Rifleman Archive
Thread: Zarl0k, zip your howling screamer!
I don't want to add fuel to any fires, or make anyone angry, just wanted to throw in my 2 cents for the newbi riflemen on these issues, i've only played SWG just over 2 months, and this is my first PvP type mmporg. I am a bothan(maxxd mental stats, 1100/600/500, armor ruins me, so i dont wear it but use PSG), with rifleman skills 2/2/2/2. I use t21's and only t21's, its one of the reasons i worked to be a rifleman, its not the best weapon, but i get more consistent dmg and do well versus armored npc's. Recall as a child how you may have felt when you saw the stormtrooper in mos eisley with the orange recoil pads and the t21, wowo, i wanted to use tht. However LLC and flamethrowers dwarf our best wep, and mayhaps just an opinion but our skills cost a TON of xps. LLC and FT from my newb experience shoot every 4 seconds or so, and do around 400-800 dmg base, easily double tht of my t21, which suposedly, or more accurately is supposed to be one of the more powerful weapons in the game. When i am stationary or prone I am hit by these weapons nearly every time, once for 4k dmg even(12k normal), and at ranges ideal for me, 50-60 meters.
In all PvP situations i keep moving, it is the only chance I have, if i stop for even a second I go down almost immediately, especially in large scale engagements. I use high ham high accuracy t21's so i actually get some hits on the move, not efficient, but seems my only viable tactic.
In single pvp encounters versus BH, CH or commando, or most any class lol, i nearly always lose. In small engagements my only hope is to get a mind shot, and run back with TEF after cloning, then get a lucky headshot before i am killed again, abt 50/50 chance from my experience. Cheesy, yeh, but its part of the game, and seems to me the only way i can have any real impact.
In large scale engagements this is what i do, First off i am going to lose 200-300 faction, par for the course for a "support" class i guess. I run out there tabbing like mad and fire off mind shots until i am killed, then i run back and do it again, until there is an obvious victor or my faction has gone so negative i just have to stop. Again, cheesy, aye, but it is my perception and feeling that this is the only way i can impact a large scale PvP engagement. I also keep an eye out for mind wounded ppl and may throw a headshot, but almost never, never get any deathblows.
In pvp situations I only go overt one time, then all I use is TEF from then on, its faster, going overtjust takes too long( and sometimes a teras kasi master is parked at the recruiter lol), and as much as TEF is a worst enemy it is also my best friend. If I want into the battle fast, i just heal someone and start tab-shooting.
In SWG PVP i am trying to eliminate all enemy blue, no matter how many times i have to get owned or killed, or faction i must lose, i depend on other ppl to get the deathblows and to engage the enemy in a conventional manner. Also understand that serious pvp'ers in SWG have mastered their professions, maxxed their skills, and have the highest quality gear. I, of course, am not one of those ppl. It almost seems to me that SWG PvP is actually an endgame activity.
Now that you see how little pride a non master rifleman has, perhaps you can understand the woes of the profession as a whole. You may say im a gimp, well, I am a gimp, but the very fact that i know and accept my inferiority to most of the other professions is my best weapon.
I don't think anyone should be nerfed, I think the problem with SWG is that nothing is done about basic and ridiculous issues that everyone agrees are ridiculous. 75% of posts on this forum come from this quandary, there is so much "addressing the issue" or "discussion" nothing basic is accomplished on things pretty much we all agree on.
Examples : 1) Mob warping, everyone hates it, when it was a problem in EQ, they focused on it, and worked on it until it was solved, not talk about it or start threads for players opinions.
2) melee damage, the 2.5x dmg for holding a rifle even applies when using a tiny spraystick, even tho you get pistol run speed. Even melees think the 2.5x is ridiculous, everyone does. The commando/BH heavy wep melee dmg thing is the most absurd and extreme example, no discussion required, its just ridiculous.
3) everyone has bugged or useless special abilities, imagine how cool it would be if each week the devs focused on one special ability of one class, and everyone reported their experiences. We all have special shots or tricks that don't work right and we would all like to see them fixed. Surely some classes have more problematic abilities than others, they just need more fixing, no need for anyone to be nerfed.
etc etc, yaddi yadda
As a newb rifleman, i enjoy the proffesion, i dont intend to give up, its fun most of the time. I make good cred, good faction and decent xps on my own, dont use pets or droids 95% of the time. Rifleman requires sound tactics, patience and cunning, alltogether a challenging and rewarding class. But we all know things that are challenging and rewarding aren't always fun all of the time.
