Rifleman Archive

Thread: I've Been Told this is Definitely not a Dabbler Profession

PsychoticChipmunk
Thu Feb 26, 2004 11:08 pm
#14






HARP00N wrote:

swordsman still has random pool attacks (two hand hit, etc...) so you can be hitting health as much as you can with strafeshot2.


anyways, i dont care what you think - you know im right. People chose tka/rifleman because they are uber. Depending on how long you have been here, you might have noticed something about me: I b1tch about imbalances in the game... a lot. I have been a plain rifleman since the game started, and have gone through the CHs, the BHs, and the Commandos alternatively dominating in PvP. But while I b1tch, other people like the ones i mentioned just hop to the next flavour of the month like a cheap wh0re, and then brag about how good they are. People chose the path of least resistance,kind of like you PhsychoticChipmunk, seeing as you're a rebel.


Just look how many rifleman/TKAs there are. Am I lying?


i hope TKA gets nerfed into a small fluffy pillow like they deserve, im sick of TKA's bullsh1t. but i fear that by the time i get master, riflemen will get nerfed by association, as they are beginning to be. I guess we'll be losing you when the next patch comes out and fixes the rifleman's stacked defences... i heard CMs pretty good, why dont you head that way?






Wow, slanderous and borderline idiotic. Nice touch getting them both. In case you haven't noticed I've been here since the first month of the game and have gone through just as much, if not more then you have. And what does my affiliation have to do with anything? God, you're method of complaining and ideas are just a remnant from our past that would be best left alone and buried.


Learn some tact, learn the game, and for goodness sakes at least learn something about the person you're insulting beforehand. I've been a rifleman since the beginning you twit, and I"m a rebel in order to get an A-wing in the space expansion, even htough my affilitation to PvP has no bearing what-so-ever to anything remotely relevant to this discussion.




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Nerutef
Fri Feb 27, 2004 9:30 am
#15






Grable22 wrote:

Yet I am still trying to dabble. I'm trying to get 4/0/0/0 just for the ranged aspect. I was just curious as to whether the damage done with only one tree would be substantial (I'm aware it would be slow, but I can live with that).







What Mathos? Didn't trust my answers on the TK boards?


Good luck to you though, would be good for getting critters attention and maybe putting some damage on them until they get to you.







Nerutef Sobekhotep [GoE]
* Master Rifleman *
* Teras Kasi Master *
~ CEO Nerutef's Micro Mining INC. ~

Brahn-Cholo
Fri Feb 27, 2004 10:51 am
#16

Yea Harpoon..... U are the biggest loser ever. If you wanna stay just rifleman... and not complement your skills with another... THat is your Fault. Why do you think the Devs allowed 2 professions?? Uh for one to complement the other. Or to allow more variety. In any case its the same thing. IF you wanna be foolish and not take adv of that .....Quite seriously it's your mistake.


Second. You dont just complain about unballance.... You complain about everything, period!!

I have not been in a message of yours that you are complaining about something....


Third.... You are not a master.......so u have no clue what you are talking about. and also....... nor do you know how to PVP based on previouse threads i have seen of yours. You wont buff....... you wont use foods.... spices or drink to help you out.... You basically use nothing the Devs have put into this game to help a person out. So why even play PvP... Just stick to the Robotic AI of the MoB's if you wanna have one thing that works all the time.


in other words......... GET a CLUE....


P.S. You ever think that if 100 people are telling 1 guy the same thing!! Maybe its not the 100 people that are wrong... but its the ONE GUY?>???
Brahn-Cholo
Fri Feb 27, 2004 10:54 am
#17

And to answer the posted question........ If you are going PvP forget dabble...... Master. Cuz untill master Rifle is basically weak....slow and you wont get enough damage in.


