Scout Archive
Thread: A little help with trapping?
No I'm not saying that at all and you might want to read the threads on it again since, going by your reply anyways, you don't seem to be catching all the facts. I'm saying that the possibilities should be exhausted first considering the main ones that seem to be having problems are the ones with very low trapping skill, i.e. they waited to grind that part of scout or else decided to master scout/get some ranger as an afterthought. There's absolutely no indication there that Trapping is actually broken, just people trying to trap high things with low skill.
THEREFORE, I'm saying that they should try the trapping droid and dweezil, who knows if the tapes actually work or not, so many other attachments and BE clothing is broken right now that it's hard to say. If they use a droid and dweezil, which should add 70-80 if they buy decent droids and dweezil, and they still can't land a trap and it's multiple people, not just one person, then I'll be one of the first to log in upon reading that evidence and /bug trapping.
Sorry if I'm snapping at anyone but I'm just tired of people crying wolf without actually doing any thorough testing of their own first and I've read nothing to indicate that what I'm suggesting has been done yet.
Message Edited by Ronaj on 06-12-2005 06:36 PM
audiovicious wrote:
I'm new? Sorry? :/
lol not you, if you're new it's understandable, I have no problems with new players, we were all there once.
Ronaj wrote:
No I'm not saying that at all and you might want to read the threads on it again since, going by your reply anyways, you don't seem to be catching all the facts. I'm saying that the possibilities should be exhausted first considering the main ones that seem to be having problems are the ones with very low trapping skill, i.e. they waited to grind that part of scout or else decided to master scout/get some ranger as an afterthought. There's absolutely no indication there that Trapping is actually broken, just people trying to trap high things with low skill.
THEREFORE, I'm saying that they should try the trapping droid and dweezil, who knows if the tapes actually work or not, so many other attachments and BE clothing is broken right now that it's hard to say. If they use a droid and dweezil, which should add 70-80 if they buy decent droids and dweezil, and they still can't land a trap and it's multiple people, not just one person, then I'll be one of the first to log in upon reading that evidence and /bug trapping.
Sorry if I'm snapping at anyone but I'm just tired of people crying wolf without actually doing any thorough testing of their own first and I've read nothing to indicate that what I'm suggesting has been done yet.
Message Edited by Ronaj on 06-12-2005 06:36 PM
Here's the deal. If a person can't, at any level, go back and start in on scouting and and use the 2 traps they get at novice scout to hit anything within there CL that will give xp, then SOMETHING IS WRONG.
Get off the fact that some of these people including me waited until we were a few levels up to start in on trapping. In a game like this that you can freely change professions anytime you want, there needs to be a way for you to earn the xp you need.
Sure the droid and food may help, and I will certainly go try to find some, but that doesn't really change the fact that trapping is way out of line compared to most other types of xp earned now. Maybe if I had started throwing traps the minute I landed with this toon I could have earned some xp off the level 1-4 yard trash, but who knew at level 17 you would be hard pressed to earn any?
Circumstances were that I had a good hunting group going all day with my wife and some friends and I got to level 17 without getting any traps to stick. So when they left I went to get some level 15 missions and proceeded to get like 2 in 10 traps to stick on creatures that I can only sometimes kill by myself. This is an infuriating nightmare in an otherwise pretty decent game.
I have played since Aug 1st '03 and done 3 or 4 scout/BH/ranger type toons before that required master scout. Trapping was always my least favorite part but it was never this bad before!!
I don't know about the rest of you, but I can /bug this without waiting for Ronaj to say its ok with him...... 
Ok first of all so sue me if I see both sides here. With all the bugs and things going on right now I would imagine that making any changes to trapping is pretty low on the devs list right now, considering how they seem to do things a lot of times they'll probably look into it, see if it can be done with dweezil and droids, if it can then they'll probably take the attitude of it can wait. That's all I'm saying. How many times someone has gone through scout is irrelevant just as is if someone else /bugs it or not. I've just been saying that because of the fact that I see both sides and also for further informative purposes for all parties involved that I think there needs to be more testing by the players. The more it's documented that there's a problem with getting traps to stick even with using droids/dweezil then the more players can /bug it and the faster it'll get fixed, at least in theory. If hardly anyone tests it and it's just reported with /bug then that puts more of the load on the devs, causing them to check into it more and pushing a fix back, thereby making Scouts/Rangers have to put up with it longer. Now does anyone see the logic of what I've been trying to say and why I've been saying to try using droids/dweezil first?
I've also just been trying to say that if you've got a low skill at anything then naturally you're going to have some difficulties doing things, that applies to any skill in any profession.
Message Edited by Ronaj on 06-12-2005 10:57 PM
Ronaj wrote:
Ok first of all so sue me if I see both sides here. With all the bugs and things going on right now I would imagine that making any changes to trapping is pretty low on the devs list right now, considering how they seem to do things a lot of times they'll probably look into it, see if it can be done with dweezil and droids, if it can then they'll probably take the attitude of it can wait. That's all I'm saying. How many times someone has gone through scout is irrelevant just as is if someone else /bugs it or not. I've just been saying that because of the fact that I see both sides and also for further informative purposes for all parties involved that I think there needs to be more testing by the players. The more it's documented that there's a problem with getting traps to stick even with using droids/dweezil then the more players can /bug it and the faster it'll get fixed, at least in theory. If hardly anyone tests it and it's just reported with /bug then that puts more of the load on the devs, causing them to check into it more and pushing a fix back, thereby making Scouts/Rangers have to put up with it longer. Now does anyone see the logic of what I've been trying to say and why I've been saying to try using droids/dweezil first?
I've also just been trying to say that if you've got a low skill at anything then naturally you're going to have some difficulties doing things, that applies to any skill in any profession.
Message Edited by Ronaj on 06-12-2005 10:57 PM
Just from the little bit of reading I have done tonight I can see that plenty of things have been tested and the general consensus is that trapping is broken/not working as intended.
Many things including the droids and food have been tested in the last 2 weeks, there really is no need for each one of us to test the same things over and over.
If you are lucky enough to be low enough level before starting on trapping then the food and droid may help. If not you are SOL. End of story until they fix it. ( and I am sure you are right, its not too high on their priority list so we can all just sit and spin until they get around to fixing it or do something else with our skill points)
Umiio
Don't bother with the droid depending on your CL, now hope I don't get flamed for posting it here as well but I'll quote what I had just put in the Trapping Droids thread
"I brought this up over on the DE boards and it turns out that as far as trapping droids go, they have a CL of 18 and for purposes of what they can hit with traps that is used more so than the actual trapping mod."
...I guess I'm lucky that I've been trapping since I started...for the most part. I'm a CL 10 now and I can still trap most critters form 1-5.
It's the camping bug that's driving me crazy!!!
