Ranger Archive

Guys,

I like to flame as much as the next guy, but whoa - let's keep it civil.

These ARE the Ranger boards after all. Unless someone sneaked in here and spraypainted L33T J3DI!!I! on the title of this board while I was sleeping.

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Lol, i know this but it gets rather annoying with people from other classes coming in here telling us to be happy with skinning animals and making camps.

I'm not a Ranger, but I was thinking of picking up the profession to try it out. I think alot of the ideas I've heard so far are really good. In my opinion, at high level, Ranger skills should be able to be used in PvP and on CH Pets.

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Dantana wrote:

If your desire s to be a Ranger, you can forget PVP. You will be no challenge to other players and I'm telling you this by experience. Best weapon, best armor (or not), you will get your butt kicked in PVP. Despute me if you wish but following the Ranger ways is only good for PVE. You will be the best against creatures, most of the time. Crafters will love you for the resources and you will have money but don't duel anyone!

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So pick upa combat class to go with Ranger. I'm a Ranger/Pistoleer and it's a very nice combination

Not to mention the fact that if we do not get the ability to use our skills in the GCW alot of rangers will quit, who then will provide the resources crafters need? Bounty hunters? Creature handlers? Squad leaders?

JB - Preach it brother. Too many people confuse A) being a good player, B) having good judgment, and C) using smart tactics with an entire profession sucking.

Keito - If you want to be an Antarian Ranger, pick up Rifleman I think the most accurate representation of a RL Special Forces Officer would be Master Scout with some Ranger skills, and Master Rifleman withsome carbineer. Since the carbine is closer to an M16A2 than a T21, in versatility and function, I think it makes sense. The T21 is more like the M24 - it's a slow, but powerful, sniping weapon.

To the guy saying CH is good in pvp - you must be joking The devs have made it clear they don't want CH to be considered a combat profession, and they've succeeded in making it suck in pvp.Pets are big targets, easy to drop, and always die in a big fight once you, the owner, have been waxed - which is what any intelligent opponent will do just as soon as he /examines that huge Rancor or Graul of yours and finds out who owns it. You die, then your pet aimlessly wanders about and dies shortly therafter, usually by Commando fire ('fire' often literally).

The CH/Ranger combo IS 100% pve ownage... but Ranger or CH alone can be combined with other more effective combatprofessions for your pvp'ing needs The game was designed so that you couldn't be uber at both pvp and pve - so mix and match, depending on your personal preferences ~J

I'll stay a pistoleer thanks.

Rangers cannot PvP.

True ! Rangers are not a Combat Class. They are a Beast Hunter, Beast Killing, Beast Trapping, Explorer and last but not least Pretty Camp class.

Given that, Rangers should be able to PvP as well as whatever OTHER Combat class skills they have.

But the Ranger class is not geared to PvP. Thats why I chose it. I chose it to hunt animals.

Also Rangers SHOULD be able to particpate in the GCW if they so desire by using their other class skills and the following should be added:

1. Spying hidden on enemy formations out tin the wild. Traveling hidden from these forces. Leading your friendly forces to through the wild hidden and safe.

2. Camps that really do things to help in GCW.

3. Rangers should be the BEST at killing the enemies creature pets.

With these additions Rangers would be needed for the GCW and yet keep them within their orignal non Rambo, Non Combat class origins.

Stop trying to force us to like your idea of how a ranger should be ok? If we get these extra capabilities it won't affect you at all! If you don't want to kill people, don't! If you do not want to use your ranger skills in the GCW don't! But myself and alot of others who far outnumber those who do not want to do want this capability.

Show me anywhere in print, written by sony that rangers in their conception shouldn't have any pvp ability. Your motives for posting this crap are deeply suspect, almost like you are afraid that it's going to change your game or force you into PVP, it will not! SO PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD STOP IT!

Thanks JB, that's what I was looking for. The time I do have is spent climbing the ladders. I spent alot of time doing the marksman skills so I could be an ungodly BH, then found out that's what everyone else was doing so I thought Ranger would be something no one was interested in. Thats where Marksman came from and have already decided to drop some of those skills. So, I wasn't lazy, I worked hard to get there,now I'm changing slowly as needed. Your spill was a good one and has given me good advice with a flame attitude but I'll accept that in exchange. I have seen you in game, it is a small galaxy. so, if you have anymore informativetidbits that might help I'd be interested in hearing it , it is why I came here to begin with. Thanks again my friend, see ya around the campfire.

Every army in every war ever fought has meany componets, some are great at combat. Rangers in the traditional sence, were non combatants. Well more like low combatants, they scouted ahead, probed weaknesses, and generally hurrassed the enemy. Prefering to stay scilent and hidden. Open ccombat was something left to the main body of that army.

As a ranger, for PvP, I would like to see the abaliy sneek up on the enemy and either report their location with out being seen, or perhaps toss a few traps at em and disapear into the night. That to me would be great fun and vary fitting a renger. But as I and all other declaired rangers will still show up as a friggen red dot, and be able to use almost none of our hard earned skills, I will have to avoid PvP for now.

Keito said:

Show me anywhere in print, written by sony that rangers in their conception shouldn't have any pvp ability. Your motives for posting this crap are deeply suspect, almost like you are afraid that it's going to change your game or force you into PVP, it will not! SO PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD STOP IT!

I respond ROFL. Unarmed again Keito

In PvP your Ranger skills are secondary.

In PvE your Ranger skills are primary.

Ways to use PvP Ranger:

Track down enemies and their pets.

Burst Run efficiency allows you to run with far less HAM costs.

Crawl speed gives you max rifle-crawl speed without having Rifle.

I find conceal / maskscent buggy, but if you don't, you can lay among red mobs and wait to ambush enemy. Or you can run through them while others must go around.

Your camps are good for your team. Also your camps have regen mod in case you're solo and wounded. If you are bleeding after a fight, drop camp and sit.

Creature-to-hit bonus applies to pets.

Your PvE skills can help you fight pets. I don't know how many people I've seen getting chewed on by Cowardly Gurrecks when all it takes to get them off you is one warning shot.

Master Ranger gives +10 melee and +10 ranged defense.

Rescue works on player characters. If your friend is hurt and getting pounded on, you can /rescue him and your enemies will target you.

Besides all this, I found +45 speed and +45 accuracy to be a better in PvP. But that doesn't discount the above bonuses Ranger brings to PvP.

-- YP