Vs Mob's it might help you a bit..... but a very small bit... being they will agro on you anyway....
Robogrowl
Fri Feb 27, 2004 11:04 am
#18






HARP00N wrote:
no you dont lol, you want to win. Otherwise you wouldn't get the super combo. People like you are always jumping around, getting the best combinations, etc.. i know thats just the way some people are, and its theoritically intended in the game mechanics... but it just irks me when people brag about how good they are, then they say they're rifle/TKA.







Guess what genius, i'm a master pikeman along with my master rifleman and i'll slaughter any pet people throw at me before it can even think about hitting me so cut that crap about the only reason he can do it is because hes rifle/tk



Oh, and just because YOU want to be strictly rifle doesn't mean everybody else that mixes stuff up is less worthy of offering an opinion...go away troll

Message Edited by Robogrowl on 02-27-2004 01:06 PM

Fred_Skinner
Fri Feb 27, 2004 12:41 pm
#19

I think I'll just step carefully across the landmines in the other posts and address the original post ...


imho I do not think much of the accuracy tree. Most important to get equity with other profsis speed so if you got the combat exp go all the way up that last one. I think tactics and carefuly looking at the stats of weapons you buy can overcome this, but that is just me. There are a few ways to go...


4/0/0/4 - Accuracy and speed and one AoE (dizzy).28 points

4/1/0/4 - adds the Conceal Shot for solo hunting 33 points

0/0/3/3 - 2 AoE and speed, but you might miss a bit, gets stun and dizzy. 24 points

0/1/3/3 - again, adds solo hunting. 29 points

my recommendation if you can swing the points

4/1/3/4 - Pretty much got it all but 42 points.... ouch. Might as well go master for 57 points (not counting marksman)


One thing: all of these are really pretty sub-par compared with comperable pistol and carbine templates. You really do not compete with them at all until you are MRM, hands down. Even 4/4/4/4 will liike like a newbie compared to it.



Frederick Skinner
Antarian Ranger, Ranger(0030), Master Rifleman, CH(4214)
Ranger is not a profession. It's a lifestyle.


Onichi
Fri Feb 27, 2004 4:22 pm
#20






Grable22 wrote:

Yet I am still trying to dabble. I'm trying to get 4/0/0/0 just for the ranged aspect. I was just curious as to whether the damage done with only one tree would be substantial (I'm aware it would be slow, but I can live with that).







Dude... I just wanted to apologise for pretty much Hijacking your thread .. I'll try to never do that again to anyone..


My most humbleapologies.


/salute




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Imperial Leiutenant

Official Rifleman's Motto: Of all the things i've lost, I miss my mind the most.
"If you can see it without a scope, it aint Sniping"
Grable22
Fri Feb 27, 2004 4:45 pm
#21






Nerutef wrote:





Grable22 wrote:

Yet I am still trying to dabble. I'm trying to get 4/0/0/0 just for the ranged aspect. I was just curious as to whether the damage done with only one tree would be substantial (I'm aware it would be slow, but I can live with that).







What Mathos? Didn't trust my answers on the TK boards?


Good luck to you though, would be good for getting critters attention and maybe putting some damage on them until they get to you.










No, I trust your judgement.I guess I just have a strong aversion to becoming a pistoleer or carbineer.



Mathos Tekura- TKM
CH
Smuggler

Chilastra- home of the unbearable, inexorable macroists.
Grable22
Fri Feb 27, 2004 4:46 pm
#22






Onichi wrote:





Grable22 wrote:

Yet I am still trying to dabble. I'm trying to get 4/0/0/0 just for the ranged aspect. I was just curious as to whether the damage done with only one tree would be substantial (I'm aware it would be slow, but I can live with that).







Dude... I just wanted to apologise for pretty much Hijacking your thread .. I'll try to never do that again to anyone..


My most humbleapologies.


/salute







Don't worry about it, I find this quite amusing.



Mathos Tekura- TKM
CH
Smuggler

Chilastra- home of the unbearable, inexorable macroists.
Grable22
Fri Feb 27, 2004 4:48 pm
#23

Sorry to get a bit off-topic but I really don't feel like posting this in another forum. Would dabbling in smuggler be a good idea? I hear much about feign death.



