Rifleman Archive

Witter SHUT THE HELL UP if u dont like it quit the profession or better yet quit the game!!!!!!!

We dont need idiots like u ruining it for us rifleman who know we deserve it!! RIGHT MASTER RIFLEMAN

We have waited a long time to see some justice to our profession and we dont need people like u threading a nerf this skill just because u dont like.

Like i said if u dont like it QUIT

SirViolator

Master Rifleman / Master Heavy Swordsman

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Witter wrote:
i would wager that all of you rifleman that happened to draw aggro oopsed and made an auto attack or 2 in the midst of your conceal shots

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You would lose that wager, Sparky.

But, y'know, whatever. Your mind is clearly made up. No point bothering you with facts.

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Witter wrote:
whatever guys, i hate to say it but you can even miss and not draw aggro, i would wager that all of you rifleman that happened to draw aggro oopsed and made an auto attack or 2 in the midst of your conceal shots, because yes you will draw aggro if you use any shot other than conceal.......BUT if you are patient, patient being the key word you can exclusively use conceal shot (with drugs) to kill anything (including groups) with this one technique, but w/e if you all want to be the uberest pve chars that is fine but i still believe as it is that conceal shot is overpowerful (not in damage but in stature). flame on

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it's why you spam conceal shot when you're using it.

ok i started rifleman a week ago, am now a master. don't use conceal shot often, but even as a novice with one box i could solo lvl 41 missions if i was patient and only used conceal shot.. they WILL NOT aggro you unless you use a auto-attack or special attack other than conceal shot. If you continually use conceal shot you have 100% chance of not getting any aggro, which is rediculous. I went and killed 5 kunga using only this technique, never to see agro. it is rediculous. that is why i am calling for a nerf. i can understand not being seen for like 2-3 shots, but come on i shot over 30 times at least with no detection or reprecussion. again i state this was not at master, not even 4 boxesup the accuracy tree only 2.

oh and the missing as much as you hit, maybe beforethey upped our accuracy and aim mods in the last patch, but since then i have missed VERY RARELY even when i was going up the rifle part of the marksman tree. of course you will miss if you are not standing still it is natural, try standing still or going prone it makes a big difference. there i said my part now continue to flame away

again stating MASTER RIFLEMAN radiant server.

I posted something earlier about this and received the same sort of reaction.

"You're crazy" kind of responses.

Maybe some sort of "The more you use this shot towards the same group of creatures the more likely you are to be detected" approach would be good.

So if you take out, one, two individuals in a group you're doing just fine. but the more you use it the more likely you are to be found out.

There's only so many times you can fire a gun out of a bell tower before someone figures out where you're shooting from.

luk

Sorry, I have no urge to be uber. Maybe that's my problem.

"we need a nerf"

Quiet you!

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Witter wrote:
conceal shot for us is VERY overpowered, comeon i mean i can shoot over 20 times and not be seen or aggroed by any of the surrounding mobs! we need a nerf master rifleman radiant ELement

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The agonizing slowness, the rapid depletion of one's mind bar, and npc's either strolling out of range or deciding to wake up and realize they're being shot, balance this skill very nicely. Please don't nerf this shot.

that is why i am calling for a nerf. i can understand not being seen for like 2-3 shots, but come on i shot over 30 times at least with no detection or reprecussion.

the reprecussion was you spending 80 minutes killing those 5 kungas. even at master concealshotting something powerful to death is painfully slow. it's horribly inefficient both in terms of money you can potentially earn, and xp. so what's the real issue here, or did you just not consider that aspect before you called for a nerf for the entire class?

High Level NPC camps are still quite deadly.

Did some Corbal Mining camps last night. These guys saw me at 61-64 meters out as I was going prone! Had 2 missions of them and both turned into full-scale battles.

Other types of NPCs are also dangerous. Esp if they walk around on a patrol route. A Master mauler will detect you out to 60+ meters. A regular mauler ate my lunch when we walked to within 40m of me. He detected me and I was a goner.

Some NPC missions are a cakewalk. But overall, I like the conceal shot. As a low level rifleman, I can finally do a few things that are worthwhile. Takes caution, patience and some scouting before determinine where to go prone. esp with the patroling NPCs and critters.

So I, for one, do NOT want to see this tactic change.

The downside? It does take a lot of mind and mind regen to use Conceal shot. My partner was continuously running low on mind. So she would sit and wait in between NPCs to regen.

Dang I love being a zabrak. Zabby Mind regen rocks for a rifleman.

Danum Krietner - TWC

mind is not an issue, i popped a muon gold and that was all it took to take out the kungas. you guys must have some pretty crappy damage rifles or are using stuff like the spraystick, try gettinga decent laser rifle. add to that a 33%/16% powerup and you are going to be taking them down in no time. as it is now my laser rifle does 73-578dmg unpowered. that jumps to 80somethin-700somethin with powerups, and oh btw conceal shot is not weak at all (it has same damage mods as headshot2 (2.5x)) so i am hitting for 2-3k each time with medium armor piercing as an added bonus.

Witter, you've got a point.

Last night on Dantooine i fired off over 400 concealed shots on Kunga's and Bols. I missed TWICE - i'm 1/1/3/2 on the tree so i don't have any great accuracy bonus yet.

Think about that - i missed twice the entire night. And yeah, i was **edit** retentive and watched my combat logs - but that was more because i noticed that the AP3 / AR0 bug appears to be back with the T21.

Somethings wrong somewhere - i love this shot, and don't want to see it nerfed, but sooner or later someones gonna see the effects of this, and the 1ee7 guys are gonna be all over rifleman.

Now i was taking time to setup at the best range, going prone etc, but man it was boring as hell to just spam out the shots over and over. So boring, i ain't planning to repeat it - all i wanted was enough xp to make 1/1/4/2 (and i'm 157 short !)

In case you're wondering, i have maxed mind/focus/willpower and wear no armour when using this shot. My T21's are sliced for damage, with the 33% powerups and mind reduction. Add a Muon and you can pretty much keep it up all night.

And yes, i've been aggro'd on - Last week i missed three shots against an AT-ST. Held my breath, then ran like hell (didn't help ;( )


Ibrahim Gaunt - Lowca - Rifleman 1/1/3/2 | Combat Medic 1/1/3/2