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Message Edited by Wyeth-SB on 04-03-2005 12:32 PM

In regards tothe CU and the information that has come out(or lack thereof),will you be dropping ranger?

Likely - or at best cut down to 0/0/3/0.

Why are/arn'tyou dropping it?

The return on skill point investment just isn't worth it---and is even less so when I can master BH in the CU for fewer points. We currently get tracking and a bonus to harvesting---that's about it. Camo breaks more often than mask (even with BE clothes for +125...and it yields less XP), we get only one good trap, and camps are pointless. I've already been forced to cannibalize my currentranger because it isn't possible to participate in high-end content with my preferred combo of MR/MCH.

Is it only temporary until the revamp?

Possibly. I love being a ranger and it pained me to drop MR. The things I've wanted to do since SWG beta were ranger and CH (which I am also likely dropping). Bottom line is it's all a question of whether I can participate in any content and whether the skill point investment is worth it. If the ranger revamp makes it worth the investment, I'll probably come back.

Message Edited by Keatsnam on 04-03-2005 10:04 AM

In regards tothe CU and the information that has come out(or lack thereof),will you be dropping ranger?

I would stay ranger, but there is no way i would be a master ranger.

Why are/arn'tyou dropping it?

1: I am too stubborn to drop it completely, but dropping it would be inevitable if it stopped being fun.

2: I like the idea of being a ranger much more than i like being a ranger in SWG.

3:I like being able to track and be an effective hunter.

4: However, with rangers being gimped in their hunting ability with no innate combat protection, no offensive ability or defensive abilities, no creativity or useful traps beyond the ones in scout, camo being only slightly better than mask scent, camps are outdated and useless eye candy, we have no reason to be a ranger other than higher harvesting rates to service crafters.

5: If i want to be an elite hunter, it would serve me better to only dabble in scout, and no more.

6: It kills me to even think of this, but if the changes to ranger in the CU are permanent, I would eventually leave ranger completely because it would not be fun to be a ranger.

Is it only temporary until the revamp?

Depends on the revamp.

Not unless they drop the prof all together.



Because this is the only profession in the entire galazy that can hold my interest. I'm about 30k away from my MR tag and when I get it, they'll have to pry it off my cold dead head before I give it up. Unless of course, they force it completely out of the game. In which case, as goes Ranger, so go I.



After the "supposed" revamp is another story.

First of all, thanks Owen & JB for keeping the Rangers and Scouts in the fight. I would like to know however if you think the devs are even paying attention? Is any of the noise we're making working or do you think it will have any effect at all?


Plunk

Message Edited by FourthNail on 04-03-2005 02:25 PM

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Owen-Lars wrote:

In regards tothe CU and the information that has come out(or lack thereof),will you be dropping ranger?

Nope. Keeping Ranger as long as there is a Ranger Profession to keep. With its bugs and it's shortcomings and all, it is still the funnest time I've had in SWG. < Long live the GRM!! >

Why are/arn'tyou dropping it?

Ranger has the potential to be one of the most fun and challengingadventurers in the game. Reading all the Revamp docs on the Ranger forums only confirms that fact.

Is it only temporary until the revamp?

Look forward to the Ranger Revamp and hope it will compensate for any shortcomings caused rangers by the CU.

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Bottom Line: I have to agree with Plunk: I'm Ranger until there is no Ranger and then I'm gone from SWG. That was the attraction of SWG when I first started: I could play in the Star Wars Universe and be allowed to play the way I like to play. Taking Ranger away severly limits the things that I like to do... ergo.. I'll move on.

Billee Clark - Scout / Marksman ( on the way to Master Ranger / Pistoleer? if SP's allow) <> TC5

Thanks Owen, for keeping your finger on the pulse of the Ranger Profession

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Owen-Lars wrote:

Ok i hate to say this, but i need to make a poll heh. Yes i know, i know but honestly its important. I need to show the devs exactly how much negative impact the CU is going to have on ranger and why ranger needs their revamp asap.

Its going to be part of my report that im writing atm explaining why so many of us are pissed, upset that we didnt get any attention and how concerned we are about what is geing to happen to ranger between the end of the CU up until the ranger revamp hits.

So i put it to you:

In regards tothe CU and the information that has come out(or lack thereof),will you be dropping ranger?

No.

Why are/arn'tyou dropping it?

I'm too stubborn to give up something i worked so hard for. Though i will Raise you know what about it depending on the sp reductionsand or ham bonuses.

Is it only temporary until the revamp?

uhh......... guess i can't answer this one lol

Please answer truthfully about your current plans.

cheers, owen

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1. In regards to the CU and the information that has come out (or lack thereof), will you be dropping ranger?
- Yes, I probably will. Pending a complete over-haul and making Rangers relevant.

2. Why are/aren't you dropping it?
- Because of the lack of skills vs. the amount of skill point needed (to acquire, uhm, no skills...). Also because it seems that the skills I do use are easily accessible as a MasterScout (except for camo, which I don't use because it lasts about as long as 2-3 maskscents and uses up materials to do so).

3. Is it only temporary until the revamp?
- I'll tell you the honest truth... I've been patient, and I've been advocating patience all together. But for the last 6 months, I've been playing this game a) first, to master Ranger, and b) second, to eventually have access to my Jedi. I feel that 6 months worth of playing should be rewarded (and I don't mean with a mini C-3PO or R2-D2), and the CU will hurt vets while infusing the game with fun for noobs. In the end, I feel a little bit burned out and the thought of working even longer AND harder to be a Jedi, and coupling that with the fact that my Ranger will now be at an even BIGGER disadvantage (skill points vs. skill wise) than it was before... and it's making me want to quit SWG altogether.

I don't feel like burning out for a game. I play video games as an outlet to my RL, as a way of relaxing and having fun. If I had known that online games make people hate and get angry at each other, I wouldn't signed up in the first place. As I understand that this is a product like any other, I may opt for quitting. I get the feeling that the CU will attract as many people as it will alienate (I believe it was designed to do so, to get new blood and new players, thus reducing the amount of friction between us and the DEVS), and this makes me feel a little bit pissed. I feel like they're purposefully voiding pretty much everything vets have worked for in exchange for a fresh fleet of new players. That way they don't have to deal with unhappy costumers for another 6-8 months...

Or maybe I'm just dead tired and feel a little bit bitter. Who knows.

1. I guess technically I'm not dropping it.

2. I've cancelled 4 accounts, my Ranger and Smuggler characters have probably seen the most neglect, which is a shame since I love both professions. But they just aren't as fun as they used to be and I use my Ranger mostly to supply my doctor. My Ranger is tied to my Jedi account, which has about 3 weeks left before it goes into stasis. Heck, I could easily outharvest my Ranger character with my Jedi with a little bit of scout. Maybe that's because Ranger isn't a combat profession.

3. What revamp?

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Owen-Lars wrote:

In regards tothe CU and the information that has come out(or lack thereof),will you be dropping ranger? Probably...although I'm a stubborn Bothan bastage. So we'll see.

Why are/arn'tyou dropping it? Mostly because of the health issue. I really don't feel like getting gimped hardcore. I'm also going Jedi, and Ranger probably isn't the best way to go for that.

Is it only temporary until the revamp? Well, that depends. From some of the stuff that other profession are getting, I'm finding it hard to see how we'll be changed. A lot of ideas from this forum seem to be going into other professions so that scares me.

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