Ranger Archive
Thread: Our Next Question for TH
Enoshima
Fri Jun 11, 2004 11:23 am
#14
I have a question that I would like to ask him, but I would probably get banned for asking it.
Calculus_Entropy
Fri Jun 11, 2004 1:20 pm
#16
EV500 wrote:
Who one stared me? put up your dukes!
Hehehe..I turned off the rating system. I think that is the only way to browse the forums. That way I can decide for myself if a post is good or bad, I don't need to punk kid with and itchy clicker finger to tell me what is a good and what is a bad post.
Seiryuu
Fri Jun 11, 2004 5:06 pm
#17
How about this for a question:
Because the combat rebalance will likely see a greatly reduced ability to take down creatures, our ability to harvest resources is going to be signficantly reduced as well. Taking into account that prices for animal resources are very high because of the difficulty to supply everyone, are there plans in place to alter our harvest rates to prevent the potentially devastating change in the economy?
(Feel free to reword it to be more clear.)
Because the combat rebalance will likely see a greatly reduced ability to take down creatures, our ability to harvest resources is going to be signficantly reduced as well. Taking into account that prices for animal resources are very high because of the difficulty to supply everyone, are there plans in place to alter our harvest rates to prevent the potentially devastating change in the economy?
(Feel free to reword it to be more clear.)
Squidwalker
Fri Jun 11, 2004 5:53 pm
#18
Frankly we are in a similar boat that Pistoleer is in for these questions. I think this 19 answers thing was very badly timed, for players, right before so many big changes. With pistoleer, we are not sure what to ask, since we have no idea what direction they want pistoleer to be, or it will work after the CB. So we don't know what to ask, that won't give us the "wait for the CB.." crap.
Rangers is also in a situation like that. We don't know what the devs want us to be, or what direction they have in mind for ranger. We don't know what the CB will bring for us in terms of combat and being a helping hand in combat groups. So what do we ask that A) wont get us the "wait for CB" and B) they actually have answer to.
Here are some of my suggestions:
1) When we will ranger get a revamp? Not a "after this this this this" answer like Calc said. We know what is on the calendar currently eith jedi, CB, smuggler and SL. But after that, tell us exactly when you are "planning" on revamping us? Because we do need one.
2) What is the possibility of getting some minor fixes and or bonuses BEFORE our revamp? I bring up things like the harvesting bonus we want. Frankly I don't think fixing camps repel is worth the time, since no one uses camps anymore anyway.
3) What "exactly" is conceal "supposed" to do? And how do you the devs "want" it to work?
Nemo0
Fri Jun 11, 2004 6:22 pm
#19
I think we need to ask him point blank what is going on with our profession. We are getting so many different views that they owe us an answer. Something like:
In the last Ranger question, you mentioned that you liked the Ranger's Outdoorsman Proposal and pushed it whenever you could. Shortly after that, we received word from the Fan Fest that Rangers were still seen as a creature only profession (the same response that prompted the Outdoorsman Proposal in the first place). This came from the Dev supposedly responsible for Ranger and during the forum meant to represent Ranger issues (thisDev lateradmitted to not having seen the proposal). These two views contradict each other. What is the current Dev position on Ranger and why did the Dev responsible for answering Rangerquestions at the Fan Fest not even know about our challenge to the creature centric view?
Yes, it's a mean question. But we deserve an answer to it.
Edit: spelling error
Message Edited by Nemo0 on 06-12-2004 02:23 AM
DarthDominus
Fri Jun 11, 2004 6:42 pm
#20
Nemo0 wrote:
I think we need to ask him point blank what is going on with our profession. We are getting so many different views that they owe us an answer. Something like:
In the last Ranger question, you mentioned that you liked the Ranger's Outdoorsman Proposal and pushed it whenever you could. Shortly after that, we received word from the Fan Fest that Rangers were still seen as a creature only profession (the same response that prompted the Outdoorsman Proposal in the first place). This came from the Dev supposedly responsible for Ranger and during the forum meant to represent Ranger issues (thisDev lateradmitted to not having seen the proposal). These two views contradict each other. What is the current Dev position on Ranger and why did the Dev responsible for answering Rangerquestions at the Fan Fest not even know about our challenge to the creature centric view?
Yes, it's a mean question. But we deserve an answer to it.
