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Thread: The unbelievable cost of shooting

Eaca
Sat Feb 28, 2004 10:27 pm
#27

Once you get master rifleman go to dantooine join a big group there, ditch the group and run 28+K Mokk missions solo. Or find a city with improved job market and they hit 30k. Get a 20k set of full buffs including dancer and musician and make half a mil or more before they run out. That should fund your PvP bill for a while.




Oh wait, Harpoon isn't a master yet, never mind, go back to your grind.


HARP00N
Sat Feb 28, 2004 10:29 pm
#28

and what type of composite would i need for that?
HARP00N
Sat Feb 28, 2004 11:08 pm
#29

and you this is while you are shooting the lair while mobs spawn in groups of 5 every three seconds and aggro you?




and dont missions lose some of their appeal when they lose their xp value?
PsychoticChipmunk
Sat Feb 28, 2004 11:09 pm
#30

I solo piket missions without any buffs (not even doctor) and just take a muon during the mission when it is strategically best. My clothing is 0 condition (I don't insure since I have nothing to loose but they clothes off my back and a 3k crafting tool) rugged jacket, suit shirt, emerald necklace, thin striped pants, dress shoes, and a mabari armorweave helmet for the image. I forget the stats on my T-21 offhand but it isn't anywhere near the best nor is it a pre-nerf weapon. I can make quite the mountain of credits before I quit. Not due to a loss of spice but a loss of interest and head back to civilization to do other things. I don't now nor have I ever owned a suit of composite helmets due to the encumberance costs. I plan on buying a full suit, stun layered, somewhat soon though thanks to the decay being removed from PvP.


I can solo a mission hardly ever slowing down or using just normal shots to kill, (again thanks to the spice) but then I'm a master and that is what masters do. Kill effectively. After you grind your way to the plateau of power master grants you can PvP with skill and can garner credits with ease. You have not reached that level yet so do not complain about those of us who have. Itjust demeans yourself and it demeans the profession.




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Eaca
Sat Feb 28, 2004 11:19 pm
#31






HARP00N wrote:
and you this is while you are shooting the lair while mobs spawn in groups of 5 every three seconds and aggro you?


No, I do Mokk missions, NPC's. You go prone at 64m and kill them using concealed shot and never get agro once, then strafe 2 the base and bam 30k



and dont missions lose some of their appeal when they lose their xp value?




No, cause then you can get out of the group, and instead of making 3k for 15 minutes of work with a bunch of idiots you make 30k for 5 minutes of work by yourself

Eaca
Sat Feb 28, 2004 11:23 pm
#32






PsychoticChipmunk wrote:

I solo piket missions without any buffs (not even doctor) and just take a muon during the mission when it is strategically best. My clothing is 0 condition (I don't insure since I have nothing to loose but they clothes off my back and a 3k crafting tool) rugged jacket, suit shirt, emerald necklace, thin striped pants, dress shoes, and a mabari armorweave helmet for the image. I forget the stats on my T-21 offhand but it isn't anywhere near the best nor is it a pre-nerf weapon. I can make quite the mountain of credits before I quit. Not due to a loss of spice but a loss of interest and head back to civilization to do other things. I don't now nor have I ever owned a suit of composite helmets due to the encumberance costs. I plan on buying a full suit, stun layered, somewhat soon though thanks to the decay being removed from PvP.


I can solo a mission hardly ever slowing down or using just normal shots to kill, (again thanks to the spice) but then I'm a master and that is what masters do. Kill effectively. After you grind your way to the plateau of power master grants you can PvP with skill and can garner credits with ease. You have not reached that level yet so do not complain about those of us who have. Itjust demeans yourself and it demeans the profession.







I used to do this, hence the piket thing in my sig. After doing 30k missions tho... forget pikets. The 30k ones can take a bit longer but you still walk out with 2-3k more cash per hour. 100k with pikets 300k+ with mokks (tho I do have a few other advantages that push this up to 500k+... but 300k is still within the realm of possiblity)
HARP00N
Sat Feb 28, 2004 11:31 pm
#33







Eaca wrote:



No, I do Mokk missions, NPC's. You go prone at 64m and kill them using concealed shot and never get agro once, then strafe 2 the base and bam 30k






why do you need to conceal shot the Mokks? Arent you really bad - a$$ at master and you can kil all of them at once with a few strafe2s? I already have conceal shot, what do you need the master for?





Eaca
Sun Feb 29, 2004 12:00 am
#34






HARP00N wrote:






Eaca wrote:



No, I do Mokk missions, NPC's. You go prone at 64m and kill them using concealed shot and never get agro once, then strafe 2 the base and bam 30k






why do you need to conceal shot the Mokks? Arent you really bad - a$$ at master and you can kil all of them at once with a few strafe2s? I already have conceal shot, what do you need the master for?












