production Plants
thats what Sienar Fleet Systems(TIES) and Kuat Drive Yards(Star Destroyers)and Corellian Engineering Corp(YT-1300s) are all about!!
Message Edited by Jordan_Karr on 10-26-2004 06:16 PM
LonelyGhost
Tue Oct 26, 2004 6:27 pm
#38
pneumonic81 wrote:
...all im saying is i want to fly also, not spend eveyr day making ships for u and i have to craft ever single part msyelf....
So dont craft. Its not that hard. I would love to be able to buff myself, but that would mean dropping the skills I like. SO I dont buff myself. I would also love to run the DWB or Vette, but I would have to drop skills I value more to get the combat skills I would need. Lucky for you, Pilot does not take any skill points, so you can be a SW and still fly. So, just craft for yourself then. Lots of people will be doing it to avoid paying someone else. Set an expectation for how much time you want to fly, as it seems this might e more important, then fill in those other hours with crafting.
And to the person who complained there are already too many time sinks in game? Thats what this kind of game is *designed* to do! Soak up as much time as it can, so you will keep paying every month! If they removed all the time sinks, you would "beat" the game in a month, and quit! Its in their best interest to "encourage" you to spend as much time as possible playing the game. Once you accept that fact, it seems to get easier to swallow the little things that annoy us.
ZenDragonMLS
Tue Oct 26, 2004 6:34 pm
#39
We all have different definitions of what things we enjoy and what we don't. I try to make a point NOT to judge how other people choose to have fun based on *my* preferences.
I'm not suggesting that we wait and have a dialog in 1-2 months because I believe the anti-Evil-factory-users faction is correct. I'm suggesting it because I don't believe we'll be able to have a meaningful dialog with the developers prior to that - it's strictly pragmatics on my part.
Right now it doesn't matter what I think, or what you think - the fact remains that the use of a factory to run shipwright products is curtailed at the moment. I think that beating our gums about it now is a total waste of everyone's time. I would rather spend my time - and yours - addressing the host of other issues that we'll need to sort out about this profession.
I'm not suggesting that we wait and have a dialog in 1-2 months because I believe the anti-Evil-factory-users faction is correct. I'm suggesting it because I don't believe we'll be able to have a meaningful dialog with the developers prior to that - it's strictly pragmatics on my part.
Right now it doesn't matter what I think, or what you think - the fact remains that the use of a factory to run shipwright products is curtailed at the moment. I think that beating our gums about it now is a total waste of everyone's time. I would rather spend my time - and yours - addressing the host of other issues that we'll need to sort out about this profession.