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Thread: Rifleman NERF??? Details please!

Leadhead101
Sat Apr 03, 2004 7:06 am
#14






DrunkBothan wrote:





Leadhead101 wrote:

Get used to it. The best way to do that is to be a Droid engineer. I saw probots get nerfed 3 times before I gave up. Just to let you know, the combat probot droid in the droid invasion rollout was really a nerf also. Probot gottwice the ham, but their medium armor with 40% resists went to no armor with 20% resists.


Hmmmm....lets see which is better, yeah let me think.


Dang, why dont they have a :rolleyes: smiley.






yeah tell me about it! I went DE not to long ago cause I was all excited... "Woo hoo combat droids" I would scream. I read many post about how stupid it was but I remained stead fast and wanted to just "wait and see". Sure enough DE got the shaft. So I just continue the long march to master fencer (for an unbuffed Bothan anyways). Then decided to pick up rifleman as an long range offensive profession only to start hearing about an impending nerf.






LOL! Blademaster here! You and I seem to enjoy the same type of pain. Although Fencer is cool now, when I started, my blaster friends would laugh at me and the only people I could look down on were Pikemen.


If they do nerf something, I feel that it should be the one thing crucial to rifleman survival...BLOCK!




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AgarAwohis
Sat Apr 03, 2004 11:06 pm
#15

im sorry but you need to take a hit from the nerf bong....you cant have the speed of a pistoleer with twice the damage..im sorry its just not kosher. and then you want the ranged defenses too? give me a break. you cant play this game right now and be good at pvp unless you are a rifleman spamming master headshot. its ridiculous. if i see one more jawa ion rifle ill scream



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RemoMoxey
Sun Apr 04, 2004 3:28 am
#16






Leadhead101 wrote:





DrunkBothan wrote:





Leadhead101 wrote:

Get used to it. The best way to do that is to be a Droid engineer. I saw probots get nerfed 3 times before I gave up. Just to let you know, the combat probot droid in the droid invasion rollout was really a nerf also. Probot gottwice the ham, but their medium armor with 40% resists went to no armor with 20% resists.


Hmmmm....lets see which is better, yeah let me think.


Dang, why dont they have a :rolleyes: smiley.






yeah tell me about it! I went DE not to long ago cause I was all excited... "Woo hoo combat droids" I would scream. I read many post about how stupid it was but I remained stead fast and wanted to just "wait and see". Sure enough DE got the shaft. So I just continue the long march to master fencer (for an unbuffed Bothan anyways). Then decided to pick up rifleman as an long range offensive profession only to start hearing about an impending nerf.






LOL! Blademaster here! You and I seem to enjoy the same type of pain. Although Fencer is cool now, when I started, my blaster friends would laugh at me and the only people I could look down on were Pikemen.


If they do nerf something, I feel that it should be the one thing crucial to rifleman survival...BLOCK!







lol.....you do realize block is and has been broken, right?



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PyscoJuggalo
Sun Apr 04, 2004 3:48 am
#17






AgarAwohis wrote:

im sorry but you need to take a hit from the nerf bong....you cant have the speed of a pistoleer with twice the damage..im sorry its just not kosher. and then you want the ranged defenses too? give me a break. you cant play this game right now and be good at pvp unless you are a rifleman spamming master headshot. its ridiculous. if i see one more jawa ion rifle ill scream





Bah just nerf Secondary buffs and Riflemen would not be able to spam sheit, hell we would not even be able to wear armor.



Infact I think Doctors need to toke some of that Buff nerf Sheit.





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BlackMageMerc
Sun Apr 04, 2004 11:01 am
#18

Well I'm thinking this, rifleman is actauly working as a combat proff now. So say rather then nerf is, WHY DON'T THEY FIX THE OTHER ONES SO THEY CAN BE ON THE SAME LEVEL! Cripies all I see now adays is TKM, Heavy Swordsmen and some riflemen, fix the other proffs so its on the same freaking page, not a diffrent volume....