Mathos Tekura- TKM
CH
Smuggler

Chilastra- home of the unbearable, inexorable macroists.
Onichi
Fri Feb 27, 2004 4:59 pm
#24






Grable22 wrote:
Sorry to get a bit off-topic but I really don't feel like posting this in another forum. Would dabbling in smuggler be a good idea? I hear much about feign death.







Hmmmmm.. Feign Death huh? From what I understand it's only really useful if you can put a nice bleed on before you Feign Death.. and now with the changes to bleed you wont get looting rights to the corpse if someone else is attacking it.


I'd think Low Blow would be a more useful skill in Smuggler, ranged knockdown is what I'd use more than Feign death..I just like getting my hands dirty when fighting rather than playing dead




In the immortal words of the mighty Chewbacca "MUAAAAAAAARRRRRRrrrgh!"
Imperial Leiutenant

Official Rifleman's Motto: Of all the things i've lost, I miss my mind the most.
"If you can see it without a scope, it aint Sniping"
PsychoticChipmunk
Fri Feb 27, 2004 5:33 pm
#25

Well feign has saved my ass a few times so it does have pluses. However the mob auto aggroes when you stand back up so be aware of that if you do plan on grabbing it. It can be useful if you want to heal up but the guy on your tail won't die or leave you alone and before the bleed nerf it was a good way to get combat xp. The good thing about smuggler is you can go up the line to sell faction points (good business supposedly, I still have to grind it) and not get hassled by probe droids with the crackdown.



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HARP00N
Sat Feb 28, 2004 12:52 am
#26






Balute wrote:

Aloha Folks!


Thanks for coming to my defense on this, although with Hapoon we still won't get through his thick skull on this I think he's just pissed because I blasted him on his "I can't beat TKA thread" earlier yesterday.


Now Harpoon...*shakes head* where to begin? Let's try these facts, questions, and responses to you:


1. Why don't you post your template? Including ALL the professions you have mastered, and what you are right now. Here's mine: Master Rifleman / Master TKA / Scout 4040 / Medic 2000 / Marksman 4001 / Brawler 4000. There ya go. If you add up all the skill points, I think they come out to 250. Now I could go and take away the medic and scout skills and get something else to do (i would have 66 points to play with) but I don't because I use Ikaika to also hunt and gather resources. I haven't mastered ANY other professions as Ikaika. And I mastered Rifleman about 6 weeks ago now.


Rifleman 4/1/3/2 scout 4/0/4/3 medic 4/4/4/4 artistan 3/0/0/4 marksman 4/0/0/4


2. I chose TKA / Rifleman not because it was FOTM. Here's my reason for choosing these 2 professions. TKA = because my buddy was TKA and I noticed a few things:1) he could take a lot of damage; 2) he could deal a lot of damage; 3) he always got the loot (what can I say, I'm greedy!); 4) because I though it was cool and fun. Here's some of the reasons I chose Rifleman: 1)I'm a rifleman in the Army reserves, why not here?; 2) I always wanted to be one in this game anyway; 3) I wanted to be able to deal A LOT of damage, and after researching, rifleman were the best damage dealers, 4) I was going to going to build Ikaika to be a PvP and PvE damage dealer to begin with, and 5) I wanted the ranged DB to kill people with.


so? thats why its become the bread and butter combo for riflemen. I never said it was not effective.


3. Defense stacking? Man, are you on crack...still? If I wanted a defense stacking template I'd have gone Pistoleer / Fencer / Rogue or some such. As near as I can tell w/o being in the game to check, my ranged defense is +50, and my melee defense is +52. Compared to the +180ish and +200 ish from the true stacker, I suck. The only thing I have over +100 is unarmed speed and accuracy. Yes, I have melee mitigation 3 and ranged mitigation 3. So would anyone else who has a Melee / Ranged combo. LOL...drugs are bad, mmmm'kay?


did u read what i said?


