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Thread: TH please consider this Rifleman change

DavidGX
Sun Aug 01, 2004 5:45 pm
#79



Xytroncore wrote:


DavidGX wrote:

You seriously think that devs will nerf BUFFS and ARMOR and leave weapon damage untouched?? 600+ max is KRAYTED, NOT ODINARY, NOT the average t21. Same for legendary/exceptional ones.

You also seem to have conveniently left out the SEVENTY FIVE PERCENT PVP DAMAGE REDUCTION.


Uh no, I haven't left out the 75% PvP reduction, try not wearing any armor for a change, notice how you get hit for 1500+ A LOT by riflemen, now factor in 30% resists using a general model for the new armor maxes, how much of that gets through the armor? Oh look, it's over 1000 damage (and no, I didn't factor in the AR1 of the armor or AP3 of the T21, but it'd only go to show the T21 doing even more damage since AP levels don't kick in against targets with 0% resists).
And whoop dee do, a krayted T21, 11 identical krayt tissues is easier to come by then the DE10 pistol and barrel that we pistoleers NEED to PvP (ontop of the tissue it needs too).

Message Edited by Xytroncore on 08-01-2004 05:22 PM





I have never, ever, EVER hit someone for 1500+. Armored, unarmored.. etc. NEVER. Whoever did that to you had a legendary/exception T21. And you can't nerf a prof because there's legendary weapons that drop for it. ALL profs have legendary weapons that drop for them.

30% resists?? What is this? A made up number? A stupid assumption?

Ok so .. you're gonna NERF a profession because of an unbalanced HAM system, LEGENDARY WEAPONS, MADE UP NUMBERS and stupid assumptions?

Yeah.. you rule. Seriously. Friggen genius over here.

Xytroncore
Sun Aug 01, 2004 5:47 pm
#80






Kiodo wrote:



while we are at it...lets nerf swordsmen because they can hit for over 1k straight to the mind in 1 shot with a 600+ dmg AP2 powerhammer


/endsarcasm







Why? At least they have to get within 10m of you to use something so powerful, they also have far less deffences then a riflemen, AND they have something like 1/2 the accuracy. They're 100x more balanced then riflemen is.



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LiakyK
Sun Aug 01, 2004 5:47 pm
#81

Arguing with you is like arguing with someone who wants everything. You wanna slow us down and lower our attacks? I want the same status defense that pistoleers get. +50 to KD/Dizzy/Stun and anything else. DOnt you think that is fair?



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Xytroncore
Sun Aug 01, 2004 5:49 pm
#82






LiakyK wrote:
Arguing with you is like arguing with someone who wants everything. You wanna slow us down and lower our attacks? I want the same status defense that pistoleers get. +50 to KD/Dizzy/Stun and anything else. DOnt you think that is fair?





I'd give you mine if I could, they don't do ANYTHING until you cap them at 125. And if I actually wanted everything I'd have been a riflemen a long time ago.



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DavidGX
Sun Aug 01, 2004 5:50 pm
#83



LiakyK wrote:
Arguing with you is like arguing with someone who wants everything. You wanna slow us down and lower our attacks? I want the same status defense that pistoleers get. +50 to KD/Dizzy/Stun and anything else. DOnt you think that is fair?




You can't argue with these people dude.. they look at rifleman pwning peoples mind pools and go ".....NURF RIFLEMANZ OMG!!!" without stopping to look at WHY it happend. The MIND POOL is to blame here, not rifleman.

LiakyK
Sun Aug 01, 2004 5:51 pm
#84



Xytroncore wrote:


LiakyK wrote:
Arguing with you is like arguing with someone who wants everything. You wanna slow us down and lower our attacks? I want the same status defense that pistoleers get. +50 to KD/Dizzy/Stun and anything else. DOnt you think that is fair?


I'd give you mine if I could, they don't do ANYTHING until you cap them at 125. And if I actually wanted everything I'd have been a riflemen a long time ago.



I dabled in the Pistoleer Defense line for a while. And that +50 KD sure did make one hell of a difference compared to the Zero we get.



Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather...
to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out and loudly proclaiming: "WOW - What a ride!"
Xytroncore
Sun Aug 01, 2004 5:55 pm
#85






DavidGX wrote:





Xytroncore wrote:






DavidGX wrote:

You seriously think that devs will nerf BUFFS and ARMOR and leave weapon damage untouched?? 600+ max is KRAYTED, NOT ODINARY, NOT the average t21. Same for legendary/exceptional ones.

You also seem to have conveniently left out the SEVENTY FIVE PERCENT PVP DAMAGE REDUCTION.





Uh no, I haven't left out the 75% PvP reduction, try not wearing any armor for a change, notice how you get hit for 1500+ A LOT by riflemen, now factor in 30% resists using a general model for the new armor maxes, how much of that gets through the armor? Oh look, it's over 1000 damage (and no, I didn't factor in the AR1 of the armor or AP3 of the T21, but it'd only go to show the T21 doing even more damage since AP levels don't kick in against targets with 0% resists).


And whoop dee do, a krayted T21, 11 identical krayt tissues is easier to come by then the DE10 pistol and barrel that we pistoleers NEED to PvP (ontop of the tissue it needs too).

Message Edited by Xytroncore on 08-01-2004 05:22 PM






I have never, ever, EVER hit someone for 1500+. Armored, unarmored.. etc. NEVER. Whoever did that to you had a legendary/exception T21. And you can't nerf a prof because there's legendary weapons that drop for it. ALL profs have legendary weapons that drop for them.

30% resists?? What is this? A made up number? A stupid assumption?

Ok so .. you're gonna NERF a profession because of an unbalanced HAM system, LEGENDARY WEAPONS, MADE UP NUMBERS and stupid assumptions?

Yeah.. you rule. Seriously. Friggen genius over here.






Ya, you're so right, they're going to nerf armor to something that's only like 70% max (when the legendary armors are only around 70 max), you do **edit**ing know they're going to make it so normal armor is WAY below the mando/RIS/BH armors right? You're in for a nice **edit**ing surprise then if you can't see this, have fun **edit**tard.


And I'm not talking about legendary weapons **edit**, clearly I'm talking with a guy who thinks buying a stock weapon and adding a PU on it without even a slice is **edit**ing uber... whatever man, you'll figure out krayt tissue/gorax bones/other loot sometime.


Whatever man, have fun, I already KNOW what's happening in the CB, don't believe me for all I care, doesn't bother me.




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LiakyK
Sun Aug 01, 2004 5:55 pm
#86

I dunno about that. I had a TKM at one time trying for like 5 minutes to KD me when I had the +50.



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Sleksheea
Sun Aug 01, 2004 6:06 pm
#87






LiakyK wrote:
I dunno about that. I had a TKM at one time trying for like 5 minutes to KD me when I had the +50.





Were you a TKA at the time? They have Defence Acuity which VERY SIGNIFIGANTLY increases defences (including any state defences you have).



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LiakyK
Sun Aug 01, 2004 6:10 pm
#88

I had no brawler profession at the time. I was Master Squad Leader/Master Riflemen/Trickshot



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mojen
Sun Aug 01, 2004 6:12 pm
#89



Well something needs to be done about riflemen. They have too much powerful and out shine the other range professions

-Range Death blow

-Can target the mind pool

-Stun damage

-Acid damage

-Heavy AP

Message Edited by mojen on 08-01-2004 06:16 PM

LiakyK
Sun Aug 01, 2004 6:14 pm
#90

I like how people complain about our ranged DB then say we should be snipers. It sounds like an oxymoron. Basically what your askin is for all 5 of those to be changed so we become a useless profession?



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mojen
Sun Aug 01, 2004 6:25 pm
#91




LiakyK wrote:
I like how people complain about our ranged DB then say we should be snipers. It sounds like an oxymoron. Basically what your askin is for all 5 of those to be changed so we become a useless profession?





No thats all the thing that make riflemen WAY stronger then other range professions.

You know riflemen is too strong when you can solo an at-st. If you can honestly tell me that its fair for a SNIPER to solo a tank with legs known as an AT-ST then you are lying to your self
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