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ROBO1964
Sun Apr 04, 2004 4:32 pm
#19

If you read the state of the game letter you will see they arn't doing combat balancing till maybe after July is ever. They seem to have no clear vision for the game. They jump around from fad to fad changing things. Its like trying to keep tabs on a hyperactive child. You never know what they are going to do next till they have done it.


I am new to the game and Pub 7 was my first patch. I liked how they said all the great things they were doing and didn't mention a single nerf. I seem to remember the thing I hated in Planetside was the stealth nerfs. They should tell us all the nerfs they are going to do. The reason they don't is because of the outrage it would cause by everyone in that class. But if thats the case then maybe they shouldn't do it if that many people are opposed.
G3N0C1DE
Sun Apr 04, 2004 10:22 pm
#20

Well i've been a rifleman ever since a started playing (bout 2 weeks after launch) I have heard the same rumor about the 3 sec cap for about a month now. I can maybe see us getting a 3 sec cap, but they would have to increase our accuracy and damage (sneaky sniper)


For all the nerf herders out there, the reason we're so uber is not the profession, it's the food and buffs. Ask any rifleman, they won't last a second out on the battlefield without buffs or food.


Our only true defense is broken and most of our specials are pathetic. Seriously, who uses a posture up attack? And for all you people that say it's impossible to kill riflemen in pvp, get a CM, half of pvpers are cms... poison/disease and run away





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Leadhead101
Mon Apr 05, 2004 12:37 am
#21









lol.....you do realize block is and has been broken, right?





Yes, I was being sarcastic.



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BlackMageMerc
Mon Apr 05, 2004 3:59 am
#22

Or a TK master who runs around corners and knocks you down and proceeds to well, lets just say turn you into a smeer on the floor =)



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Grozemumaco
Mon Apr 05, 2004 5:35 am
#23

When all the best PvP people are either one of two professions I see a problem. Others do well in PvP but rifles and CM are obviously the two best professions.


Rifle - Good defense/best offense.


CM - Other then Doc no way to mitigate damage or stop it. Throws from super far.


People that make the argument that it is working as intended are crazy. So all the professions should be able to kill groupsof people in 2-5 seconds. That doesn't seem like fun to me.


Yettii_TUS
Mon Apr 05, 2004 6:35 am
#24






G3N0C1DE wrote:

Well i've been a rifleman ever since a started playing (bout 2 weeks after launch) I have heard the same rumor about the 3 sec cap for about a month now. I can maybe see us getting a 3 sec cap, but they would have to increase our accuracy and damage (sneaky sniper)


For all the nerf herders out there, the reason we're so uber is not the profession, it's the food and buffs. Ask any rifleman, they won't last a second out on the battlefield without buffs or food.


Our only true defense is broken and most of our specials are pathetic. Seriously, who uses a posture up attack? And for all you people that say it's impossible to kill riflemen in pvp, get a CM, half of pvpers are cms... poison/disease and run away








That's both true and untrue. Being a Rifleman affords you some tactics that can be used quite successfully while unbuffed. Heck, for *most* of my leveling I go out and do missions for pickets and gaping spiders unbuffed. As long as I'm careful I can usually do pretty good.


But you are right, when the s hits the fan you need to be buffed, fed and drunk. Otherwise the high HAM spamshots kill me before the monsters do.




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G3N0C1DE
Mon Apr 05, 2004 6:49 am
#25






BlackMageMerc wrote:
Or a TK master who runs around corners and knocks you down and proceeds to well, lets just say turn you into a smeer on the floor =)







I stated before, it's all about the food


Gobble some KD defense food and you'll be perfectly fine.





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Khragon
Mon Apr 05, 2004 6:51 am
#26

Few things with Riflemen:


A) Should NOT shoot as fast as a pistoleer

B) Should not be as accurate at 4m as a pistoleer

C) Should not have ranged defenses more then a carb or pistoleer

D) A pistoleer at closer ranges should equate to a Riflemen accuracy at longer ranges.

E) Accuracy should drop when moving
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