Rifleman Archive
Thread: Laser rifle useless!!!
no, a min damage coupler would hardly effect it. take the minimum damage, (highest would be 25) and add 33%. now your minimum damage is 33.25 whoopy. a whole 8 point increase. thats gonna turn heads.
Oh, and did you know? power ups drain your weapon's condition like mad. Would you really wanna take ur 25-440 sliced laser rifle that you paid out the *** for to the monopoly running weaponsmiths, and drain its condition down for 8 points extra? I sir, would be the first to laugh when you tried to repair it and it blew up in your face.
Once again, dlt20a aka old reliable wins this battle.
DilandauAlbatou wrote:
no, a min damage coupler would hardly effect it. take the minimum damage, (highest would be 25) and add 33%. now your minimum damage is 33.25 whoopy. a whole 8 point increase. thats gonna turn heads.
Oh, and did you know? power ups drain your weapon's condition like mad. Would you really wanna take ur 25-440 sliced laser rifle that you paid out the *** for to the monopoly running weaponsmiths, and drain its condition down for 8 points extra? I sir, would be the first to laugh when you tried to repair it and it blew up in your face.
Once again, dlt20a aka old reliable wins this battle.
Who crafted your laser rifle? I have a fully experimented tricked out rifle that does around 50 min damage (not at home so I can't recall exactly)... not sliced.... with a min powerup and I have yet to hit for anything less than 450 mind....
And yes I did know that, but so does using overcharge shot.... but my power up decays it at a slower rate than your overcharge does. And a non-sliced weapon can be repaired (as long as you don't hit that critical failure....**edit** that sucks). There are quite a few ways to stack the deck so you don't get that critical failure BTW....
ClosedHauled you really shot yourself in the foot with your posts. You're saying how you like reliable damage and then saying how if you hit for 100 with the laser, you won't get another shot. The bottomline is against a competent opponent wearing armor you're not going to kill them in 1 hit from an E11, period, so if you don't get off a second shot you're dead either way.
Oh, and BTW, Laser Rifle has AR2 penetration. E11 does NOT. Laser rifle cuts through AR1 armor (including composite) like butter (barely any reduction, if at all). E11's damage is halved. Learn about your weapons before making blanket statements.
I'm also discouraged by the Rifleman correspondant's view on this matter. 
DilandauAlbatou wrote:
DLT20a is better than a laser rifle, its very very reliable and hardly even dents your ham pools.
mine, 20% damage sliced is 134-214. 5.2 speed. (I know you can get em up to about 150-250, perhaps even a bit higher). This is un-modified with power ups. laser rifles, even the best are about 20-400, and about 6 speed. sliced. my average damage multiplier is 174, the laser rifles average damage multiplier is 200. with the speed takin into account, the damage ratio is pretty **edit** near the same.
so, given that their damage ratios are pretty much =, given the laser rifles is higher, but not by much, then it really just comes down to reliability. and the dlt is much MUCH more reliable. I took mine into theed today and dropped about 10 imperials within 5 minutes each in 1 shot before anyone spotted me.
Here's the problem. Add a 30% weapon mod to both thoseweapons you mentioned:
DLT20s Max damage increases to 278. Average Damage increases to only 206.
Laser Rifle's Max damage increase to 520. Average Damage increases to 265. Although I think the 400 max damage on an unsliced laser is a little optimistic. And, frankly, I think your DLT20 numbers are also very optimistic. If you can easily get such a better one, why haven't you? Having one that good on a server doesn't count...
Sliced you can easily get laser rifles in the 5 second range.
With the E11 you might have an argument, but saying a DLT20a is better than a Laser is just hillarious.
One would think since E11 is Rifle Specialist an laser rifle is only advanced that the E11 would be better. But then again with this game who the hell really knows??
Dont be hard on correspondent dude. They are gonna change them every month anyway. Its just a way for soe to have one person they can talk to instead of reading all the whines on the boards. Being picked a correspondent doesnt mean hes the end all be all of a classes knowledge. Plus hes still only human 
hotkeys your weapons, i did.
Nagorak,
1) I have a better chance of one shotting someone with an E11 then a laser rifle, in my experience. And If I DON'T one shot someone with an e11, my second shot (which will definitely kill the opponent) will come a lot sooner than a laser rifle. That's why I think the e11 is better in terms of survivalbility.
2) E11 and laser rifle both have AR2 penetration. Do your homework before talking out of your ass.
Arubial,
How do you figure the laser has better armor penetration than an E11. See #2 above.
well, apparently your e11 is better than mine if it does ar2 penetration.....i was unaware that they did that, my apologies. personally, i don't care what kind of weapon people use, it all depends on play-style.