Anyway, heres my official plug for my profession in SWG. I am of the mind that if the devs added 100 max dmg to the t21, made armor piercing count versus un armored opponents, altered melee damage versus rifle wielders and focused on mob warping as a problem for most players threads like this would disapear in a manner of days. An important side note is that all professions have a quik fix package like this, not intended to nerf anyone or un nerf anyone per se, but intended primarily to reduce the number of unadressed negative posts on the official forum. It would also free up space for more star warsy discussions, like everyone having a rancor, poison and disease having no real place in the genre(lol=p).
In parting, what i have learned in my short time playing my new favorite mmporg, is that SWG is in a kind of ongoing beta limbo, which can be troublesome, but at the same time is very exciting.
Just a 2/2/2/2 newb riflemans opinions.----------muj
My Imagined Conversation withInquisitorPayne using his actual quotes:
Me: Commandos slaughter Riflemen in PvP. We need better weapons and commando damage in PvP needs to be toned down.
IP: "it is your fault if you:
get within 16m of a commando "
Me: Ok, so if I am fighting a commando I should just keep moving so that he never makes it into 16 m? But if I move as a rifleman wouldn't my aaccuracy suck? I couldn't hit a borad side of the barn if I am moving.
IP: "If you move as a rifleman, it is you that is stupid. A friend of mine, Apache-Agent, master rifleman by profession, had a +32 modifier on 0m. I know from the statements of all my Riflemen friends that they miss no a single shot while prone."
Me: Uhhh....so I should not move when I fight a commando right? I should be prone....but then wouldn't that commando get within 16 meters?
IP: "I know the problems of the rifleman, but basis is: stay away from a commando. idont care HOW you do it, but you may not complain if you get inside it's killing range."
Me: Well since I have not reached the Jedi master level yet and do not have the power of teleportation, I have to run if I want to stay outside of commando range. And if I do move then I am stupid. I got it! Any other useful advice?
Go away you *edit* troll.
I am sorry I have to disagree with you, really who knows how to make a nuclear weapon from an engine, and was she really that sexy.
You are so wrong you noob, I am uber right.
/end sarcasm
Okay, my computer hates me today as he now killed my reply thrice before posting, so this will be my shortes reply ever:
Corporate Dave:
We are not talking about BHs and their LLC (as it is called, ion weapons are only available for riflemen)
Speed sliced Flamer: 8 seconds (32% speed slice)
Damage sliced flamer: 11 seconds
Live with it, this is the truth.
Gargangargantua:
I wil post only the basics;
Screenshots are useless for this endeavour in my opinion. They will show nothing but a mess of overlapping numbers. If you can give me a real reason to post a screenshot, i will do so, but i doubt it.
For the rest of you calls:
I will not leave until you and your fellow members, your posse, will stop your claims to be Gods only source of knowledge. You want to be heavens claim for wisdom? You are the reincartion and embodyment of the library of alexandria? You are the otherworldy power that deems what is right and what is not? Talk about hypocrites, eh?
As i can see it now, you basic stance is:
"Me command, you Buana. Whatever you say Buana! May humble ciommando carry your luggage Buana?"
I will not leave until you accpet that a non-Rifleman can have right as well. And that you are NOT the sole source of knowledge for all clases. Call for nefs as long as you want to but call only for nerfs in your OWN profession. You don'twant to do that? Why? i though you wanted everything to be toned down an that a nerf is the answer to everything.....
Mujaa:
If you want to use the T21 because yiu like it, use it. But the claim, that Flamethroewers dwarf your damage outpust is ridiculous. I will not say it is a lie, as this would point that you did this misinformation on intention, but it is simply more than wrong. Even a DLT20a outdamages me. For the firing speed on Flamethrowers, see my reply to CorporateDad.
PCBean:
Don't waste your breath. They will not read what you wrote but simply what they wanted to read outof it. Soon you will be flamed and callled a troll as you most obviously tried to disturb their private tea party. And don't forget, they are your Buanas!
Now i will try to post the Log:
I will have to tell you that the first 13 shots are issing as is the satrting header.
