Rifleman Archive
Thread: Rifleman/Sniper right? Wrong.
"The real irony is that Sony puts in all these titles so that we can be individual, I can be a Soldier, you a Sniper, someone else a Gunner while all being in the same profession..." -Frailboy
If the title were something besides Sniper would it make you any less unique?
The real irony is that you can be a soldier, I can be a gunner, and noone can be a sniper.
I contend that the ability to be a sniper is nonexistant in this game, regardless of wether this is a good or bad thing. It is simple a fact. To say that sniper is a subset of Rifleman is to acknowledge that a Rifleman is a sniper, which it is not. If the Riflemanis asniper as a subset, please explain how they fufill this role significantly better than any other class in PVE and PVP.
From looking at the official documentation, it is reasonable to come to the conclusion that the Rifleman profession is focused on being snipers with a few tricks thrown in for utility. If the Rifleman cannot live up to this thenone of 2 things needs to happen.
1. Augment the Rifleman class until they could be reasonably called snipers.
2. Stop encouraging people to believe they will be snipers.
I vote for option 2.
I believe option 1 would be detrimental to overall game balance whereas option 2 would be easier and have no effect on game balance.
SuddnDeath wrote:
um frailboy are you a TOTALLLL DUMB***!! my fing god what a DUMB***!!!
1. ever look at the damn min dmg on a laser rifle IT SUCKS!!(migration eats it)
2.comp amor is more than 30% energy resist OMG!!(try 85% norm)
3.you are a totall DUMB***!! final
my 2 cents
Look at the date of that post. It's from a year ago.
1. There was no damage mitigation at that date
2. People didn't wear composite because there were no buffs and encumberance had a profound impact
Ya'll should chill. I got a funny comic relief for you. You all in military service might know the rifle melee tactics. There are four steps if you remember. I think third one in the sequence for the four is called ...
"Vertical Butt Stroke"
I was never in mil service, but I saw it on History Channel. Every time I hear about this crack me up.
My few cents, but snipers generally are quite vulnerable. I played USArmy's online game few months back. As soon as I got myself certified, I signed up for sniping. I got lots of kills, but as soon as getting spoted I was dead. So I think most RL snipers never repeat shots from the same position. Thats also a part of reason they operate in pairs I think. Isn't that correct? I mean one of them help range the target and check for hostiles, right?
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P.S. You all should try America's Army. I had a real blast. You'll have to go through (easy compared to the real thing, I am sure) training and get certified with some weapons. Rifle certification is really tough; took me hours to get expert marksman badges which qualified me to sniper training. Just one thing, the guys can kill you in one bullet like RL and you rarely survive more than three.
Digitalphobia wrote:
My few cents, but snipers generally are quite vulnerable. I played USArmy's online game few months back. As soon as I got myself certified, I signed up for sniping. I got lots of kills, but as soon as getting spoted I was dead. So I think most RL snipers never repeat shots from the same position. Thats also a part of reason they operate in pairs I think. Isn't that correct? I mean one of them help range the target and check for hostiles, right?
It depends on what kind of 'sniper'. Hunters and Law Enforcement snipers frequently will make multiple shots from the same location. Hunters don't usually have to worry about deer shooting back
while LE snipers are usually dealing with lightly armed criminals that have no training.
You are correct on military snipers usually. Though of course there are exceptions.
The role of the spotter depends on the military. Often the spotter is also a trained sniper and they trade of shooting. It helps to relieve stress to have someone else there and to have someone that can switch roles. The spotter also allows the shooter to keep the target in sight while the spotter looks for other targets and gets the range to target.
If you want more info on Snipers feel free to click the link in my sig.
PS - I'll have to try that game. Sounds good. One thing I liked about Flashpoint was the realistic damage. If you were hit you frequently went down. If not a just one or two more shots would finish you off.
..Flashpoint is still one of the best games ever, and if they didnt screw up on multiplayer latency...and advertised it a bit more, it wouldnt have become so....forgotten
KardenTyrell wrote:
Americas Army is real fun
I always liked the wide open spaces and wooded areas in that game. The ability to go just about anywhere and set up your own approach. Not like most FPS's that is narrow spaces and linear single approach progression.
BTW in case you didn't hear. Flashpoint 2 is suppose to be comming out by the end of the year. Last I heard anyways.