Rifleman Archive

Hey Gatton ! what's up ?

I'll need to head up In Bestine sometimes *grins*

Anyway, agree with you, riflemens arent snipers (not saying if its nice or not, its just the way it is now ), the only time we are snipers is against non BAF mobs in PVE, so yes, we are machinegunners and we do well at it, so just enjoy what is given to you and have fun.

Zhug

Master rifleman on Kauri

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jnat wrote:

so yes, we are machinegunners and we do well at it, so just enjoy what is given to you and have fun.

Zhug

Master rifleman on Kauri

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As soon as I hit Master Rifleman, it was like someone took the hunting rifle out of my hands and replaced it with aM16 assaultrifle, and I've been loving it ever since.

We'reheavy gunners, that's our primary role, those are the skills we excell at due to our devastating AoE attacks, which are farmore lethal thenanything the Carbineers can do.

Now, if you're grinding your teeth while you play this class because it fails to live up to your wet-dreams of being a sniper.....well, wish I could say I felt some sympathy for you. I've a feeling your disappointment will continue fora good long while....

i agree 1000%, we are not snipers atm, but the term rifleman doesnt nessasarily mean "sniper". any combat soldier in the United States Marine Corps is a rifleman. why??? because he is trained in the use of rifles, now that doesnt mean he couldent be a effective sniper if he had to because he can and a very deadly one at that.

The T21 repeating rifle is just that, much like the Browning Automatic Rifle of WWII. the Browning (or BAR) was a big rifle that fired a 7.62mm round in either semi automatic or fully automatic modes. even though it can fire like a machine gun it is still a rifle that could shoot about 500 yards.

at preasant the rifleman profession is a little off point... we arnt snipers nor are we really riflemen if i may here are a few points.

1. what sniper/rifleman do you know that can only shoot at a target 65m away?

2. Radar - personally carried radar that renders any sneak attack useless

3. auto counter fire - as soon as you fire at a target they automaticly fire back, easily giving away the snipers position

4. rifle's point of origin - you can easily see a blaster bolt's bright red shot flying through the air, easily giving away the sniper's position (real bullets you cant see)

5. 2.5 melee penelty - this just plain sucks, if anything pistols should have this penelty as there weapon is small and not able to block if needed in melee combat.

thease are some ideas that makes a rifleman in SWG not a sniper at all, snipers are masters of camoflage,stealth and most importantly shooting a rifle. some would say 1 out of 3 isnt bad... i dont

What I have yet to see is someone mention the fact that we lack a high level, big damage single target special. Maybe Head Shot 4 in the Master box that does about 5x damage. I mean hell...if we can do 5x damage to multiple targets, why not 5x to mind vs one solitary target?

This is the reason people see Riflemen as machine gunners - all the highly effective, big damage specials we have are Area Effect. And that's the only reason. Oh, and the lack of concealment and stuff. And the lack of a range, but if we had a big damage, mind targeting special, more of you would act like "snipers".

I see that half of the class is sniperish themed, and the other half is machine-gunner themed. Why then, is the difinitive special we get as riflemen only reflect HALF of the rest of our profession? What is the problem with having 2 shots in the Master Box?

Now, I've heard that some people suspect surprise shot of being 4x now, but I think it's still random HAM.

I'm not saying AE is bad, and I'm not disputing what the rifleman class *is* but sometimes I want to play with a bit more finesse. Why should I have to shoot an AE attack at a single target, just because it does more damage? It's silly.

Denzien, Bria server


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Funny how people turn a question about if Rifleman is a sniper or not and turn it into a bitch session on why it should be. I am one that is very happy indeed that we are not a sniper. Unlike some people I picked this profession for its Area Effect abilities not for its titles.

Why cant we be both. Read my post on a sniper rifle. We should be able to do both. We should be able to cater to both sides of the argument. I mean I like to be a sniper but I also like to be part of battles and raids. You cant snipe in most major battles and are forced in some instances to use something smaller like an E11 or a spraystick.

Personally though I like to sneak up and ambush people more than machine gunning them down. Of course machine gunning people is fun too. What my opinion is, is that the class should be given two options. You can choose the sniper side or the machine gunner type side. Becoming master lets you do both. Unfortunatly for us sniper types we dont have much in the way of firepower for our one shot one kill ethos like we did before the T21 nerf.

I do seem to think that riflemen are more like machine gunners than lets say.... sharpshooters like our title makes us out to be though.

one question for the ppl that like gunners, if are not a sniper class why the concealment line?

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We are the players not the designers of this game. I dont know about you, but in any MMRPG I have played I have looked at the skills of the class then decided if I wanted to play it or not. I didnt care what the title of the class was, it was all about its abilities. What you people want is SOE to change the profession to meet some kind of pre concieved notion that because the profession has "Sniper" or "Concealment" in its discreption that it must be a sniper. You fail to look at abilities of the profession and only look at titles.

when i looked at the abiltlies before chooseing rilfeman i saw, under "concealment" sneak i though well thatmusthide me from the bad guys, i saw head shot 3 and hey would you believe it "sniper shot"under "sniper" well hey snipers shoot for the head don't they?, i saw the AoE's and said to myself iguess they would really help my team in a pvp battles, what i didn't relase that headshot3 was a pice of ... **edit** and that the AoE are what i was going to have to play with

SliverLobo when you started playing and did you know about the damage modifers of the different specials? and if you didn't which would you expect to be the most effective, HeadShot3 Or StrafeShot2?

don't get me wronge dude i mean hey i made the mistake, if i had understood what kind of damage the specials would dish out then i would have changed the way i went about rifleman