Rifleman Archive

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lammergeier wrote:

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Ackehece wrote:

thank you - that was beautiful to read

/wipe tear from eye

It really is nice to have someone not complain for a change.

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it's my job to complain, as long as I do it constructively.

/backtobugreports

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/pet yes yes it is your job (SO BACK TO WORK SLAVE!) ^_^ but you as do it constructively rather then *I_AM_PEEVED_THE _CU_SUCKS_ CAN_IT_NOW*I will thank you for your excellent posts as well.

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Levoyan wrote:

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LecheHombre wrote:
I'll chime in and say that I have also enjoyed my experiences on TC5 with the CU so far. We're all going to have to re-learn the game, so I can understand why some people are upset, but I am quite sure that the game will be much better off once its done. The combat system seems good, creatures will be good with a balance pass, weapons are going to be really good because of increased diversity, and the profession trees look like they will be fun and interesting.

One comment about the auto-attack via ctrl-click. I have had mixed experiences with it, it couldn't get it to work on lairs at all and it seemed to stop working sometimes on creatures/MOBs in general also. I am also worried about being able to make a special attack your default looping combat action. Isn't eliminating the ability to spam attacks one of the major points of the CU? I think I would prefer it if a standard attack was the default action, and would loop without any special actions from the user, and clicking a special would enqueue it as the next action, but you can only enqueue 1 thing at a time.

In any case, I think that if folks keep in mind that the CU on TC right now is essentially a public beta, and that creatures/weapons/etc. are all going to be balanced several times, they could see that the CU will end up being a real positive change for the game.

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I have had the same thing happen to me, it seemed like it happened pretty often. I would be in a fight and then just stop attacking and stand there. Is this a bug?

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It seemed that auto attack stopped working whenever I changed postures. I then had to re-click it to attack again. Anyway, does changing postures even do anything? There is no range modifier displayed to indicate whether it makes any difference. I also seemed to have no penalty for using a rifle point blank while prone (weird, but I'm not complaining:smileyhappy, and could not fire at all while riding a mount. Overall, I like where this is headed..

I've noticed the "auto attack" breaks if the mob gets +out of sight+ or +out of range+. It also breaks if you try to do something you can't, like an attack with the wrong weapon, or from the wrong posture, or from the wrong state.

I would say, that with the selectable default attack, spamming is still here, but the higher level attacks WILL eat up your action pool so you won't be able to spam them for long. With that being said I still want to see the combat que back.. not the que we are used to but one that fits in this "3moves ahead" style. I would like to see a que that displays the 3-5 moves you have coming. I know this is already sort of there from the colored outlines we see around our hotkeys but quite frankly it helps to know I accidently hit /bactainjection twice by accident by seeing it qued up twice in the que instead of trying to see what button has the right color around it and did I really get them in the right order. All while trying to watch the battlefield, my groupmates, ensure the target doesn't get out of rang or out of sight and manuevering appropriately.

Frankly I still miss the combat que, this is after about 12 hours of playing.

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Excess3 wrote:
I've noticed the "auto attack" breaks if the mob gets +out of sight+ or +out of range+. It also breaks if you try to do something you can't, like an attack with the wrong weapon, or from the wrong posture, or from the wrong state.

I would say, that with the selectable default attack, spamming is still here, but the higher level attacks WILL eat up your action pool so you won't be able to spam them for long. With that being said I still want to see the combat que back.. not the que we are used to but one that fits in this "3moves ahead" style. I would like to see a que that displays the 3-5 moves you have coming. I know this is already sort of there from the colored outlines we see around our hotkeys but quite frankly it helps to know I accidently hit /bactainjection twice by accident by seeing it qued up twice in the que instead of trying to see what button has the right color around it and did I really get them in the right order. All while trying to watch the battlefield, my groupmates, ensure the target doesn't get out of rang or out of sight and manuevering appropriately.

Frankly I still miss the combat que, this is after about 12 hours of playing.

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I feel your pain on the combat queue... don't have to be able to click any farther ahead, but at least give the players the option of a visible queue. I also miss the "to hit" modifier showing, am not a fan of the floating HAM bars or bold text (they obstruct and clutter the view, to my mind).

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Ackehece wrote:

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LecheHombre wrote:
I miss the combat queue, but having it be limited to 2-3 moves wouldn't bother me. Actually, the biggest thing that I noticed is that since there is no combat queue window, we don't have a /peace button unless you slap it in the toolbar.

The lack of accuracy modifiers from range/motion is also weird.

I have a feeling they will put the queue list back in, even if it only shows the next attack you have queued up.

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not currently in the plans... they believe I think that the little slowly filling icons is good enought

They also want combat to be proactive - you have to be there to do it.

also your next attack you have lined up if it is not a auto attack is outlined in yellow - you can have multiple attacks lined up as long as they are from different special pools. (currently we only have the marksmens specials pool)

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Good to know. :-)

BTW, anyone else's Peace icon busted? I've got about half a dozen busted icons, they just show an old white on colour figure, and do a constant jig to the right...

BTW2, I noticed that the toolbar is now three rows deep for each of the 6 sets... just hit your scroll wheel when over the toolbar to move it up/down.

I miss the combat queue, but having it be limited to 2-3 moves wouldn't bother me. Actually, the biggest thing that I noticed is that since there is no combat queue window, we don't have a /peace button unless you slap it in the toolbar.

The lack of accuracy modifiers from range/motion is also weird.

I have a feeling they will put the queue list back in, even if it only shows the next attack you have queued up.

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LecheHombre wrote:
I miss the combat queue, but having it be limited to 2-3 moves wouldn't bother me. Actually, the biggest thing that I noticed is that since there is no combat queue window, we don't have a /peace button unless you slap it in the toolbar.

The lack of accuracy modifiers from range/motion is also weird.

I have a feeling they will put the queue list back in, even if it only shows the next attack you have queued up.

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KundoJet wrote:
BTW, anyone else's Peace icon busted? I've got about half a dozen busted icons, they just show an old white on colour figure, and do a constant jig to the right...

BTW2, I noticed that the toolbar is now three rows deep for each of the 6 sets... just hit your scroll wheel when over the toolbar to move it up/down.

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Yep, I think that the dancing old-style cover icon is the equivalent of "default appearance" boxes for skill icons. They've probably got the art department locked in dark, moist cells, and come by every hour for lashings if they aren't making progress... Gotta get done before Ep. 3 comes out.

Cool to hear that the toolbar is now 3 rows deep! I wonder if they'll allow it to be resized so that all of them are visible?