I will add what is missing by hand:
Weapons used durig the Test:
DLT20a:
Damage sliced (bad slice about 19%)
Speed: 5.2, Damage: 143-301 (using a +32% max damage powerup), HAM 14,29,25
Range modifiers: -17@0m,+28@45m,-50@64m
Flamethrower:
Damage sliced (35% slice)
Speed: 4.8, Damage: 531-1.022, HAM 78,22,22,
Range Modifiers: +11@0m,-55@50m,+0@64m
Start of the test:
DLT20a standing, using Flushing Volley against an immobile armored Target at ideal Range:
first hit: 50 damage
second hit: 66 damage
third hit: 294 damage (no armor accounted for)
fourth hit: 79 damage
fith hit: 48 damage
sixth hit: 337 damage (no armor accounted for)
seventh hit: 76 damage
eighth hit: 95 damage
ninth hit: 69 damage
thenth hit: 54 damage
eleventh hit: 63 damage
twelveth hit 100 damage
thirteenth hit: 168 damage (no armor accounted for)
[Combat] 09:59:01 Chat logging ON
[Combat] 09:59:05 Chat logging ON
[Spatial] 09:59:07 You tell Apache-Agent, 'Series 2 row 1'.
[Combat] 09:59:07 You tell Apache-Agent, 'Series 2 row 1'.
[GroupChat] 09:59:07 You tell Apache-Agent, 'Series 2 row 1'.
[None] 09:59:07 You tell Apache-Agent, 'Series 2 row 1'.
[GuildChat] 09:59:07 You tell Apache-Agent, 'Series 2 row 1'.
[important things] 09:59:07 You tell Apache-Agent, 'Series 2 row 1'.
[] 09:59:07 You tell Apache-Agent, 'Series 2 row 1'.
[] 09:59:07 You tell Apache-Agent, 'Series 2 row 1'.
[Spatial] 09:59:10 You accept Apache-Agent Crimson's challenge.
[Combat] 09:59:10 You accept Apache-Agent Crimson's challenge.
[Combat] 09:59:12 Apache-Agent Crimson uses Flushing Volley on you for 207 points of damage!
[Combat] 09:59:12 Your Advanced Composite Armor Right Bracer c6/4 armor prevented 152 points of damage.
[Spatial] 09:59:12 You're stunned!
[Combat] 09:59:12 You're stunned!
[Combat] 09:59:13 That target is out of range.
[Combat] 09:59:13 Apache-Agent Crimson uses Flushing Volley on you for 247 points of damage!
[Combat] 09:59:13 Your Advanced Composite Armor Right Bracer c6/4 armor prevented 182 points of damage.
[Spatial] 09:59:13 You're stunned!
[Combat] 09:59:13 You're stunned!
[Combat] 09:59:14 Apache-Agent Crimson uses Flushing Volley on you for 225 points of damage!
[Spatial] 09:59:14 You're stunned!
[Combat] 09:59:14 You're stunned!
[Combat] 09:59:15 That target is out of range.
[Combat] 09:59:15 Apache-Agent Crimson uses Flushing Volley on you for 290 points of damage!
[Combat] 09:59:15 Your Advanced Composite Armor Right Bicep c6/4 armor prevented 206 points of damage.
[Spatial] 09:59:15 You're stunned!
[Combat] 09:59:15 You're stunned!
[Combat] 09:59:16 Apache-Agent Crimson uses Flushing Volley on you for 337 points of damage!
[Combat] 09:59:16 Your Advanced Composite Armor Pants c6/4 armor prevented 241 points of damage.
[Spatial] 09:59:16 You're stunned!
[Combat] 09:59:16 You're stunned!
[Combat] 09:59:17 That target is out of range.
[Combat] 09:59:17 Apache-Agent Crimson uses Flushing Volley on you for 190 points of damage!
[Spatial] 09:59:17 You're stunned!
[Combat] 09:59:17 You're stunned!
[Combat] 09:59:18 Apache-Agent Crimson uses Flushing Volley on you for 194 points of damage!
[Spatial] 09:59:18 You're stunned!
[Combat] 09:59:18 You're stunned!
[Combat] 09:59:19 That target is out of range.
[Combat] 09:59:19 Apache-Agent Crimson uses Flushing Volley on you for 280 points of damage!
[Combat] 09:59:19 Your Advanced Composite Armor Left Bracer c6/4 armor prevented 208 points of damage.
[Spatial] 09:59:19 You're stunned!
[Combat] 09:59:19 You're stunned!
[Spatial] 09:59:20 You have been incapacitated by Apache-Agent Crimson.
