Ranger Archive
Thread: I need your help and opinions
Temujin23
Mon Apr 04, 2005 2:05 am
#53
In regards tothe CU and the information that has come out(or lack thereof),will you be dropping ranger?
Difficult question. I will not drop ranger. Ever.That said, for me it's ranger or nothing. I won't drop ranger, but Iwill drop SWG.
Why are/arn'tyou dropping it?
I won't drop it because I love this prof despite its flaws. Its many, many flaws. Ranger has the potential to be outstanding, and there is no better player community.
Is it only temporary until the revamp?
What, are you deaf? I said I'm not dropping it already. Sheesh. The only (possibly) temporary thing here is my continued subscription, which hinges very heavily upon the treatment the ranger profession gets in the CU and/or its own profession revamp.
al-djinn'i
Master Ranger For Life/Master Pistolier
Eszra
Mon Apr 04, 2005 2:16 am
#54
In regards tothe CU and the information that has come out(or lack thereof),will you be dropping ranger?
I won't drop ranger, never ever. If ranger is totally screwed, after the CU and our revamp, I will just cancel my account.
Why are/arn'tyou dropping it?
There are 3 mastered professions in my bio: scout, ranger, rifleman. That's what I am, that's not going to change
Is it only temporary until the revamp?
See above - I won't change anything until our revamp goes live. If SOE srews it up - I'm just gone.
On a sidenote: I don't want our skillpoint-costs to be reduced, I want something good in exchange for them. Just lowering the costs is the cheapest and easiest way for SOE and it would leave a bad aftertaste for me. We are the only remaining true elite profession after the CU, don't make us smaller, just make us elite in our ways!
Rolfie
Mon Apr 04, 2005 3:01 am
#55
In regards tothe CU and the information that has come out(or lack thereof),will you be dropping ranger?
I am not dropping Ranger as much as I am dropping this toon. I am not going to grind out another profession to be viable in this game. In my case I will play my Alt and drop my ranger toon into statis or drop it all together. If I can no longer participate in combat or effectively hunt whats the point.
As someone said who is going to follow me around while I harvest organic resources for hours on end.
The point cost is a joke. I can track and I can harvest. So why do I need the camping line, and currently trapping onlyslows me down.
Why are/arn'tyou dropping it?
Again I am not dropping Ranger, but I will drop this toon.
Is it only temporary until the revamp?
I do not believe we will see a Ranger Revamp within two months of the CURB. It just isn't going to happen. That period will be devoted exclusively to squashing bugs in the CURB and balancing issues that still need addressing.
I would not think Ranger would be addressed before the Smuggler revamp (They were promised also and they have a developers document wereas we have never seen one.)either which has already received work.
So figure a couple of months after the smuggler revamp and we are into late 2005 maybe. So expecting a major publish every two months in my mind puts Ranger at least 6 months out from the CURB.
Once the CURB goes live, if my Ranger is totaly gimped then I will CURB my Ranger account.
darmokVtS
Mon Apr 04, 2005 4:41 am
#56
edited away my "vote" as I see my main reason for an eventual profession dropping is far from that certain as some people make it look like 
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.Message Edited by darmokVtS on 04-04-2005 06:52 PM
JokitoRoyo
Mon Apr 04, 2005 8:12 am
#57
Owen-Lars wrote:
In regards tothe CU and the information that has come out(or lack thereof),will you be dropping ranger?
More than likely I will drop the game.
Why are/arn'tyou dropping it?
Been playing a ranger since 03. Since 03 we have been talking about the revamp. Many great people put forward many great ideas. Nothing has ever been done. I think that its time to teach the devs that its time to put-up or shut-up.
So many of our ideas have been said to be un-doable but now for instance we learn that dissapearing, and dissapearing from the radar are not only DO-Able but now being Done. What else have they just flat out lied to us about?
Where is the post from a dev telling us what is or isn't going to happen? No communication: Business as Usual. Bold Faced Lies from Devs: Business as Usual.
Is it only temporary until the revamp?
Once my prepay is over, I'll most likely just be done. Part of me thinks this is what they wanted all along.
Please answer truthfully about your current plans.
cheers, owen
WookieInLaw
Mon Apr 04, 2005 9:15 am
#58
In regards tothe CU and the information that has come out(or lack thereof),will you be dropping ranger?
It all depends upon the communication we're givenbetween now and the end of the CURB beta.I know that doesn't help much, but I guess my answer is, "It remains to be seen."
Why are/aren'tyou dropping it?
