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Seflyn

Mon Sep 29, 2003 8:34 am

It should be possible to hit over 800 damage using HS3 with a pre nerf T21 with a max damage powerup. I'm not sure what effect AP has on resist since the info we were given seems to beshi....umm wrong.

If you take a pre nerf T21, this weapon couldhave over 700 max damage, when you factor in a 2x AP advantage with no resist you can hit for 4921 in PvE resulting in a 1230 hit in PvP. This is using Hs3 with the damage multiplier being 3.

If the resist formula we were given is correct (I have my doubts) then an AP3 weapon on AP1 reduces the resist of the target by 50% and then 50% again. So you would still be getting hit for 1079 (I think ).

However this does not reflect the true damage of a rifleman since pre nerf T21s are not that common, even post nerf T21s are not available on a lot of servers.

While I agree headshot 2 should not be beating eyeshot, headshot 3 should be. Where as currently HS2 is better than HS3 under a lot of circumstances due to the amount of mind damage HS3 inflicts on the user.

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gfdhgf

Mon Sep 29, 2003 11:28 am

#15

yea, my friend was just curous, but i think eyeshot needs to be changed abit but not weaken it to hell maybe different/more penalties etc, but yea i heard master is great, my opinion on the speed cap is if some1 can get their rifle to shoot that faster then it should, its pretty hard esp for a laser rifle or t21, and if they need to do a speed cap, why speed cap? why not take away some speed mods?

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Jybisu

Mon Sep 29, 2003 11:38 am

#16

I'm sick of all this whining.

You died to a Bounty Hunter.

Someone whose job is to find and kill/capture people one on one.

Were you buffed? Spiced? Power up in the weapon?

I know I am when I PvP, I like to go in prepared.

Next time get some friends. You'll see how fast a BH goes down.

Trust me, I know. I am a Bounty Hunter. We are not the invincible Gods of PvP you think we are.

Its hilarious, with just a little strategy, you can defeat practically everyone. Oh wait, that would require actual thinking.

And who wants to do that right?

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Raloorn

Mon Sep 29, 2003 12:01 pm

#17

gfdhgf wrote:
i can go with that, something needs to be done, but to be fair, not just a simple nerf

sometimes a nerf is needed for the betterment of the game.

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Aden_Nak

Mon Sep 29, 2003 1:55 pm

#18

Well, first off, the Devs DO think that Eyeshot is too powerful. . . for a Tier II skill. They are moving it to Master Bounty Hunter and replacing it with a much crappier shot. Since 90% of the people who take Bounty Hunter are just going there for the LLC and Eyeshot, that should solve this issue almost entirely.

That being said, part of the problem is the equipment that is available to each class.

http://www.adennak.com/chat/fwg.jpg

http://www.adennak.com/chat/scatter.jpg

Most Riflemen can't find/afford 11 identical Krayts.

I am not saying that the Bounty Hunter in question USED Krayts. I am saying that they are becoming more popular, and as long as Pistols only take 1 or 2 (which you can get from almost any type of Krayt) and Rifles take 8-11 (which, for the T-21, you can ONLY get from an Ancient Krayt) for the SAME LEVEL OF UPGRADE. . . well. . .

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Fred_Skinner

Tue Sep 30, 2003 12:43 am

#19

Jybisu wrote:

I'm sick of all this whining.

You died to a Bounty Hunter.

Someone whose job is to find and kill/capture people one on one.

Were you buffed? Spiced? Power up in the weapon?

I know I am when I PvP, I like to go in prepared.

Next time get some friends. You'll see how fast a BH goes down.

Trust me, I know. I am a Bounty Hunter. We are not the invincible Gods of PvP you think we are.

Its hilarious, with just a little strategy, you can defeat practically everyone. Oh wait, that would require actual thinking.

And who wants to do that right?

Really? Ya think we don't prepare?

Try this hot-shot:
BH+Doctor=uber
MR+Doctor=MR with ass hanging out

Tell me do YOU have to worry about teleportingbunnies hitting you for 800 while prone? You should have died to a SNIPER, SOMEONE TRAINED IN THE WAYS OF STEALTH AND DROPPING ANYTHING LIVING IN ONE SHOT AT GREAT DISTACES. Don't even TRY to bring anology to this game, itdoesn't work.

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Sarcool

Tue Sep 30, 2003 4:56 am

#20

The main problem with Eye shot is it has 2 functions. It blinds you (which means the odds of you hitting him back are slim to none) and then using a pistol speed it will take your mind down in just a few sec's.

I'm a Master CH and Master Rifleman and I have had a BH kill me and my pets all because we could not hit him back once he gets the 1st shot off. He takes the mind down on me and 2 pets while we just keep missing him because of the blind. Even if I do get one bleed shot on him, (Which I have done) he will still get that one Eye shot off and after that it is all over. BTW I have 1100 mind

Sarcool

Tue Sep 30, 2003 5:16 am

#21

O I forgot to add this to my previous post above when they use Eye shot, (which attacks the Mind of the target) it does not use their mind humm but all our mindshots use mind.

GarGanGaRgAnTuA

Tue Sep 30, 2003 5:34 am

#22

it probably was SS2 and just happen to hit the mind pool, very lucky shot

SocialConformer

Tue Sep 30, 2003 7:07 am

#23

Seflyn wrote:

I still think they should change it onto a percentage based upgrade instead of a flat +30 - +100. T21s need to be easier to craft full stop, paying more for a T21 than a rocket launcher is just wrong.

Exactly. But then, they would get scared of the potential again. It's just not 'balanced' that pistols can get a larger %increase in their max damage output using less rare tissues than a rifle can - Before slicing and powering up.



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Waylay

Tue Sep 30, 2003 8:03 am

#24

at that range the rifleman should loose. dont blast eye shot for being a powerful attack it should be. what you should be blasting is your friend for evening thinking that he would stand a chance to beat a bounty hunter at that range. a rifleman is all about range if he wasnt at 50 or 60 m then there shouldnt have even been a fight. also the speed of eye shot is based on the person using it getting a better bonus to pistol speed then then your friend has to rifle speed and to the fact that your friends is using a weapon that may have a speed of around 7.5 vs a weapon that is 2.8 or close to that. come on think before you post this trash. if you were at 64m and he had beaten your friend and they were both masters then i would say there is something wrong but this trash is a waste of broad space.

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Seflyn

Tue Sep 30, 2003 12:45 pm

#25

It's not all pistols, from what I've heard from pistoleers, the DX2 (I think, it's early here) takes 4 krayt tissue, while the FWG5 only takes 1. However as the FWG5 is only AP0 it's not such a big deal for me, the scatter being AP1 with stats like that IS a big deal.

I still think they should change it onto a percentage based upgrade instead of a flat +30 - +100. T21s need to be easier to craft full stop, paying more for a T21 than a rocket launcher is just wrong.

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Jaled-bare

Sat Oct 04, 2003 10:13 pm

#26

My solution:

Move eyeshot from bounty pistol 2 to Master Rifleman.

(I'm serious.)

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