[Combat] 09:59:20 You have been incapacitated by Apache-Agent Crimson.
[Combat] 09:59:20 Apache-Agent Crimson uses Flushing Volley on you for 263 points of damage!
[Combat] 10:02:46 Chat logging ON
[Combat] 10:03:06 DLT20a at ideal range against a moving aromred target
[Spatial] 10:03:11 You accept Apache-Agent Crimson's challenge.
[Combat] 10:03:11 You accept Apache-Agent Crimson's challenge.
[Combat] 10:03:14 Apache-Agent Crimson uses Flushing Volley on you for 212 points of damage!
[Combat] 10:03:14 Your Advanced Composite Armor Pants c6/4 armor prevented 152 points of damage.
[Spatial] 10:03:14 You're stunned!
[Combat] 10:03:14 You're stunned!
[Combat] 10:03:14 That target is out of range.
[Combat] 10:03:15 Apache-Agent Crimson uses Flushing Volley on you for 306 points of damage!
[Combat] 10:03:15 Your Advanced Composite Armor Pants c6/4 armor prevented 220 points of damage.
[Spatial] 10:03:15 You're stunned!
[Combat] 10:03:15 You're stunned!
[Combat] 10:03:16 Apache-Agent Crimson's Flushing Volley misses you.
[Combat] 10:03:16 That target is out of range.
[Combat] 10:03:17 Apache-Agent Crimson's Flushing Volley misses you.
[Combat] 10:03:18 Apache-Agent Crimson's Flushing Volley misses you.
[Combat] 10:03:18 That target is out of range.
[Combat] 10:03:19 Apache-Agent Crimson uses Flushing Volley on you for 308 points of damage!
[Combat] 10:03:19 Your Advanced Composite Armor Boots c6/4 armor prevented 220 points of damage.
[Spatial] 10:03:19 You're stunned!
[Combat] 10:03:19 You're stunned!
[Combat] 10:03:20 Apache-Agent Crimson uses Flushing Volley on you for 282 points of damage!
[Combat] 10:03:20 Your Advanced Composite Armor Left Bracer c6/4 armor prevented 209 points of damage.
[Spatial] 10:03:20 You're stunned!
[Combat] 10:03:20 You're stunned!
[Combat] 10:03:20 That target is out of range.
[Combat] 10:03:21 Apache-Agent Crimson's Flushing Volley misses you.
[Combat] 10:03:22 Apache-Agent Crimson uses Flushing Volley on you for 242 points of damage!
[Spatial] 10:03:22 You're stunned!
[Combat] 10:03:22 You're stunned!
[Combat] 10:03:22 That target is out of range.
[Combat] 10:03:23 Apache-Agent Crimson uses Flushing Volley on you for 267 points of damage!
[Spatial] 10:03:23 You're stunned!
[Combat] 10:03:23 You're stunned!
[Combat] 10:03:24 Apache-Agent Crimson uses Flushing Volley on you for 218 points of damage!
[Combat] 10:03:24 Your Advanced Composite Armor Gloves armor prevented 156 points of damage.
[Spatial] 10:03:24 You're stunned!
[Combat] 10:03:24 You're stunned!
[Combat] 10:03:24 That target is out of range.
[Combat] 10:03:25 Apache-Agent Crimson uses Flushing Volley on you for 309 points of damage!
[Combat] 10:03:25 Your Advanced Composite Armor Chest Plate c6/4 armor prevented 222 points of damage.
[Spatial] 10:03:25 You're stunned!
[Combat] 10:03:25 You're stunned!
[Combat] 10:03:26 Apache-Agent Crimson uses Flushing Volley on you for 303 points of damage!
[Spatial] 10:03:26 You're stunned!
[Combat] 10:03:26 You're stunned!
[Combat] 10:03:26 That target is out of range.
[Combat] 10:03:27 Apache-Agent Crimson uses Flushing Volley on you for 306 points of damage!
[Combat] 10:03:27 Your Advanced Composite Armor Chest Plate c6/4 armor prevented 220 points of damage.
[Spatial] 10:03:27 You're stunned!
[Combat] 10:03:27 You're stunned!
[Combat] 10:03:28 Apache-Agent Crimson uses Flushing Volley on you for 286 points of damage!
[Combat] 10:03:28 Your Advanced Composite Armor Boots c6/4 armor prevented 203 points of damage.
[Spatial] 10:03:28 You're stunned!