4. Anotherreason why I chose TKA - I can cure my own wounds and disease / poison / bleeds. That's it. While grinding TKA and Rifles, I never used powerboost or FoW.I only use it now as needed in PvP, and I do this only because I thought I'd give it atry. Besides, in PvP..assuming I live after the FoW, I can only use it like 1 time every hour.


... what does this prove? You're just reiterating how good TKA is


5. My other character Kamehameha was my Holo-Whore.Ikaika is going to stay a TKA/Rifleman until he dies. Jump around to the best combinations?Why the hell not? If someone wants to be the best atkilling, he'll go to wherehe will have the best chance at survival or stay where he is and learn how to fight effectively and survive. It sounds like you are advocating staying in one professionthe whole time you play. If you are, you're just being ignorant...again. At the same time, every profession has a weakness or counter profession to it. If you are a Rifleman / Chef...please don'texpect to beat me all the time. However, a Rifleman / Chef could easily kill me if they use good tactics. Not likely, but they could


no, with the new foods, chef would be buffed out the a$$ and he'd win..


6.Sorry this one is for PsychoticChipmunk: 2 things : 1) Love the name!, and 2) I was seriously considering Swordsman for that same reason, but really wanted the ability to heal my wounds and different DoTs. But, what I would love about Swordsman is the Blast Damage on the Powerhammer.


just stick w/ TKA, thats what everyone else does


7. Attacking Random HAM bars: Dude, you really are friggin stupid aren't you? TKA has 1 attack that specifiacally attacks the mind pool, UA Head Hit 1. 1 attack for the action pool, UA Leg Hit 1, and 1 attack for the Health Pool, UA body hit 1. Everything else is an attack on a random pool.


what are you arguing about????


8. TKA aint getting nerfed. Get over it...and damnit, learn how to friggin fight, will ya? Are you a Rifleman or a crybaby? Rifleman don't cry, we get even.


you mean we get TKA...


9. Picking the rebellion is the path of least resistence? Not on Valcyn, dickhead. The GCW is in full flavor over here, and the Imps kick some major butt! Tossing out one liners just makes you look more and more like a friggin idiot.


sorry, I'm on Bria


10. Ok, timeout. I want you all to look at a couple things here:


Harpoon said"...but i fear that by the time i get master, riflemen will get nerfed by association, as they are beginning to be."


He also said "...I have been a plain rifleman since the game started."


and also "...But while I b1tch, other people like the ones i mentioned just hop to the next flavour of the month like a cheap wh0re, and then brag about how good they are."


and finally "...People like you are always jumping around, getting the best combinations, etc"


other facts: he joined the forum 7/03, but claims to have been playing since the beginning...ok, I will give him the benefit of the doubt. He has posted 1700+ times. Ok, good, he likes to post.


my account got reset after i had to leave for 3 months, if you search for my posts they dont have any of the ones i posted from this year at all since (maybe because it considers the account before cancellation differnet or i maxed out).. they start at july and end in september.


What really got me here is the fact that he plainly says he isn't a master rifleman yet. Despite being here since the game started.We are talking around 8 months now. Even playing for only 8 hours a week, he should have mastered Rifleman, but maybe he is just a REALLY slow learner. And yet he also accuses us of being FOTM folk who jump from profession to profession. Hmm? I smell a rat, a liar, a hypocrite, and someone just trying to get a rise out of all of us. My suggestion...let's just ignore his dumb a$$ everytime he posts. Maybe then he'll finally go away.


Sorry for the length on this, I just hate some twerp trying to argue something he has no friggin clue about.


Take care folks...shoot true.


Ikaika


it took me so long because riflemen were once much harder to get xp in... you registered in novemember, but u have another character and i dont know where you started your rifleman. Now that 2.5x melee damagage is gone, accuracy is much better, buffs are good, i am making much more progress. But i still can't have huge grind sessions like some people can. And I was also never a CH and didn't use a pet for XP to any degree. You sound like you came in on rifleman after it was improved, with a pet that nullifies all challenge in the game.








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