Why yes, yes I can. In fact thats exactly what I do. However I can get away with this because of the several million credits I have spent on speed tapes to put in my cloths. For me to recommend this approach to someone else would be sending them to thier doom however. In order to try to get it through poor Harpoons skull how some of us came to our riches I try to share secrets that you can all use.


And yes, you can use consealed shot at just after novice. Why wait till master? Well when you finally one day in the future do make master (if you can stick with it long enough and make it in before the nerf) you will realize why I told you to wait.


In the meantime... stop your PvPing, go to dantooine, get in a good group, and make master as fast as you can.

Ethany
Sun Feb 29, 2004 2:25 am
#35

Stats migrated, 400/400/400/400/400/400/1100/1100/900 (if human, do something similiar for whatever race you are)


Doc buffs (required - I don't see how anyone cannot afford 6k-10k for a set of buffs that last 3+ hours)


Two brandy, at least 200 power, so +400 mind, +400 quickness, +400 stamina for 35min 30 seconds


Two vagnerian canape, at least 150 power, so +300 quickness, +300 stamina for 36min or so


If necessary, and it should not be, suck down some muon.


I play like this with 728 or so mind encumbrance from my current armor and I can spam any special I want all day long. Hell I can res people and hardly even dent my mind pool with my armor still on.







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RTTD
Sun Feb 29, 2004 4:04 am
#36

Ive just got 700 focus, two shots of BE brandy gives me 1500 focus, go unbuffed and do savage quenkers, easy xp
HARP00N
Sat Mar 06, 2004 6:41 pm
#37






Eaca wrote:





HARP00N wrote:






Eaca wrote:



No, I do Mokk missions, NPC's. You go prone at 64m and kill them using concealed shot and never get agro once, then strafe 2 the base and bam 30k






why do you need to conceal shot the Mokks? Arent you really bad - a$$ at master and you can kil all of them at once with a few strafe2s? I already have conceal shot, what do you need the master for?












Why yes, yes I can. In fact thats exactly what I do. However I can get away with this because of the several million credits I have spent on speed tapes to put in my cloths. For me to recommend this approach to someone else would be sending them to thier doom however. In order to try to get it through poor Harpoons skull how some of us came to our riches I try to share secrets that you can all use.


And yes, you can use consealed shot at just after novice. Why wait till master? Well when you finally one day in the future do make master (if you can stick with it long enough and make it in before the nerf) you will realize why I told you to wait.


In the meantime... stop your PvPing, go to dantooine, get in a good group, and make master as fast as you can.





ok i'm master now, please enlighten me


(wow the speed im shooting at is insane... 90% of my mission time is spent travelling)
Eaca
Sat Mar 06, 2004 7:06 pm
#38


Go to dantooine, find a player city with improved job market, either get in a group or settle for 10k piket missions, start pulling in 100-500k an hour. I recomend you start by saving up money for speed tapes, the more of those you have the faster and easier it is to make more money. After you have tapes and good guns, you can move on to Mokk missions (if you can either group with your AT-ST (you did say you have one of these earlier right?) or get someone who will let you join thier group just so you can get better missions). Buy some buffs, either doc and entertainer or spend the money on some BE brandy, and go rake in the cash.


Today I made 1.03mil off one set of buffs and about 8 shots of brandy (each stack has 18, and costs 14k for the stack). I always withdrawl all my cash before going out so I can keep track of what I'm making. I've made over 8mil in the last week just killing mokks (spent it all already too )


Also if you can afford it skill point wise take up master marksman till you can get the skill tapes to drop it. The +5 from there would help tons.

Message Edited by Eaca on 03-06-2004 08:11 PM

HARP00N
Sat Mar 06, 2004 9:15 pm
#39

ok thanks So do pickets, then mokks? And with the pickets, should I kill them all or kill first two then strafeshot2 the lair until it blows while ignoring the spawns? Or should i kill the first 4 to be safe, then go all out on the lair? And do you use powerups? (my gun's condition is going to crap at an amazing speed cuz im firing so fast.... powerups just compile it )


Also i have a question about skill tapes. I recently purchased a +2 knockdown defence skill tape and put it on an article of clothing. I checked in "My Skill Mods" and it says under Defence vs Knockdown: +0/+2... what does this mean? Also the article of clothing that i put the skill tape on had0 condition (grr, clone decay).. does it matter if clothing has 0 condition, will the skill tape still work? I imagine so, since some skill tapes are going for millions and if someone forgot to clone a few times they shouldn't lose it because their shirt has 0 decay (and u cant remove skill tapes either)... and of course i tried to repair the shirt with the KD defence skill tape, and I failed (naturally) so now the shirt is at -999/1 condition. I can still wear it and it still says +0/+2 under skill mods.


Also, rifleman skill tapes in the +5 or +7 range are going for 3 million on my server (Bria)
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