[Combat] 10:03:28 You're stunned!
[Combat] 10:03:28 That target is out of range.
[Spatial] 10:03:29 You have been incapacitated by Apache-Agent Crimson.
[Combat] 10:03:29 You have been incapacitated by Apache-Agent Crimson.
[Combat] 10:03:29 Apache-Agent Crimson uses Flushing Volley on you for 333 points of damage!
[Combat] 10:07:18 Chat logging ON
[Combat] 10:07:18 Current chat log file size: 6 KB
[Combat] 10:07:38 DLT20a against a moving target at ideal range (target armored) sseries 2
[Spatial] 10:07:41 Apache-Agent Crimson is too far away to 'Start Trading'.
[Combat] 10:07:41 Apache-Agent Crimson is too far away to 'Start Trading'.
[Spatial] 10:07:44 You accept Apache-Agent Crimson's challenge.
[Combat] 10:07:44 You accept Apache-Agent Crimson's challenge.
[Combat] 10:07:53 Apache-Agent Crimson uses Flushing Volley on you for 209 points of damage!
[Combat] 10:07:53 Your Advanced Composite Armor Boots c6/4 armor prevented 149 points of damage.
[Spatial] 10:07:54 You're stunned!
[Combat] 10:07:54 You're stunned!
[Combat] 10:07:54 That target is out of range.
[Spatial] 10:07:55 You're stunned!
[Combat] 10:07:55 You're stunned!
[Combat] 10:07:55 Apache-Agent Crimson uses Flushing Volley on you for 301 points of damage!
[Combat] 10:07:55 Your Advanced Composite Armor Left Bracer c6/4 armor prevented 222 points of damage.
[Combat] 10:07:55 Apache-Agent Crimson uses Flushing Volley on you for 256 points of damage!
[Combat] 10:07:55 Your Advanced Composite Armor Left Bicep c6/4 armor prevented 184 points of damage.
[Spatial] 10:07:55 You're stunned!
[Combat] 10:07:55 You're stunned!
[Combat] 10:07:56 That target is out of range.
[Combat] 10:07:56 Apache-Agent Crimson's Flushing Volley misses you.
[Combat] 10:07:57 Apache-Agent Crimson uses Flushing Volley on you for 317 points of damage!
[Combat] 10:07:57 Your Advanced Composite Armor Pants c6/4 armor prevented 228 points of damage.
[Spatial] 10:07:58 You're stunned!
[Combat] 10:07:58 You're stunned!
[Combat] 10:07:58 That target is out of range.
[Combat] 10:07:58 Apache-Agent Crimson uses Flushing Volley on you for 262 points of damage!
[Combat] 10:07:58 Your Advanced Composite Armor Chest Plate c6/4 armor prevented 189 points of damage.
[Spatial] 10:07:59 You're stunned!
[Combat] 10:07:59 You're stunned!
[Combat] 10:07:59 Apache-Agent Crimson uses Flushing Volley on you for 181 points of damage!
[Combat] 10:07:59 Your Advanced Composite Armor Boots c6/4 armor prevented 129 points of damage.
[Combat] 10:08:00 That target is out of range.
[Combat] 10:08:00 Apache-Agent Crimson uses Flushing Volley on you for 253 points of damage!
[Combat] 10:08:00 Your Advanced Composite Armor Chest Plate c6/4 armor prevented 182 points of damage.
[Spatial] 10:08:00 You're stunned!
[Combat] 10:08:00 You're stunned!
[Combat] 10:08:01 Apache-Agent Crimson's Flushing Volley misses you.
[Combat] 10:08:02 That target is out of range.
[Combat] 10:08:02 Apache-Agent Crimson uses Flushing Volley on you for 350 points of damage!
[Combat] 10:08:02 Your Advanced Composite Armor Boots c6/4 armor prevented 250 points of damage.
[Spatial] 10:08:02 You're stunned!
[Combat] 10:08:02 You're stunned!
[Combat] 10:08:03 Apache-Agent Crimson's Flushing Volley misses you.
[Combat] 10:08:04 That target is out of range.
[Combat] 10:08:04 Apache-Agent Crimson uses Flushing Volley on you for 334 points of damage!
[Combat] 10:08:04 Your Advanced Composite Armor Pants c6/4 armor prevented 239 points of damage.
[Spatial] 10:08:05 You're stunned!
[Combat] 10:08:05 You're stunned!
