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Thread: If we do get a 3 second cap....

Raptor2k1
Tue Mar 09, 2004 11:36 pm
#14

Are you serious? Anyone who PvP's needs to be heavily buffed if they want to survive, it's nothing unique to rifleman.


On another topic, how they hack are you getting taken down so fast by commandos? Do you fight without armor or something? if you think a 3 second speed cap is bad, try dealing with not being able to even approach the speed cap because you have to wait 8-10 seconds between shots at master.




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The_Domonator
Wed Mar 10, 2004 6:21 am
#15

Now if you want attention, thats a way to get it. Ill go play FF Im sure the Dev's of SWG will love that. Don't nerf the rifle or.... or.... Ill go play Diablo 2!

Oh and about the 3 second cap. You'll still be able to dish the damage, along with the beautiful defences, just couple it with another class. Like the super nerfed TKA or... Commando? Heh.



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darmokVtS
Wed Mar 10, 2004 8:48 am
#16

I wait and see what really happens, as far as ppl can tell (from the few bits and pieces you can find on the boards) the combatrebalance and the change to the ham system might change a lot and not just slap a speecap on us and keep everything else like it is.

What I will do: If Rifles become a bad tool for my main profession (ranger), I will probably switch to a different tool (I see the combatprofession just as a necessary tool for my hunting). If Rifles still work out ok for me, I will stay where I am (If rifles will end up gimped in PvP but still a good tool for creaturehunting I ofc will stick to the rifles, I don't care about PvP like the majority of this game does not care about PvP)

As noone can tell right now what really will happen, I just relax and hunt and won't bother with wasting major thoughts on what I might do in future .




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b_ming
Wed Mar 10, 2004 9:14 am
#17

im waiting and if the nerf affects me to badly if it doesim going back to master BH/pistoler 0-3-4-0 with the defence stacking i should be able to hit stuff.






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shadowlith
Wed Mar 10, 2004 11:07 am
#18

Have, Am, and Always will be a Rifleman.




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SWG-Skemo
Wed Mar 10, 2004 12:36 pm
#19

Yeah, I can't imagine playing a class besides Rifleman (only combat profession I've ever used), so I'll stick with it come hell or high water.



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Rocacca
Wed Mar 10, 2004 7:55 pm
#20

if we get 3 second cap bye bye swg.
shadowlith
Wed Mar 10, 2004 8:10 pm
#21








Ipseck wrote:
Is there a post anywhere with any mention to this 3 second cap?


Back when everyone was made Combat Medic Correspondant for about 45 minutes, a couple of us got on the Correspondant forums and looked around. It was brought up there by TH, and is scheduled for Publish 8. Along with other "balances" to Riflemen.

BH and Commando's spend a helluvalot more skill points than a rifleman does. They SHOULD take you down more than half the time.


This statement is debatable. MASTER Bounty Hunters, yes, and aMaster Marksman/MasterRifleman will lose to one about 40% of the time. Assuming the MBH is smart and doesn't just spam Eyeshot. But you must remember, A bounty hunter Spends almost 76 Points on SCOUT alone. Let them use traps on me and maybe I'll consider your argument more valid. Thats 76 points going towards NON-Combat. Not to mention a BH does not SPECIALIZE in any weapon. The fact that they get better Pistol and Carbine Specials than a Master of those respective proffessions is pure short sightedness on the part of SOE. Factor in the Lightning cannon and Investigation trees, and we're looking at an almost equal point distribution to Combat. There is a reason people can stack Master Carbine or Pistol with the BH tree. It's because the COMBAT points spent are similar. And I'll agree, for a pure combat class, Commandos need a LOT of loving. But don't cry on Skill Points for BH.

And your reference to pistoleers must be a joke.. For starters Pistoleers don't even hit the speed cap so 3 shots to your one isn't accurate. Also DX2s and Republic's don't come anywhere near a t21 and have a third of the AP. Heck, they are about the same as a Jawa, but the jawa hits stun AND ap1. So you're going to complain about shooting slower than a pistoleer who does less damage, less AP and has less accuracy than a rifleman?


Dead on here. IMO, Pistol and Rifle speed mods should be reversed. Then we can avoid the silliness of a speed cap in anything. Oh and one more thing, I don't know about your server, but some Pistoleers on my server have some kick ass Krayt Geo Pistols. 400 Point Fan Shots through armor hurt









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GKM
Wed Mar 10, 2004 8:11 pm
#22

All I gotta say is man the devs really goofed on this one if they give us a 3sec cap.


Any one heard of the Geonisan Sonic Pistol.... Oh yeah some dude just posted a screenshot of his. The stats are 500max damage at 1.8 speed damage is STUN...


Soagainst anything that has energy resistance Pistols can now do more damage and are just as fast as riflemenBEFORE this NERF.Smugglers just own with their Last Ditch and pistols are uber with their Stopping Shot witha GEO pistol. I usually was content with what the devs were doing until this... How did they miss this!!


Well if we get a speed cap we better get a Jawa Ion that does like 830 Max damage if not i'm moving on to pistoleer.

JuCat
Wed Mar 10, 2004 8:39 pm
#23








Ipseck wrote:
Is there a post anywhere with any mention to this 3 second cap?








The only place i ever saw anything about a speed cap was in one of TH posts way back, 3-4 months ago, and if I remeber correctly he was stating that it was something they want to stay away from.




I agree, that a MBH with 227 skill pointsspent to master should beat a Master Rifleman who has only spent 92 skillpoints. However a MRM combined with another mastery of an elite combat profession would and should be another story.










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shadowlith
Wed Mar 10, 2004 8:59 pm
#24






GKM wrote:

All I gotta say is man the devs really goofed on this one if they give us a 3sec cap.


Any one heard of the Geonisan Sonic Pistol.... Oh yeah some dude just posted a screenshot of his. The stats are 500max damage at 1.8 speed damage is STUN...


Soagainst anything that has energy resistance Pistols can now do more damage and are just as fast as riflemenBEFORE this NERF.Smugglers just own with their Last Ditch and pistols are uber with their Stopping Shot witha GEO pistol. I usually was content with what the devs were doing until this... How did they miss this!!


Well if we get a speed cap we better get a Jawa Ion that does like 830 Max damage if not i'm moving on to pistoleer.





Krayt up a JIR and you can beat that easily. That is a high end Krayt Geo. Not everyone will be running around with one.





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And be born a new.

Flames will rain down upon all that oppose him
And when the embers cool

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FurryFury
Wed Mar 10, 2004 9:24 pm
#25

You guys need a 3 second cap. When any normal person thinks of a rifleman, a true sniper.... they do not think of them firing fast shots - thats ridiculous. A sniper will fire very few, slow and powerful shots. I'm tired of my mind being gone so fast in pvp because everyone is riflemen these days. You all deserve to get nerfed for complaining about a 3 sec cap on speed.
signal1941
Wed Mar 10, 2004 10:17 pm
#26

Not all riflemen are snipers, I don't automatically think of snipers when I think of a rifleman. As far as I know the only ones who do are the nerf callers



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