Rifleman Archive

Tek, it's time to adapt.Last night my PvP experience went far better then yours and I was fighting an AT-ST.You can't just spam HS3 and expect a kill, the game now involves more strategy then cycling targets and hitting an attack (when you get down to it it's a good thing). You messed up on your attack and here's what you did wrong:

1) You went in alone. Always have some back up. You know you're going to get knocked down but if you are they're going to use anywhere from 1/6 - 1/10 of their HAM bar. For example TKAs now use huge amounts of mind in their take downs so DoT'd they can easily kill themselves if they spam.

2) Don't attack at 64 meters try to attack at 60. Q mentioned what attacking at 64 meters is like for everyone so keep in your optimal range.

3) Hit and run is good. If you can't kill him in one shot use DoTs to weaken him up and then take off forcing him to run to you. It's basically what you do with a melee but without firing back. Stuns will keep him from knocking you down but I haven't fully tested our stun. I didn't really use it pre-patch, one hit kill and all.

4) Sounds like you took on a higher level Bounty Hunter. You're going to have a hard time taking down better trained players which is yet another reason to get a group.

5) Your whole play style is too aggressive. You leave yourself out very exposed with no escape plan. It's way to risky a strategy to always hope to kill them through brute force on the assumption they wont retaliate this goes especially for someone who hasn't mastered their profesion yet.

PS:

Aldeon is doing a good job. We've had many of our major issues fixed and I don't think it's his fault that the Devs might have worked harder on Commandos then Riflemen.

tek do your homework before posting bs. disarmshot has no knockdown component but disarmshot 2 has which a pistoleer doesnt get before master pistoleer. the only knockdown a pistoleergetsuntil masteris pistol melee defense 1 which has a 7 m range. if you got knocked down at range i guess your enemy was a smuggler hybrid using lowblow.

all these whinings without knowing what you are talking about leadALL classesto nerfings and **edit** patches like the recent one....

Seelenlos, do yourself a favor and just shut your mouth. Itll keep you from making you from embarassing yourself anymore.

Disarm Shot IS a knockdown. It doesnt SAY its a knockdown but it IS a knockdown. As a PA Leader of an elite PvP PA I am aware of the capabilities of ALL the men and women that serve under me. Believe me, i wodnt post it if it wasnt true.

I did a bit of pvp tonight, and still did pretty good. Now, I'm nothing to write home about (3/1/1/1) but here is how I went.

The knockdown cost have been nerfed, so I noticed it his less used in PVP. Now Tek, it must have been a bit of bad luck, because a 200 HS 3 means it would have only been a 800 HS pre-patch, and not a one shot kill (although I grant you you would have killed him on thesecond shot pre-patch)

We have a knockdown, its called flurry shot + suppression fire (only if you took the ranged support, but with warning shot, most riflemen do). We can spam it under 2 seconds with a spraysticks. Then switch to a T21, MS2, HS3= dead target.

If not, the remaining bleed will kill him while still flat on his back.

I did it tonight in moenia, and I'm 5-3 with it. Not a perfect record, but as long as I win 50% of my pvp matches, I'm ok. You see, if you keep a 5-0 record during a night, and someone who is a human player is on the other side and gets 0-5, you'll start to hear "nerf riflemen".

But, try my tactic tek, it works for non-master Riflemen, hope it helps a bit, good luck on the battlefield.

my experience using a rifle during pvp today. Was dueling my friend to see what exactly changed, and I noticed that the damage decrease for both pistoleer and rifleman are way different. I normally strafeshot2 for 3k+, and now it's only 500 max. Headshot3 and 2 are basically worthless because it seems that pistoleers do almost the same damage as them. And using them so much basically kills me in the process, so that's worthless. Posture changes seem to be the best with dizzy, but when knocked down, what's the point? The change in damage between rifleman and pistoleer not even close to even. from 3k to 500 for a rifleman. And 1k stopping shot to like 150 or something for a pistoleer. Wow, I don't see how that's balanced.

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KaNViC240Sx wrote:
Oh, did I forget to mention that headshot3 is costing me 128 mind and headshot2 is costing me 84. While pistol shots are still only costing 29? I basically kill myself before I kill them.

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i noticed that as well ... my HS3 cost me 97 before patch and now its up to about 128.

/shrug

Wow....

I read the first page and have deturmined that sadly our Coraspondent and Tek are tow very childish posters.

I care not abought Tek's maturity level, but sadly I did expect more form our coraspondent.

Disapointed to say the least.

I knew it wouldn't be a smoothe ride with a member of Fatalis as our Correspondent. He doesn't realize that lots of rifleman like to solo because his PA is always running around like idiots killing every rebel they see with no purpose... when Tek first posted our "correspondent" basically tells him to get a group. Not every rifleman has a group and wants one either.

sorry taco but before posting read the whole thread. tek posted pistoleers get a ranged knockdown in the intermediate skill line which simply isnt true they get it at MASTER skillbox. what upsets me is that the topic of this thread was taken as true and suddenly about 1k threads with the "oh my rifleman is sooooo gimped - nerf the rest" popped all over your profession board. after i pointed out that he is wrong he simply told me to shut up cause i have no clue ( yeah sure i only have over 2.5 million exp in pistol - what do i know ) and started again with his elite pvp pa bs to seem more "legit".

Aldeaon..

"Im sorry, but knockdown doesnt kill you in one shot"

I'm sorry, but yes Knockdown DOES kill a rifleman in one shot, How?

He uses knockdown, then with his awesome 1.4 pistol shoots the hell out of us, then knocks us down again (before we are able to stand) and continues the same steps. that is a ONE shot kill.

"get avery fast weapon to counter it, one that is capped 1.0 style speed. (you will need tohave atleast 2-3 lines in rifle special abilities)"

So now your tellin us, that I, a Rifleman, have to take up another profession, just so I can beat a Pistoleer, BH, Smuggler?

What kind of BS is that? I dont see them, taking up Rifleman profession to beat us, do you?

typo, I did'nt mean another profession, but we should'nt have to use a faster weapon.

If a TekDragon leaves Chicago on a train with a sniper rifle at 2:37 pm heading West at 85 mph and a AldeonAvardulin leaves San Fransisco at 3:14 pm on a bus heading North East at 65 mph at what point and time will there paths cross? Come one guys put your genitals away and work together.

Taco I am glad you take whatever Tek says for gospel, but pistol does NOT get a knockdown tell Master. So the needing to counter pistoleers early knockdown shot is a mute point.

As for how I can come to the conclussion I did it is very simple. Every thime he cries it is based off a 1vs1 encounter. He wants knockdown removed AND for Sony to give him a one hit kill ability. Doesnt take a rocket scientist to guess his motives.

I know this might be a shocker to some of you kiddies but duels in RPG's consisting of 2 diffrent classes will never ever ever ever be balanced. SWG is suppose to be faction vs faction, if you want to duel then go make a character that duels well, otherwise **edit** tell you have something constructive to say.