[Combat] 10:08:05 Apache-Agent Crimson's Flushing Volley misses you.
[Combat] 10:08:06 That target is out of range.
[Combat] 10:08:06 Apache-Agent Crimson uses Flushing Volley on you for 272 points of damage!
[Combat] 10:08:06 Your Advanced Composite Armor Right Bracer c6/4 armor prevented 201 points of damage.
[Spatial] 10:08:06 You're stunned!
[Combat] 10:08:06 You're stunned!
[Combat] 10:08:07 Apache-Agent Crimson uses Flushing Volley on you for 350 points of damage!
[Spatial] 10:08:07 You're stunned!
[Combat] 10:08:07 You're stunned!
[Combat] 10:08:08 That target is out of range.
[Combat] 10:08:08 Apache-Agent Crimson uses Flushing Volley on you for 310 points of damage!
[Combat] 10:08:08 Your Advanced Composite Armor Boots c6/4 armor prevented 221 points of damage.
[Spatial] 10:08:09 You're stunned!
[Combat] 10:08:09 You're stunned!
[Combat] 10:08:09 Apache-Agent Crimson uses Flushing Volley on you for 194 points of damage!
[Combat] 10:08:09 Your Advanced Composite Armor Left Bicep c6/4 armor prevented 138 points of damage.
[Combat] 10:08:10 That target is out of range.
[Combat] 10:08:10 Apache-Agent Crimson uses Flushing Volley on you for 325 points of damage!
[Spatial] 10:08:11 You're stunned!
[Combat] 10:08:11 You're stunned!
[Combat] 10:08:11 Apache-Agent Crimson uses Flushing Volley on you for 261 points of damage!
[Combat] 10:08:11 Your Advanced Composite Armor Boots c6/4 armor prevented 187 points of damage.
[Spatial] 10:08:12 You're stunned!
[Combat] 10:08:12 You're stunned!
[Combat] 10:08:12 That target is out of range.
[Combat] 10:08:12 Apache-Agent Crimson uses Flushing Volley on you for 343 points of damage!
[Combat] 10:08:12 Your Advanced Composite Armor Pants c6/4 armor prevented 246 points of damage.
[Spatial] 10:08:13 You're stunned!
[Combat] 10:08:13 You're stunned!
[Combat] 10:08:13 Apache-Agent Crimson uses Flushing Volley on you for 276 points of damage!
[Combat] 10:08:13 Your Advanced Composite Armor Gloves armor prevented 197 points of damage.
[Spatial] 10:08:14 You're stunned!
[Combat] 10:08:14 You're stunned!
[Combat] 10:08:14 That target is out of range.
[Spatial] 10:08:14 You have been incapacitated by Apache-Agent Crimson.
[Combat] 10:08:14 You have been incapacitated by Apache-Agent Crimson.
[Combat] 10:08:14 Apache-Agent Crimson uses Flushing Volley on you for 288 points of damage!
[Spatial] 10:08:15 You have died. Requesting clone activation...
[Combat] 10:08:15 You have died. Requesting clone activation...
[Combat] 10:13:56 Chat logging ON
[Combat] 10:13:56 Current chat log file size: 9 KB
[Combat] 10:14:23 DLT20a against a standing armored target at 15m, kneeling (flushin volley)
[Spatial] 10:14:27 You accept Apache-Agent Crimson's challenge.
[Combat] 10:14:27 You accept Apache-Agent Crimson's challenge.
[Combat] 10:14:36 Apache-Agent Crimson uses Flushing Volley on you for 351 points of damage!
[Combat] 10:14:36 Your Advanced Composite Armor Boots c6/4 armor prevented 251 points of damage.
[Spatial] 10:14:36 You're stunned!
[Combat] 10:14:36 You're stunned!
[Combat] 10:14:36 That target is out of range.
[Combat] 10:14:37 Apache-Agent Crimson uses Flushing Volley on you for 259 points of damage!
[Combat] 10:14:37 Your Advanced Composite Armor Right Bicep c6/4 armor prevented 186 points of damage.
[Spatial] 10:14:37 You're stunned!
[Combat] 10:14:37 You're stunned!
[Combat] 10:14:37 Apache-Agent Crimson uses Flushing Volley on you for 222 points of damage!
[Spatial] 10:14:38 You're stunned!
[Combat] 10:14:38 You're stunned!
[Combat] 10:14:38 That target is out of range.
