Ranger Archive

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Calculus_Entropy wrote:

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Fodder650 wrote:

Now Calc ask how many of us are getting JTL to avoid the starport timers? Thats my number 1 reason

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I am not totally convinced that flying yourself will be much quicker than shuttling...but, then, who knows?

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well even if it isn't faster, at least it'll be more fun than waiting in a starport

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Seraph00X wrote:

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Calculus_Entropy wrote:

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Fodder650 wrote:

Now Calc ask how many of us are getting JTL to avoid the starport timers? Thats my number 1 reason

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I am not totally convinced that flying yourself will be much quicker than shuttling...but, then, who knows?

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well even if it isn't faster, at least it'll be more fun than waiting in a starport

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It certainly couldn't be worse than waiting in a starport.

If you guys want a sneak peak at what I think JTL will be like, pick up the game FreeLancer. If I can find my screenshots from that game I will post them. I LOVED that game.

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Fred_Skinner wrote:

[EDIT POSTSCRIPT: anyone heard of Kali?]

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Sure thing, I used to play descent over kali. Ahh those were the days, younger (not young hehe) and my reflexes still good enough to be able to compete with the kids in games like this .

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DND_Cas wrote:

True.

Thats not the main problem tho. The problem has been that the developers have been dangling the carrot of the almight combat balence(tm) in front of the playerbase since the end of 2003.

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Well, the promise of space combat was around since before this game was even released.

This is similar to the complaining about the two jedi publishes. Everyone complains that it's taking time away from the other professions, yet it seems that EVERYONE wanted the hologrind to end.. and that's the purpose of revamping it.

Anyway, I'm looking forward to JTL and it will keep me PLENTY busy until a ranger revamp. As for the combat balance pushback, I now have more time to enjoy being a master rifleman while it's still powerful.

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frightwig wrote:

Well, the promise of space combat was around since before this game was even released.

This is similar to the complaining about the two jedi publishes. Everyone complains that it's taking time away from the other professions, yet it seems that EVERYONE wanted the hologrind to end.. and that's the purpose of revamping it.

Anyway, I'm looking forward to JTL and it will keep me PLENTY busy until a ranger revamp. As for the combat balance pushback, I now have more time to enjoy being a master rifleman while it's still powerful.

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Jedi are an intergral part of the ground game and the hologrind was a problem for the ground game and effected every single profession out there. Jtl willnot, and cannot,have that much of an effect becuase it is an optional add on.

The two are not comparable.

I am very excited about JTL but unlike Fred, I believe we all have good cause for complaining. I'm not saying we should go storm SOE offices but they definately need to know how upset people are about this delay. I think it's great that they want to make sure JTL is as good as it can get before they release it, but I don't think it should come at the cost of the current game. They should either hire more developers or take another look at how their teams are allocated. We have been patient long enough. For as much money as they are taking in, it is unexcusable for them to keep delaying promised changes, especially since every response to any question has been that it will be fixed in the the combat rebalance. SOE, get more people and get it done. There is already about 60 pages of complaints about this and it's going to get worse.

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frightwig wrote:


This is similar to the complaining about the two jedi publishes. Everyone complains that it's taking time away from the other professions, yet it seems that EVERYONE wanted the hologrind to end.. and that's the purpose of revamping it.

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Whenever I played FreeLancer I always thought "wouldn't it be cool if, instead of just standing inside the door of the cantina and clicking on people to converse and get missions we could actually run around the city?" I didn't even think far enough ahead to imagine the planets as a place where you could interact with other players as well (in FreeLancer the planets and space stations were instanced per player, but space was multiplayer). Then SWG came out and it was like everything I imagined for FreeLancer planets... without space. I am really, REALLY excited about seeing the two meet.

Sadly there was not room enough on my hard drive for two humongous games and all my work programs (Frame, AutoCAD, Photoshop, Illustrator... damn memory hogs). I may have to invest in some hot-swappable drives lol. Now I really want to play FreeLancer again. The graphics on that game were(are) totally amazing. Easily a match for SWG. I spent a lot of time just wandering around exploring and taking screenshots of amazing spacescapes. I never even finished the single-player version... as soon as I could explore I was out of there. Hmmmm... kinda like being a Ranger in SWG.

FreeLancer had several things I hope they eventually include in JTL:

- You could loot (NPC) ships you killed.

- You could mine asteroid fields by blowing up the rocks and pulling in the metals and ores.

- You had faction with various local enforcement authorities and pirate factions (worked just like SWG factions)

- You could locate the secret pirate bases and take missions there (smuggling drugs) if your faction was good enough. Don't get caught with that stuff though. The authorities did NOT like it.

- Some systems were dangerous to explore, with random mine fields or radioactive stars that would damage you over time.

- You could find derelict ships and loot them. As long as you didn't run foul of whatever had killed them.

- There were jump points and shipping lanes that enabled you to travel from system to system faster. (This could be modified to fit SW I think)

What else?
Ah the ships! Shields, Bombs, Missles, Blasters were all fully customizable. In fact they were VERY much like the modular camp idea where each kind of ship had certain types of slots that took certain types of weapons. So you couldnt mount a Class 4 blaster on a shuttle, you needed a heavy fighter ect. And the guns did different types of damage.

This is really an awesome game. If you are jonesing for JTL and maybe want to take a break from SWG I really REALLY reccomend trying it, if it is still around.

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Fodder650 wrote:

Calc,

I was talking to my wife about it. And I was thinking the same thing about speed. But I thought the devs, and i have been wrong many many times today, said that you would have the option of launching into space or going directly to your target. So that your not a target always.

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Vorpaks wrote:
Whenever I played FreeLancer I always thought "wouldn't it be cool if, instead of just standing inside the door of the cantina and clicking on people to converse and get missions we could actually run around the city?" I didn't even think far enough ahead to imagine the planets as a place where you could interact with other players as well (in FreeLancer the planets and space stations were instanced per player, but space was multiplayer).

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