Ranger Archive
Thread: They never lsiten to us, the hate Rangers..well, CHECK THIS OUT!!!
frightwig
Fri Feb 25, 2005 8:32 am
#67
Dariane_Kamutsovy wrote:For me personally means I also have to leave my tactical 64m position, go in and harvest manually.
Your droid won't harvest something that's further than 64m away. You have to be withing 64 of the targeted corpse or you get the message "Target is out of range".
If someone has to run up to manually harvest the corpse, simply move forward about 5 feet or so.
Otherwise, as has been said before.. The DE and scout correspondents are aware of this issue.
Bethya
Fri Feb 25, 2005 8:53 am
#69
I'm just going to bask in the moment. No complaints, no thinking it through for now... just enjoying the knowledge that all our collective efforts were worth it.
Much credit to Owen, Calc and JB and all the rest... well done all. 
/blowkiss
JascoSmlee
Fri Feb 25, 2005 9:01 am
#70
Just a quick observation about droids:-
I've just done a quick test using my +76 droid. Stacked with veghash my droid pulled 301 units meat off a kamurith defiler (level 50). When i did it myself i got 309. It's not really a big difference I think you'll agree.On lower level stuff (level 25) my droid was consistently pulling only 1 unit less than me. Before the new Master bonus this droid consistently harvested at least the same as me, sometimes a little more, never less. I don't think I will be changing my playstyle for the sake of8 units on high level critters, or 1 unit on lesser stuff.
Sinkuu
Fri Feb 25, 2005 9:03 am
#71
ok, a couple of things..
first off.... RATGWNIWNU.
second... Paks/Owen thing et al.... BWAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA. 
":snores:"... LMAO
":snores:"... LMAOThird... the harvest droids are now USELESS in a group... was hunting kimos on my server, as Lok Carn meat is hot... I, as a 4342 Scout, was outharvesting the damn droid, both when it wasn't grouped, and when it WAS, and I was in a group of about 6-7 people. and I have a 117 droid.
Finally, I'd like to thank Calc, Owen, JB, and EVERYONE who helped on us getting to where we are... we did this as a TEAM, people... it proves that we CAN make this game fun if we try... I hope the other professions are able to get the stuff done for their jobs as wedid for ours.... and may we lead by the example we have shown.
Kintaro Matosi, Ranger-in-Training.
Gamble
Fri Feb 25, 2005 9:25 am
#72
Congrats on the change guys. I'm not a ranger and have never been one but this is a good change for you guys. Also, thanks for not being the drama queens about this that smugglers can be.. /me rolls eyes yowza lol.
DaveG
Fri Feb 25, 2005 10:36 am
#73
Hmm, interesting times indeed!
Great great boon for Master Rangers. My reservations about the group system still stand since even grouped rangers are getting a boost on a +150 harvesting mod, but having said that, Master Rangers get a harvesting skillof +150, that's worth a "WOW" in my book.
However, non-master rangers still have the solo/group issue, so not muchdifferent for those people. (I'm assuming 4444->Master is a jump of +60 as I've read in this thread, until I log in a see for myself).
A couple of questions:
- Owen, were you (et al) fighting for this all the time everyone wasarguing, or was this a surprise gift from the devs? (If the former, were you not allowed to tell us?)
- Calc, what does "the hate rangers" mean?
Calculus_Entropy
Fri Feb 25, 2005 10:44 am
#74
DaveG wrote:
- Calc, what does "the hate rangers" mean?
Since the dawn of Ranger, every patch the devs have made, every change the game has seen, any instance where a dev posted in Ranger (ok, BOTH instances 
). Someone, usually NOT acommon poster,says "The devs hate us" or "The Devs NEVER listen to us." I did notice a couple typos in my title though, yikes.
). Someone, usually NOT acommon poster,says "The devs hate us" or "The Devs NEVER listen to us." I did notice a couple typos in my title though, yikes.
LordArkon
Fri Feb 25, 2005 12:32 pm
#75
I am beyond happy. Since I prefer to hunt without Veghash or a droid.
Quick couple of questions. They've probably been answered. If they have, I'm sorry. I've been reading for the last hour + looking for an answer.
Okay, so with the new Master Bonus, we also get the 40% bonus in the group right? To get the group bonus, does a group member have to be in range? Or can I say, group with a couple of guildee's, let them do their thing on Dantooine, and I go to Endor to hunt and harvest, and still get the group bonus? (Them as well?)
Again, I apologize for my lack of understanding, this new influx of info is like sensory overload
Thanks in advance to anyone who can help. Much appreciated.
Quick couple of questions. They've probably been answered. If they have, I'm sorry. I've been reading for the last hour + looking for an answer.
Okay, so with the new Master Bonus, we also get the 40% bonus in the group right? To get the group bonus, does a group member have to be in range? Or can I say, group with a couple of guildee's, let them do their thing on Dantooine, and I go to Endor to hunt and harvest, and still get the group bonus? (Them as well?)
Again, I apologize for my lack of understanding, this new influx of info is like sensory overload
Thanks in advance to anyone who can help. Much appreciated.
Owen-Lars
Fri Feb 25, 2005 2:14 pm
#76
DaveG Wrote:
Owen, were you (et al) fighting for this all the time everyone wasarguing, or was this a surprise gift from the devs? (If the former, were you not allowed to tell us?)
I ddint know about this change before you mate, but i have been fighting for harvesting changes all the way through our discussions and ever since i became corr.
I basically send reports via email highlighting the issues, offering the solutions and their effects on rangers, the game and economy. Also i post threads highlight certain issues areas. Wasnt too long ago i posted another in-depth harvesting docy with many possible solutions.
Basically i dont stop pushing for changes, but alot of it is going over the same points and issues again and again. You never know if the devs get their ideas from us, my reports, proposals or simply are inspired by them. I think they like putting their own 'spin' on the changes as to not seem like they are being 'controlled' by the community but yeah they come very close to what has been proposed and said 
Obata
Fri Feb 25, 2005 3:57 pm
#78
Jasse wrote:
So with the new modifier plugged into Otaba's formula the harvesting factors becomes:
Solo MR: 2.5 (1 +150/100) a 25% increase from current live status.
Two MRs in a group: 3.5 (2.5*1.4) each
A lone MR in a reg. group: 3.0 (2.5*1.2)
A MR and a 0040 Ranger grouped: MR - 3.25 (2.5*1.3), 0040 - 2.66 (1.9*1.4) a ~22.2% advantage to the MR
A MR and a 0030/0020 Ranger grouped: MR - 3.25 (2.5*1.3), 0030 - 2.52 (1.8*1.4)/0020 - 2.38 (1.7*1.4) a ~29% and ~36.6% advantage to the MR respectively
Two 0040 Rangers in a group: 2.47 (1.9*1.4) the solo MR has a 1.2% advantage over these
MR/MS solo comparison gives the MR a harvest 66% higher ( (2.5-1.5)/1.5*100 ) than the MS. If they group the MR will harvest ~42.9%more.
Who is this Otaba, and what is his formula?
All your numbers look right except for the two 0040 rangers ones. They would only get a 30% bonus (1.9*1.3). Your result of 2.47 is right, so it was probably just a typo. i just don't want anyone to get confused.