[Combat] 10:14:38 Apache-Agent Crimson uses Flushing Volley on you for 211 points of damage!
[Combat] 10:14:38 Your Advanced Composite Armor Boots c6/4 armor prevented 151 points of damage.
[Spatial] 10:14:39 You're stunned!
[Combat] 10:14:39 You're stunned!
[Combat] 10:14:40 Apache-Agent Crimson uses Flushing Volley on you for 322 points of damage!
[Combat] 10:14:40 Your Advanced Composite Armor Left Bracer c6/4 armor prevented 239 points of damage.
[Spatial] 10:14:40 You're stunned!
[Combat] 10:14:40 You're stunned!
[Combat] 10:14:40 That target is out of range.
[Combat] 10:14:41 Apache-Agent Crimson's Flushing Volley misses you.
[Combat] 10:14:42 Apache-Agent Crimson uses Flushing Volley on you for 186 points of damage, but you evade it.
[Combat] 10:14:42 That target is out of range.
[Combat] 10:14:43 Apache-Agent Crimson uses Flushing Volley on you for 310 points of damage!
[Spatial] 10:14:43 You're stunned!
[Combat] 10:14:43 You're stunned!
[Combat] 10:14:44 Apache-Agent Crimson uses Flushing Volley on you for 335 points of damage!
[Combat] 10:14:44 Your Advanced Composite Armor Right Bracer c6/4 armor prevented 247 points of damage.
[Spatial] 10:14:44 You're stunned!
[Combat] 10:14:44 You're stunned!
[Combat] 10:14:44 That target is out of range.
[Spatial] 10:14:44 You have been incapacitated by Apache-Agent Crimson.
[Combat] 10:14:44 You have been incapacitated by Apache-Agent Crimson.
[Combat] 10:14:44 Apache-Agent Crimson uses Flushing Volley on you for 167 points of damage!
[Combat] 10:14:44 Your Advanced Composite Armor Right Bracer c6/4 armor prevented 122 points of damage.
[Combat] 10:14:49 Apache-Agent Crimson stands up.
[Combat] 10:17:57 Chat logging ON
[Combat] 10:17:57 Current chat log file size: 12 KB
InquisitorPayne wrote:
YarKi:
Very fine edit job. Totaly out of context, but very fine nevertheless.
Before I was just having some fun with yout self-contradictions, now you are accusing me personally of taking things out of context.
Show me how a single one of those quotes is taken out of context, you lying pile of excrement?
Your posts are self-contradicting, full of outright lies andfabrications or completely irelevant factsand are made with the sole purpose to elicit an strong negative response. You are a perfect deffinion of a trol.
InquisitorPayne wrote:
YarKi:
Btw: in no way of the meaning of the word am i to be considered a troll. Read up what it means, before you use terms that you don't understand. My posts are both, constructive and with idea to help in mind. What have i done so far:
Even if true, has no relevance. Who the hell is going to stand at your ideal rangen and let you plink at them with that peashooter?
InquisitorPayne wrote:
DLT20a standing, using Flushing Volley against an immobile armored Target at ideal Range:
InquisitorPayne wrote:
DLT20a standing, using Flushing Volley against an immobile armored Target at ideal Range:
Completely irrelevant even if true. What kind of moron is going to stand at your ideal range and let you plink at them withthis peashooter.
[Combat] 10:03:06 DLT20a at ideal range against a moving aromred target
Is rifleman moving, prone, kneeling. Is target moving closer or just runs around at oprimal range? Given that you did not indicate a change of stance, I assume it is standing. Given how rare the misses are I assume that the target is moving mostly perpendicular without closing the distnace. Once again this does not remotely resemble any combat and is completely irrelevant even if logs are not doctored.
[Combat] 10:14:23 DLT20a against a standing armored target at 15m, kneeling (flushin volley)
Ok, once again any tests agains a standing target are completely useless. What do they prove? And I noticed that you did not have your flamethrower equipped because the log would have been a hell of a lot shorter if you did.
Read the Log for your own and evaluate it. I will post my evaluation later but now, you have the time to see it beforehand, to better judge my evaluation.
I was comenting on these item by item waiting to come acros an even remotely useful log. None of them are. All they show is that if you have an extremely accomodating target, that will not shoot back, you will eventually bring it down with any weapon. Your staged tests do not remotely resemble any realistic PvP or PvE situation and are completely pointless. Stop wasting bandwdth.