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The changes look very cool. Very different.

I think, however, that before they go live Paks will be fading into the wilderness one last time.

WEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!

Am I the only who thinks this is a stupid move? That this has nothing to do with Ranger? That this is the true smuggler revamp? I am so angry right now I cant even think.

Plus side - Ranger has a meaning in life

Down sides - What happened to outdoorsman? What happened to wilderness expert? What happened to Ranger? You want the ability to steal? You want the ability to hide in cities? You want player traps? These are BH things.

We've been shafted again for the last time. This is the death of Ranger as it was from the first day of game. I think im most disapointed because this is what i was waiting for to come back in game. And here I sit shaking my head thinking WTH.

Just go sit back and pretend this is a revamp and not some new profession masquerading as Ranger.

Everyone has different ideas on what a ranger should be, what a ranger is and what we would like ranger to be. Thats why we have these monthly discussions about it. To you this isnt Ranger, to me it is, to someone else this may be slightly what ranger is about.

Everyone has differing opinions on whether or not this is how they viewed rangers.

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Owen-Lars wrote:

Feck yes!

2 years and it was oh so worth the wait

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HOLY FECK (for our american mods, that isnt what you think it is).

Why did I ever go become a jedi?

One thing though, wheres my bow, /cry!

Really this is what we wanted? We've had dozens and dozens of stickies over the last two years. Check out the ideas thread to see them. Where do you see this rogue profession in there?

Owen Im happy for the players. This will be a FOTM. This will be a very heavily played profession it looks like. But to see two years worth of work gone up in smoke this is disheartning. They gave away our invisability to Rifleman in the CURB. Remember they told us it couldnt be done. They gave the smuggler stealing to us again after telling them it couldnt be done.

Sure seems like Han Solo would have been happier as a Ranger in SWG and not as a Smuggler. Sugar coat this all you like. And your right some of us have different opinions of what Ranger should be. But IM remembering all the work we as a community have done to see it all blown away so carelessly

I'm going to repost this here as I think it's semi relevant:

Hmm, let's see:
Stealth
Modular Traps
Stealth Counters

All of these are ideas that have been discussed in our community. Yes, there are a lot of changes to the profession. Yes, it sounds like it won't be exactly the same profession anymore. But it still sounds like fun. And it sounds useful. It's not exactly what everyone wants but it does sound like a better profession that what we have, even if we have to lose a subset of our skills. And it sounds like a Master Scout/Master Ranger will keep most of that subset. From my understanding, a Master Scout/Master Ranger will only lose foraging and /areatrack and will gain better traps, better stealth, and some sort of use in the GCW. I'd call that a success, even if it is not everything we could have hoped for.

I know where you comming from and year it does suck. But the community has always been split on this and thats been obvious. Like Calc stated on many occassions, the devs will always do what they want no matter what we do, we can just hope to influence that.

Now yeah some stuff has been made redundant, yet some has just been accomplished depending on which side of the fence you sit.

This isnt my ideal revamp but it is along the lines of how i think ranger should be placed in the game. We will have to see how it plays out but yeah i does suck that so much of our wilderness survival went out the window.

We lost tracking. We might have lost camps, depending on if they respond about those.

We can still harvest, we have a role in the GCW that is stealth related as the proposals in the past have been. We have modular traps that can hit humanoids and animals, and some of them actually do something new. Yes the theft steps on the toes of the smugglers, but it's still in development. Not everyone supports the theft idea and if I and a lot of others have it their way, the smugglers will get it. Other than the theft though, it's a paramilitary option that has been discussed over and over again. This way our combat role doesn't step on anyone else's preexisting toes, even if smuggler and bh are potentially capable of this role they've outlined, we've been designated as the alternative to them.

It looks interesting, but until everything is final and testing is even thought about, there will be plenty of feedback on what we want and don't.

Im still unsure about the whole lost tracking point. To me it seems we lost areatrack and go proper tracking instead where we are able to track someone instead of just scan the horizon. It will be interesting to see how this developes, i just hope we can track down creatures too on top of people.