Edit: spelling error
Message Edited by Nemo0 on 06-12-2004 02:23 AM
I'm definitely with Nemo on this. I get the feeling that A... Rangers are being phased out by attrition and apathy, or B... they just don't care and figure we'll run around in circles with "busy work" until the cows come home. I just want to know where we stand. The combat balance will surely occur before we see any love for our profession ...but how will we be changed? This alone is worth knowing ...so we can direct our efforts in concurance with the changes made by the combat and GCW revamps.
tim1756
Fri Jun 11, 2004 7:03 pm
#21
Nemo0 wrote:
I think we need to ask him point blank what is going on with our profession. We are getting so many different views that they owe us an answer. Something like:
In the last Ranger question, you mentioned that you liked the Ranger's Outdoorsman Proposal and pushed it whenever you could. Shortly after that, we received word from the Fan Fest that Rangers were still seen as a creature only profession (the same response that prompted the Outdoorsman Proposal in the first place). This came from the Dev supposedly responsible for Ranger and during the forum meant to represent Ranger issues (thisDev lateradmitted to not having seen the proposal). These two views contradict each other. What is the current Dev position on Ranger and why did the Dev responsible for answering Rangerquestions at the Fan Fest not even know about our challenge to the creature centric view?
Yes, it's a mean question. But we deserve an answer to it.
Edit: spelling error
Message Edited by Nemo0 on 06-12-2004 02:23 AM
As much as I want this question answered I think I would prefer hearing when our revamp is planned for. Obviously after JTL but how soon. At the same time the space bugs are being worked out? Right after? Or are we farther down the line? If we don't agree to ask about our revamp then let's ask NemoO's question.
Fred_Skinner
Fri Jun 11, 2004 7:49 pm
#22
Fderrr wrote:
My Questions.
How does conceal work?
What Does it Work against (Creatures, NPCs or both)?
What causes it to break?
simple and precise.
I would add, "Have you read Fred's stealth proposal?"
buzzlo
Fri Jun 11, 2004 8:34 pm
#23
Let not our frustration get the best of us. Keep patient. But I must say CALC!! If someone would just throw us a bone once a month. State of this and that!! Channel all this energy in the right direction. Im a manager of 400 people and let me tell you LACK of FEEDBACK is a KILLER!!!!
My Proposal:
DEVS get on the ball and squelch the negative things with a quick POST on the FORUMS!!
QUIT treating us like mushrooms. If we knew exactly which way the DEV's were pushing to go we would jump onboard the train and help make smart decisions.
Utilize all of these FREE BETA TESTERS on these forums.....no one knows better than all of us that have been a MASTER RANGER for xxx days/years.
We are agreat resource going to waste. Almost every profession feels frustration because the DEVS arent giving us any direction or updates. Unsatisfactory in my opinion....it would take 15 minutes out of thier week to pump out a FORUM post profession specific.
poser00002
Fri Jun 11, 2004 10:18 pm
#24
Calculus_entropy here is a question to ask the devs....
Why do they care more about jedi then any of the other 200,000 other users that dont care to be jedi?
They are going to spend the next 2 major pub's on jedi when the other 30 fields are bugged and have no point. Rnagers are so mest up they really have no point in the game. Pistolers 10-12 skills dont work, cm can toss 100 meters with no look to get nerfed under range of a ranger. There is so much more that i could go in to with fields but u get the point. Every board has so many ideas for there fields that the devs say they will look at and turn down as it is not what they want to do with the fields but they dont do anything to the fields to make them better or work for that matter. At this rate the game is going to die as the year of the game being out is comming up and i'm sure that 50-100,000 users accounts are going to end and by the time jtl comes out 50,000 more are going to go to play wow and eq and that will be a major drain on the game. Just more and more i see people getting pissed that the devs dont care about us fans that have been here since day one with we are going to fix the bugs and working on fields to make them better. But now they care mroe about jedi then anything eles.
Fderrr
Sat Jun 12, 2004 12:40 am
#25
My Questions.
How does conceal work?
What Does it Work against (Creatures, NPCs or both)?
What causes it to break?
simple and precise.
Kiryoku
Sat Jun 12, 2004 12:49 am
#26
it seems well establishedthat GreenMarine was once the dev in charge of ranger, but they moved him to JTL... since then, he has had no tie tothe ranger profession- so he hasn't seen anything we've come up withafter he got moved... my impression of things is that he is the only dev to ever consider ranger changes, other than the overall concern of the combat balance... so odds are he has no idea what the live team has planned for ranger, and they have no idea what he had planned...
because we're at the mercy of two different heads with two different plans, i'm not sure what kind of question we can ask that will get an actual answer... questions of "when?" will invariably be "the combat balance or after the 4 scheduled revamps and JTL"... questions about the devs' opinions on matters are answered incompletely because there is no one devoted torangers at the moment... and wishes/demands only bypass the correspondant system and aren't really questions...
sorry to be completely non-constructive... there are benefits to all these kinds of questions too, but we'll have to prepare ourselves to glean the smallest bit of good out of whatever answer we get...
sorry... i'll be back in a bit, and i'll be the optimist again...