Rifleman Archive

I wasa scout sniper in the Marines. What riflemen do in this game has nothing to do with "sniping". We are actually more like regular infantrymen. The word "sniping" should not even appear in the skills list. ...just my opinion...

Qildiin, you are looking at the skill titles, not their description. A quick look at the sneak would have let you know that all it does is that you can move while taking cover, which provides defensive bonuses. There is no "sneaking" towards the enemy and "taking cover" from the enemy eyesight. I see it as making yourself as small a target as possible and learning how to move around in that position. It is very easy to learn that what sniper shot does is a ranged deathblow, there is no "sniping" in the sense that you take a target down from range without them noticing your presence. What head shot 3 does is make the 15% chance of hitting the head a 100%, thus allowing you to concentrate your fire power in one ham. There is no sniping knowledge or precision in shooting the weakest part of the target's anatomy, it is just a way to override a game mechanic in your favor.

I have to agree with SilverLobo here. Read the skills (point the cursor on them and read the description text), think in terms of game mechanics and not in terms of text flavor. Try them and if you don't find a practical use to the skill then ask for a revision or change.

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Devrak wrote:

So for people that say why we shouldn't be called snipers please remember all the sniper tacticsyou haveused beforeyou reached master.

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Umm I used the "double bleed on multiple GBN while running away like a little girly shooting at their mind"tactic for at least 75% of my rifleman tree exp.

This doesn't sound very "sniper" like to me.

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Seflyn wrote:

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Devrak wrote:

So for people that say why we shouldn't be called snipers please remember all the sniper tacticsyou haveused beforeyou reached master.

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Umm I used the "double bleed on multiple GBN while running away like a little girly shooting at their mind"tactic for at least 75% of my rifleman tree exp.

This doesn't sound very "sniper" like to me.

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LOL. Sounds like my "bleed shot, run, warning shot, warning shot, run back, warning shot" uber tactics.

But yeah, Novice Riflemen have it soooo much tougher than we had it. Except for us having to walk 5 miles in the snow, uphill both ways part.

Some interesting information:

The actual weapon the T-21 model is based on is a WWI era British Lewis gun. The Lewis was the first practical automatic rifle/light machinegun.

The second most used obvious rifle in the movies (and one that is not in the game) was based on the real world German MG-34. Arguably one of the best light machinegun designs ever made.

All of this of course means absolutely nothing,I just find it interesting.

There is no single answer to what the class is. The skills are about evenly split. While strafe2 has the best damage mod (and a high HAM cost), surprise shot is not far behind. Asking for a more powerful headshoot is never going to happen. We have a very powerful single target attack (random HAM) we have several powerful head attacks, we have the best AOE in the game. That is all a plus. (not going to address the minuses, that horse is beat to a pulp)

At master you can average a strafe2 every 2 seconds, or a normal shot every second. The fact is it is very hard to actually snipe at this speed. (personally i only see about 1 in 3 shots actually get a graphic)

The grind from novice IS very hard and has always been so. It was not easier before anything changed. The tactics were different, but the problems were still there. The best advice i can give is not to make the job harder by tring to force the class to be something it is not, and may never be. Look at what is available and make use of it.

Flushing2 is more useful in leveling than Headshot3. Riflemen are very group friendly characters UNLESS you insist on only using headshots. (this hurts you getting exp and makes the group less friendly) The best group shots are the AOE shots, suprise shot, and Flurry. Yes they all hit random HAM, but they do more damage, and they complement the others in the group more.

My opinion is that we are exactly what the class is named, we are riflemen, we are soldiers, we are gunners, and yes we can even try to be a sniper. (not going to touch Hunter)

Personally, I hate Master Sharpshooter. (sounds like a circus actor)

A quick point, surprise shot is on a x3 multiplier with strafe2 on a x5.

To be honest i think we have the best profession that is most adaptable to any situation but that is is you hunt animals or npcs, i dont really get into pvp that much, will once ive mastered rifle though.

As a Rifleman (4/3/4/3) and Master Ranger rifleman works extremelly well for me.

If i have single targets ill use mind damage shots, if i have multiple targets i will use AOE shots.

I honestly believe we are the most adaptable profession.

Having said that though i dont know what the other professions are like, but i think rifleman have alot of thins going for it, and with this i have to agree with what past masters say, getting to Master Rifleman is a huge grind, but as you get closer to master you can start to fell some of the power.

And for the clowns that bithc and moan about ham costs, 2 words "chef food"

get some of that stuff, personally i think its better the muon gold, no downtime, and it works bascially the same. Get Breath of HEaven (drink) and it boosts your focus, eat rynacash or soemthing like that and it boost your will power, all the while when it runs our you can generally just eat more. no downtime like muon gold!

40k away from Master Rifleman!!

Even better are musician mind buffs. Nothing like running for 2 hrs spamming shots with 1600 focus and 1200 mind.

so if were not looking at skill title ... the Devs could add a Bunch of Swordplay moves to our professions ... since obviously titles don't mean anything.

buhahahahah....i tried this a couple time after they nerfed suppression and you can't set up your shots with mind bleed stacks then headshots. It was the most worthless tactic i have ever used as a as a novice, getting incap half the time due to the warping and so forth.

here's the advice i have for u novice riflemen grinding out there...if its a non agro mobs (though are there any left after the patch?),you basically go prone and conceal shot them to death. For creatures that grouped, used your pistol (*sigh*) or spraystick to do warning shots to seperate the pack, then conceal shot each to death when they are at a distant from each other. This method works pretty well until you get flushing 2....

Urikl D'evrak

Master Rifleman

Response to...

Seflyn wrote:

Umm I used the "double bleed on multiple GBN while running away like a little girly shooting at their mind"tactic for at least 75% of my rifleman tree exp.

This doesn't sound very "sniper" like to me.

I'm not going to get into the sniper/machine gunner debate but the fact is...for you master riflemen out there...do not forget where you came from...remember that when you were novices (and after they nerfed suppression) you we're pretty much gimps...so you had to use tactics and lotsa conceal shots to survive...hence people generally think riflemen as snipers.

Now once you have reached master that is a differentstory all together...you are basically shooting at a faster rate...ie i usually will be able to get 2-3 AoE shotswith the T21and then auto fire the rest of the way to finish them off...hence the heavy gunner comparison...

So for people that say why we shouldn't be called snipers please remember all the sniper tacticsyou haveused beforeyou reached master.

Urikl D'evrak

Master Rifleman

Gorath Server

Vopn, the best light machine gun ever made is the MG42. It is smarter engineered and even cheaper. German squad tactics were almost completely focused on it.