If I see that Ranger is going to be overlooked, or that there isn't going to be any compensation given for the fact that we are now the only Elite profession that requires a full Novice mastery -- or if word doesn't come down the line soon in regard to our "revamp" -- I'll probably just cancel my account.
I am a Ranger. That's who I am. If it no longer makes sense for me to be a Ranger in SWG, there is no reason for me to continue to play SWG. Is it the only thing I like about the game? Certainly not. I've tried out different combat templates and so forth, and enjoyed them all, but Ranger is always at the core.
Is it only temporary until the revamp?
Possibly. If I do leave, it's going to be due to either A) the fact that the revamp is a ways down the road or B) even after the revamp, being a Ranger is no longer viable.
seaware
Mon Apr 04, 2005 9:47 am
#59
1. We now have the highest skill point requirement of ANY profession in the game save Jedi Knight, and have very little to show for it.
2. We are PVE Combat (hunting) profession yet the devs refuse to acknowledge us as such, give us the Health of a crafter and less weapon certs than a Combat Medic or Squad Leader.
3. Our dreams of biker scout were squashed when Scouts and Rangers were not cert'd for Scout Trooper armour. My Rangers are a reconnaissance unit, not front line soldiers.
4. We have one useful line, Tracking (for harvesting and tracking), one usable line, Wayfarer (as long as camo works vs NPCs), and the remaining two lines are useless.
5. There is no revamp in the pipeline, and no guarantee that there will be one. Only the mention that there may be a revamp at some point in the future.
Unless these issues are addressed before the CU goes live, I will be dropping Ranger as well. I love the profession and I have the most fun in the game as a Ranger, and I don't mind being a weak profession with little going for it (as we have been for so long now). But to be utterly ****** by the devs is just insulting.
2. We are PVE Combat (hunting) profession yet the devs refuse to acknowledge us as such, give us the Health of a crafter and less weapon certs than a Combat Medic or Squad Leader.
3. Our dreams of biker scout were squashed when Scouts and Rangers were not cert'd for Scout Trooper armour. My Rangers are a reconnaissance unit, not front line soldiers.
4. We have one useful line, Tracking (for harvesting and tracking), one usable line, Wayfarer (as long as camo works vs NPCs), and the remaining two lines are useless.
5. There is no revamp in the pipeline, and no guarantee that there will be one. Only the mention that there may be a revamp at some point in the future.
Unless these issues are addressed before the CU goes live, I will be dropping Ranger as well. I love the profession and I have the most fun in the game as a Ranger, and I don't mind being a weak profession with little going for it (as we have been for so long now). But to be utterly ****** by the devs is just insulting.
CorethLandwalker
Mon Apr 04, 2005 10:24 am
#60
I'm not exactly a frequent poster (a holdover from days of too-much-BBSing way back when); I've only hit MR recently, and still haven't hit the first set of vet rewards; but it's obviously time to stand up and be counted, so.....
In regards tothe CU and the information that has come out(or lack thereof),will you be dropping ranger?
Probably not; I thought about it, but see below. I may very well start running a different character on another server, though, if rangers get hosed too badly, and keep this one as a secondary character.
Why are/arn'tyou dropping it?
Getting mastery of the Ranger profession took considerable work, and I really don't want to let that go. Plus, this profession was always the big goal for this character. And hi-tech field bases gather curiosity seekers like nothing else-I've had more meaningful conversations camping outside of Coronet than I've ever had in any cantinas....
Is it only temporary until the revamp?
If said revamp actually occurs, and depending on just how it's executed, I'll certainly be there.
Iseult
Mon Apr 04, 2005 2:00 pm
#61
In regards to the CU and the information that has come out (or lack thereof), will you be dropping ranger?
Why are/arn't you dropping it?
Is it only temporary until the revamp?
Probably, but then again I would like to wait and see - if the revamp comes along and the 'revamped' skills don't justify the investment, then I might just keep the branches that I need.
Iseult
Master Ranger / Mediocre Rifleperson
Bloodfin
probably not - but I'm going to wait and see. I don't think that I've seen enough of how the CU will work to make this decision yet. What I might end up doing is to make my main a jedi and then make the alt account a master ranger. I have so much skill points sunk into the FS stuff, that if the CU goes live with the skillpoint costs unmodified, then I won't be able to master an elite combat prof. I don't think that ranger should necessarily have 3k of ham, but not being able to have the ham of another person (even a crafter) who has only mastered one elite combat branch is going to put me at a significant disadvantage. I suppose I could just hunt low-level stuff, but where's the excitement in that.
Why are/arn't you dropping it?
I actually am very fond of a lot of our abilities -- I like using my htfb to heal and my camo kits and my uber crawl speed. If I drop any of the trees, it will probably be the trapping tree though, as the scout stuff seems much more valuable.
Is it only temporary until the revamp?
Probably, but then again I would like to wait and see - if the revamp comes along and the 'revamped' skills don't justify the investment, then I might just keep the branches that I need.
Iseult
Master Ranger / Mediocre Rifleperson
Bloodfin
LastEE
Mon Apr 04, 2005 4:44 pm
#62
*Ok i hate to say this, but i need to make a poll heh. Yes i know, i know but honestly its important.
Apology accepted
*In regards to the CU and the information that has come out (or lack thereof), will you be dropping ranger?
Not enough information yet, but i'm probably too stubborn to drop it again.
*Why are/arn't you dropping it?
Too stubborn and doing it last time hurt too much, even though I knew it was a big waste of skillpoints. Also, I have 3 other accounts that will just get more attention and my ranger won't be as active as I want. If it ever gets to the point I never feel any fulfillment playing my ranger I would probably cancel all 4 accounts and spend my free time doing some RL scouting and rangering and fishing and boating... I can feel my wallet draining now from that hole in the water...
*Is it only temporary until the revamp?
I'd rather stay ranger and whine and bi*ch and moan than drop it.
Apology accepted
*In regards to the CU and the information that has come out (or lack thereof), will you be dropping ranger?
Not enough information yet, but i'm probably too stubborn to drop it again.
*Why are/arn't you dropping it?
Too stubborn and doing it last time hurt too much, even though I knew it was a big waste of skillpoints. Also, I have 3 other accounts that will just get more attention and my ranger won't be as active as I want. If it ever gets to the point I never feel any fulfillment playing my ranger I would probably cancel all 4 accounts and spend my free time doing some RL scouting and rangering and fishing and boating... I can feel my wallet draining now from that hole in the water...
*Is it only temporary until the revamp?
I'd rather stay ranger and whine and bi*ch and moan than drop it.
lunas
Mon Apr 04, 2005 5:13 pm
#63
1. no
2. i'm too stuborn to drop it. i love being a ranger. when i first bought this game i was reading about profs and said to myself ranger sounds pretty cool i think i'll be a ranger, and i have been one since then.
3. if we are so gimped that we can't even survive any knid of high end content no matter what the size group group we take then i will seriously reconsider where i spen my $30 a month ( i have 2 accts)
if the devs leave us as it looks like they are i have a fealing it will not only destroy the ranger prof swg will probbly go under. how many people do you think will stay around when they are paying 3mil for a suit of armor that takes 3 months to make , can't get any buffs at all, or buy any clothing because there aren't any resorces available to make any of this stuff.
2. i'm too stuborn to drop it. i love being a ranger. when i first bought this game i was reading about profs and said to myself ranger sounds pretty cool i think i'll be a ranger, and i have been one since then.
3. if we are so gimped that we can't even survive any knid of high end content no matter what the size group group we take then i will seriously reconsider where i spen my $30 a month ( i have 2 accts)
if the devs leave us as it looks like they are i have a fealing it will not only destroy the ranger prof swg will probbly go under. how many people do you think will stay around when they are paying 3mil for a suit of armor that takes 3 months to make , can't get any buffs at all, or buy any clothing because there aren't any resorces available to make any of this stuff.
Vorpaks
Mon Apr 04, 2005 5:46 pm
#64
After the CU I will likely be dropping Ranger on my main and going with a more combat-intensive template. If the developers post a focus idea thread like GreenMarine did for the Smugglers I will likely pick it right back up. I don't even need a revamp. I just need something that shows the developerss know and understand our concerns.
It seems like we were left out of the CU because they simply did not think of us, or were under a misconception and dismissed us as a non-com profession. If they keep those misconceptions going into a revamp I likely will not pick Ranger back up.
It seems like we were left out of the CU because they simply did not think of us, or were under a misconception and dismissed us as a non-com profession. If they keep those misconceptions going into a revamp I likely will not pick Ranger back up.
WildBil2Me
Mon Apr 04, 2005 5:48 pm
#65
Vorpaks wrote:
After the CU I will likely be dropping Ranger on my main and going with a more combat-intensive template. If the developers post a focus idea thread like GreenMarine did for the Smugglers I will likely pick it right back up. I don't even need a revamp. I just need something that shows the developerss know and understand our concerns.
It seems like we were left out of the CU because they simply did not think of us, or were under a misconception and dismissed us as a non-com profession. If they keep those misconceptions going into a revamp I likely will not pick Ranger back up.
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